Pope Francis gives stirring reflection on the need for unity with the Church September 16, 2014Posted by Tantumblogo in Basics, episcopate, General Catholic, Glory, Grace, Our Lady, Papa, sanctity, Spiritual Warfare, the return.
One could even say it is beautiful, in parts. It is occasional statements like this that make me uncertain as to what Pope Francis really believes, how he rationalizes relatively strong statements like this with some others that seem to cause such confusion.
But enough with my impressions, a commenter left a link to another site covering this same info yesterday, and I did not have time to read it. I hope L understands that my return comment to her was general and not in reference to this particular exhortation from the Pope:
Without the Church, which is our mother, we can not go on. This was confirmed by Pope Francis in his sermon for the feast of the Dolors of Mary at Holy Mass in the chapel of the Vatican guest house “Domus Sanctae Marthae.”
After the liturgy of the Exultation of the Cross, we are shown in the present day, a humble and gentle mother. In the Letter to the Hebrews (Heb 5:7 to 9), the apostle Paul emphasizes three powerful words: “Jesus taught, he obeyed and he suffered” (“Though he was a Son, he learned obedience through suffering”; V. 6). The Pope explains this is the contrary to what happened with the progenitor, Adam. He did not want to learn the Commandments of the Lord, nor did he want to suffer or obey. Though he was God, Jesus offered Himself on the other hand, He humbled Himself by becoming the servant: “This is the glory of the cross of Jesus”. [And I like this thought very much, but is it undermined by certain statements to other religions that reject both Christ as God and Mary as Mother of God?]
“Jesus came into the world,” said Francis, “to learn to be human, to be human, to go with the people. He came into the world, to obey, and he obeyed. But he has learned this obedience through suffering. [OK, since I know nits will be picked, I may as well jump the gun. I think this statement can be true in a sense, but Christ, being God, is the perfect embodiment of all virtue, and was just as omniscient as God the Father, being always part of the Trinity even while man, and so He knew obedience perfectly before enduring any suffering. But He did give us the example of obedience through suffering. The translation on Eponymous Flower could be spotty.] Adam has left from paradise with a promise, the promise that has been going on over the many centuries. Today, with this obedience, this self-destruction, with this self-humiliation of Jesus, that promise is to hope. And the people of God go ahead with this certain hope. The Mother, ‘the New Eve,’ as Paul called her, would share this way with her Son: she learned, suffered and obeyed. And she became a mother.”
The Gospel (Jn 19:25 – 27) shows us Mary at the foot of the Cross. Jesus says to John: “Behold your mother” (verse 27). Thus Mary would be “anointed as the mother:”
“And this is our hope. We are not orphans, we have mothers: Mother Mary. But the Church is the mother, and the Church is anointed as mother and she strikes out on the same way as Mary and Jesus, the way of obedience, the way of suffering, and if it continues that attitude to keep learning the way of the Lord. These two women – Mary and the Church – bring forward in hope, which is Christ, they give us Christ, they bear witness to Christ in us. Without Mary, there would have been no Jesus Christ. . “Without the Church, we can not precede.” [And I think that is true. But what is the understanding of the "Church?" Is it the Church of Rome, of the Apostles and the constant line of bishops since and formal communion with Her, or does it exist invisibly and include even people who reject and attack Her? How can we be full "brothers" with protestants who spit on the Blessed Mother? This is where I get confused, not about what I believe, but about what Francis believes. I find it very difficult to reconcile a strong Marian ecclesiology with such a fervent embrace of protestants. Being a former protestant, I well know the degree to which most protestants despise their caricatured understanding of Marian theology, and how much their erroneous understanding of the Blessed Mother distorts their whole approach to Christianity.]
There is more at the link. The lede at Eponymous Flower said, in quotes: “Pope Francis: “No Way For Christians Without the Holy, Hierarchical, Mother Church”, which I didn’t see directly in any of the text, so it’s possible some good parts got left out. Sorry if that is the case. I am out for the day.
Centuries of anti-Catholic propaganda have wreaked havoc on the Church September 16, 2014Posted by Tantumblogo in Basics, Christendom, disaster, General Catholic, history, Holy suffering, horror, martyrdom, paganism, Papa, persecution, secularism, sickness, Society, the enemy.
