Pope Francis’ latest grenade – UPDATED October 1, 2013Posted by tantamergo in abdication of duty, Basics, catachesis, disaster, Ecumenism, episcopate, error, foolishness, General Catholic, Papa, sadness, scandals, secularism, self-serving, Society, the return.
Wow…….as one of the commenters said, this Pope, he is moving fast. He wants to apparently do quite a bit in whatever time he has.
Pope Francis has given yet another interview, this time with Italian editor and militant atheist Eugenio Scalfari. This is an interview the Pope sought out and initiated. It’s another rather long, wordy interview. Rorate has the complete text in English. We hadn’t even gotten over the previous interview, before this one drops on us. I will give some of the more………exciting………excerpts. I shall endeavor to keep my comments to a minimum, but I may fail:
Pope Francis told me: “The most serious of the evils that afflict the world these days are youth unemployment and the loneliness of the old. The old need care and companionship; the young need work and hope but have neither one nor the other, and the problem is they don’t even look for them any more. They have been crushed by the present. You tell me: can you live crashed under the weight of the present? Without a memory of the past and without the desire to look ahead to the future by building something, a future, a family? Can you go on like this? This, to me, is the most urgent problem that the Church is facing” [So, not abortion. Not plummeting birth rates and attendant economic collapse. Not worldwide apostasly. Youth unemployment and the loneliness of the old. Is he serious? Or is Pope Francis just incredibly provincial?]
[The interviewer says..........]My friends think it is you want to convert me.
Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost, teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you.
Our Lord, 33 AD.
“Proselytism is solemn nonsense, it makes no sense. We need to get to know each other, listen to each other and improve our knowledge of the world around us. Sometimes after a meeting I want to arrange another one because new ideas are born and I discover new needs. This is important: to get to know people, listen, expand the circle of ideas. The world is crisscrossed by roads that come closer together and move apart, but the important thing is that they lead towards the Good.”
Pope Francis, 2013 AD.
UPDATE: I missed the following excerpt. “Make a mess,” he said:
“We must be a leaven of life and of love,” Francis said, “and the leaven is infinitely smaller than the mass of fruit, of flowers and trees that grow thanks to it…. [O]ur objective isn’t proselytism but listening to [people's] needs, desires, disappointments, desperations and hopes. We must restore hope to the young, aid the old, open ourselves to the future, spread love. [We must be] the poor among the poor. We must include the excluded and preach peace. Vatican II, inspired by Pope John and Paul VI, decided to look to the future with a modern spirit and to open [the church] to modern culture. The Council fathers knew that
opening to modern culture meant religious ecumenism and dialogue with non believers. After then very little was done in that direction. I have the humility and ambition to want to do it.” [First of all........I have not known too many humble people who go around reminding others how humble they are all the time. Secondly, claiming "very little" was done regarding implementing novel concepts on ecumenism and dialogue sends cold shivers down my spine. Good grief, what was not done? We have had popes kissing Korans, sending greetings to every pagan and muslim and Jewish holiday you can imagine, we have whole conferences and dicasteries and groups of cardinals dedicated to nothing BUT ecumenism and "dialogue," we have regular meetings in posh resorts to spend more time fruitlessly trying to square the corner on subjects like Anglican ordination of women and Catholic understanding such is impossible, we have spent nearly 50 years beating our breasts crying "mea culpa" for all the "wrongs" and failings of the Church over 2000 years, we had not one, not two, but THREE scandalous, indifferentist confabs in Assisi with every pagan religion under the sun present........and little has been done? If that's the case, what will be left standing when this humble, ambitious Pope gets done dialoguing?]