I found the following excerpt in the neat biography my wife gave me of Pope Leo XIII. Now, the bio was published in 1877, nearly 140 years ago, but even at that time the Church had been under direct and sustained attack from the forces of leftism for over a century. Beginning with Luther’s satanic revolt, building in the rationalism that inevitably followed, and reaching full flower in the socio-political theories of Hobbes, Locke, and others, the state we are in today is the result of 500 years of direct, hate-filled attack on the Church. And it has been hate-filled; from Luther on down, all those who have taken up pen and sword against the Church have been motivated by a perverse self-love which feeds a hatred of the Church that has the temerity to say “no.”
I thought you might find some of the below, taken from pp. 47-52 of Life of Leo XIII:
The more privileged a people is in all the rarest gifts of intellect and heart, the more lavish toward them has been the bounty of Providence in the supernatural order, the deeper will be the perversion effected by an anti-Christian propaganda. What ruin, what desolation is comparable to the sowing of the minds of an entire nation [or an entire Church] with errors, prejudices, passions, which, taking deep root, prevent the possibility of cultivating or planting therein the most necessary and salutary religious notions?
Such had been the process carried on among all classes of the Italian population ever since the days of Voltaire……As in France, so in Italy, skepticism first tainted the upper classes, and from them and by them the intellectual pestilence had been spread downwards through the ambitious middle classes, reaching at length the laboring population in city and country. And so, when the revolution of 1789 first startled Europe by its utterances and innovations, every one of its doctrines found a wide echo in Italy, and too willing apostles among the titled and the learned devoted all their energy and influence to the work of popularizing it. When Voltaire and the Lodge had become incarnate in the Revolution of 1793, and sent their armies into Italy a few years later, there were found, unhappily, but too many influential Italians to hail their advent as the hosts of the new Liberty which denied God and declared war on the existing order of things.
[The people were taught by the revolutionaries......] to despise, to hate, to ridicule, to outrage religion and its ministers; taught Catholics to look upon the august Head of the Church as a usurper in temporal affairs……
The confiscations, the plunder, the destruction, the violation of the most sacred rights, and the disorder thereby caused in the popular mind and heart, in the most deep-seated notions, beliefs, and customs, constituted a condition of things so chaotic that no length of time, no labor of restoration, no efforts of the “discredited” ministers of religion to build up anew the material temple or to win back the confidence of the alienated populations, have achieved anything like a real success, even down to our very day. [Yes, down to our very day. The world never recovered from 1789, or 1776, it's "conservative" progenitor. It is really impossible for us to even know how much our thinking has been altered - compared to Catholics of 300 years ago - by the intervening intellectual "progress." And now the sickness is well-ensconced in the Church. What now?]
How were they to preserve [their children] from the irreligious indifference, the contempt, the hatred of all things holy, the habit of deriding the past, the false notions about liberty, the seductive theories about equality, which were floating forever in the atmosphere, and carried on the wings of the wind like germs of intellectual and moral distempers more fatal than the cholera……
…..The first great triumph of irreligion, in the last half of the 18th century, was to obtain, through the tyranny of the demonic influence of the united Bourbon sovereigns, the suppression of the Jesuits – and to substitute for their numerous colleges in all Latin countries a thoroughly organized system of national non-religious education, as in Spain and Portugal, where the anti-Christian philosophers had it all their own way, on the Voltairean methods which prevaled in France till Napoleon created his National University – the most potent engine, next to the masonic secret societies, ever devised by Caserism to take the youth of a nation out of the hands of Christian parents and the influence of the Church.
That last bit is interesting, because it is my contention the Jesuits never recovered from the 1773 disbanding of the order and even when reconstituted absorbed some of the choleric atmosphere mentioned above, which laid the seeds for the Jesuit’s future and ongoing destruction. It is amazing how influential the Jesuits have been in spreading many of the most egregious and damaging leftist/modernist beliefs in the Church over the past 150 years or so – it’s almost as if, chastened by their earlier (and unjustified) disbandment, they resolved to learn some of the new order so as to be more acceptable, insuring they never met the same fate twice. But they learned the lesson too well, and became what they had always, always fought against.
For the past 100 years, Jesuits have done more damage to the Church than any other group, perhaps leaving aside the Germanic episcopate. Maybe they should never have been reestablished?
Pope Francis to wed couples living in sin? September 13, 2014Posted by Tantumblogo in abdication of duty, Basics, disaster, episcopate, error, General Catholic, horror, Papa, pr stunts, sadness, scandals, secularism, sexual depravity, shocking, the return.
That’s the strong implication of this article from the Daily Telegraph, quoting a spokesman or the Diocese of Rome. The actual term is cohabiting….whether they have repented of and confessed their sin, and have abstained from fornication for some time, is anyone’s guess:
Couples who have been “living in sin” and women who had children out of wedlock will be married by Pope Francis at a ceremony at the Vatican on Sunday, in a further sign of his determination to make the Catholic Church more inclusive and compassionate.
They will be among 20 couples from Rome who will tie the knot in St Peter’s Basilica, in the first such ceremony led by the Pope in his role as Bishop of Rome since he was elected in March last year.
For the Vatican, it will be the first such event since Pope John Paul II joined eight couples in matrimony in 2000.
The prospective brides and grooms had varying personal backgrounds, the diocese of Rome said in a statement.
“There are those who are already cohabiting, those who already have children, who got to know each other in Church,” the diocese said.
One of the women getting married has a grown-up daughter from a previous relationship and will marry a man who was previously married but obtained an annulment.
The woman, named only as Gabriella, said she never imagined that she would be married by the Pope in St Peter’s.
“We didn’t feel worthy or able to meet the requirements of a good Catholic couple,” Gabriella told La Repubblica newspaper. “But the Church under the leadership of Pope Francis has welcomed and embraced us.”
There is just so much wrong with that statement it’s hard to know where to start. If you have confessed any previous sins and have no currently valid marriage, where is he impediment? It seems to me rather likely something very significant has been left out of this brief description. As in, was the previous “relationship” a marriage?
I did see one constant apologist say this is no big thing! The Church is full of sinners! These people are getting their relationships regularized, that’s good! And it is…….but the traditional practice was and is that those persisting in that kind of relationship had to stop their fornication (and cohabitation in almost all cases) to give an indicator of good will and to have their sins washed away through repentance and confession prior to receiving such an august Sacrament. Simply getting married does not remove the guilt of grave sin due to fornication/cohabitation – it takes Confession to do that. We also have the reception of the Blessed Sacrament to consider.
But that was in the bad old days. The obvious doubleplusungood think of back then was that one must show both a true compunction for the sin by abstaining from fornication for quite a while before receiving either marriage or the Blessed Sacrament, and give visible testimony to that by terminating the scandalous aspects of the relationship. I know people who have had to do so at traditional parishes today. Pray God, someone has at least thought to get these souls to Confession before they possibly blaspheme the Holy Ghost.
What do you make of this? Just hype, no big deal, happens all the time, or something more ominous? And what does this act mean in light of the upcoming Synod, if anything?
I’m too tired to figure it out.
Blessed Pius IX on change in the Church August 19, 2014Posted by Tantumblogo in awesomeness, Basics, catachesis, error, General Catholic, Glory, Grace, paganism, Papa, scandals, secularism, Tradition, true leadership, Virtue.
Frequent commenter DotDO sent me a link to Fr. Carota’s blog over the weekend. Good Father Carota qoutes Blessed Pope Pius IX as below, considering doctrinal “change” and ideas, very prevalent in the mid 19th century as they were in the mid-20th, that the Church should open Herself up to the world and all its “marvels” and “progress.” Blessed Pius IX, a truly titanic Pope, would have none of that (emphasis in original, my comments):
Pope Francis supports intervention to stop ISIS….. August 18, 2014Posted by Tantumblogo in Basics, disconcerting, Ecumenism, episcopate, General Catholic, Glory, Holy suffering, martyrdom, Papa, persecution, sadness, scandals, sickness, Society, Spiritual Warfare.
…….but believes any such intervention should proceed through the UN, which……..Ah pbmit mah ton owff
I would just say the United Nations, as a venue for achieving conflict resolution, has, over its 7 decade history, shown itself to be amazingly ineffective and generally ordered to just accepting whatever the new status quo is after some people gets devastated by another. They are then happy to sit down with the victors and perhaps admit them to the Security Council within a few years.
I exaggerate, but not much.
The first paragraph is good, helpful Catholic just war theory. It’s wonderful to stop an unjust aggression without using force, but often that is simply not possible. The kinds of groups/nations/whatever that would resort to an unjust aggression are not the kind that tend to listen to verbal reason. They only know one language, force. The United States could fit into that category in many minds.
Second paragraph, perhaps, but I don’t think there have been too many colonial wars of conquest in the past century or so, at least with first world powers as the aggressors. I think appealing to the US invasion of Iraq in 20033 as a war of conquest would be a pretty far reach, but I have no clear idea if that is what is being referred to.
Para 3 is a bit muddled and seems more like personal opinion – one could even interpret from the language that the nation or group suffering unjust attack must wait a judgment from the UN that such attack is indeed unjust before responding! There is nothing in Catholic just war doctrine that a nation under attack must achieve some kind of balance of world opinion or a majority vote declaring the depredations being committed against it unjust. In the time it can take to achieve such a consensus many nations have been wiped out, so I find this more than just slightly strange. But it is very consistent with a progressive world view. I would agree the arguments seem directed against the US acting alone, but, once again, history has shown that by the time one can get the bloated, almost inevitably corrupt UN to act, it is very often far too late to do anything but evacuate the few survivors and pick up bodies from the rubble.
This is another transcript of a famous airplane interview, so who knows. I think it important to note this is not a doctrinal document. I’ll admit to being torn on this matter of US intervention, I am scandalized and sorrowful by the ongoing atrocities in the Mideast against Christians (and others) and want it to end now, and I know there is not really another nation that can do any intervening with the level of effect the US can achieve, even alone, but I am pretty reticent to see another Mideast conflict involving the US, especially with the current leadership. I do not have much confidence any real long term results can be achieved; at most, I can see perhaps a temporary reduction if not elimination of the suffering.
I do get the sense from the statement above, with the usual caveats for “translation errors” and all that, that Pope Francis is torn himself. There is reality, and then there is the great ecumenical/interreligious project, and the two don’t always align very nicely.
Nevertheless, I pray these words hearten the suffering Iraqi and Syrian Catholics and encourage them to resist this horrific onslaught with whatever means they can find, and with whatever help is given them. I pray this ISIS nightmare be utterly crushed and returned to the pit from whence it came.
The great Carmelite practice of charity…… August 12, 2014Posted by Tantumblogo in awesomeness, Basics, catachesis, disconcerting, episcopate, General Catholic, Glory, Grace, Interior Life, Papa, sanctity, Tradition, Virtue.
Jesus has said “He that loveth father or mother more than Me, is not worthy of Me” (Matt X:27); hence, the precept of charity commands us to love God above all things. However, this precept can be interpreted in two ways. To love God more than any creature to the point of being ready to give up everything rather than offend God gravely is the first degree of charity. It is indispensable for all who desire to be friends of God and to possess His Grace, and therefore, it is required of all. But in a more profound sense, to love God above all things means to prefer Him to everything else, not only to what might be an occasion of mortal or venial sin, but even to all that does not fully correspond to His good pleasure. This is the degree of perfect charity toward which every soul aspiring to intimate friendship with God must tend. This degree requires absolute renouncement and absolute purity, that is, the total absence of every shadow of sin or attachment to creatures [now think about numbers 1,4,6, and 9 from yesterday's list]. The exercise of perfect charity requires, therefore, a work of total purification, a work that is accomplished only by charity; “Charity causes emptiness in the will with respect to all things, since it obliges us to love God above them all.” (Saint Juan de la Cruz, Ascent of Mount Carmel, II, 6,4).
We should be convinced that here on earth the practice of charity is closely united with that of renouncement, each being proportionate to the other; the more perfect and intense is charity, the more total is the renunciation required; but this is so precisely that the soul may attain to loving God with all its strength: “The strength of the soul,” says the mystical doctor, “consists in its faculties, passions, and desires, all of which are governed by the will. Now when these faculties, passions, and desires are directed by the will toward God, and turned away from all that is not God, then the strength of the soul is kept for God, and thus the soul is able to love God with all its strength” (Saint Juan de la Cruz, Ascent of Mount Carmel, 16,2). This is the great function of renouncement in respect to charity: to free the powers of the soul so entirely that they can be wholly employed in loving and serving God alone. If we really want to love God with our whole heart, we must be very generous in renunciation and detachment. This in itself is an exercise of love because it disposes the soul for perfect charity.
I don’t want to dwell on this excessively. Jesuit and Carmelite spirituality have always been quite different. That is fine in and of itself, in Our Lord’s house, there are many rooms. But Jesuit spirituality went very much off the rails starting in the early 20th century and has never recovered. All religious orders are infected with modernism to one degree or another, and most all of them have drifted in varying degrees of severity from their founding charism, including the Carmelites. That has been a continual trend in the Church since there have been religious orders, there have been cycles of growth, decay, reform, renewal, decay, etc, for centuries. But I don’t know if there has ever been quite so sudden and total collapse as that which has afflicted the Jesuit order, literal bulwark of the Church for over 3 centuries, over the past 100 years.
Jesuit were always an order very much in the world, if certainly not of it. But I have to wonder the degree to which the highly disordered spirituality which is embraced by almost all Jesuits didn’t play a role in that “10 steps to happiness” or whatever it was. Such a list would be dismaying from a sandal wearing overripe hippie religious…….but from a pope! It seems very, very difficult to reconcile that list with the Carmelite, but also broadly Catholic, understanding of charity, how to advance in the interior life, drawing closer to God, etc, expressed above. It is almost as if speaking of two very different religions.
I’ll leave it at that for now. I’m probably in enough trouble as it is!
Pope Francis’ very own 10 step program August 11, 2014Posted by Tantumblogo in abdication of duty, Basics, disaster, episcopate, error, General Catholic, Papa, sadness, scandals, secularism, self-serving, shocking, the return.
So when I first saw the below at Fr. Ray Blake’s site last week, I took it Fr. Blake had developed his own “10 step” program of life according to Pope Francis, based on Fr. Blake’s interpretation of some of Pope Francis’ statements. So, he posted this:
So, like I said, I thought this was just Fr. Blake riffing on some of Pope Francis’ more, ummm…..worldly statements. That is to say, I did not think this was a real list from Pope Francis himself, nor a shorthand compendium of some ideas he expressed in an interview, but just someone extrapolating from some of Pope Francis less edifying moments. Coupled with the fact I am extremely busy and have nary a chance to cover much of any news,I sort of let the matter go.
But then I saw some other coverage just today, and realized……ay caramba, these are for realz?!!? And it seems save for a little bit of squabbling over some of the translations, they are.
This is really how the Great Fisherman, Sweet Christ on earth, the occupant of the most exalted office in the history of mankind, and the spiritual leader of at least a billion souls, thinks? When did Dale Carnegie get promoted to the See of Peter.
And as a member of a 12 step program, I can say Pope Francis missed step 3 rather badly, which is the foundation of all the rest: acknowledge the Higher Power. He also excluded step 8, make amends for one’s sins.
And it’s having more than just a slight effect. This very worldly, in some cases nearly new age, conception of “happiness,” with nary a mention of Jesus Christ, is having an immediate and strong impact.
Aside from a mention of Sunday being a
holy day holiday day off from work, the entire list is completely secular. That’s not right, even the mention of Sunday is completely secular, and there is no mention of reserving a day to honor God, which 90+% of the people in the world would accept at least as a sort of nice intention. What is all this bending over backwards to please atheists? There is even a denouncement, at least in the Catholic News Service article, of proselytizing, something I think many early Church fathers and great Saints might take a bit of exception to:
9. Don’t proselytize; respect others’ beliefs. “We can inspire others through witness so that one grows together in communicating. But the worst thing of all is religious proselytism, which paralyzes: ‘I am talking with you in order to persuade you,’ No. Each person dialogues, starting with his and her own identity. The church grows by attraction, not proselytizing,” the pope said.
Poor Saint Francis de Sales, poor Saint Francis Xavier, and thousands of other Saints……they did it all wrong! Saint Paul, too, apparently, and the entire early Church, which existed in a perpetual state of condemnation of the dominant pagan culture. That living rebuke of paganism drove the non-Christians nuts, and provided much fire for the ongoing persecutions. But now we are told to be a proselytizer is the very worst thing one can be.
What can one say? Ten steps to happiness, and Jesus Christ not even in the mix.
I really wish I could meet the Pope, and ask him (in Spanish, since he doesn’t speak English), whether I made a horrible mistake in converting to the Faith.
I know the answer……I have absolutely no doubt……but I have to openly wonder what his answer would be.
Is it either unfair or inappropriate to state that the viewpoint expressed above is unequivocally one of secular humanism? A belief system that says all religions are basically the same, we should throw away any ideology that “divides,” and come together with a mushy, totally ineffectual spirit of nebulous good will (that denies sacrifice and rarely produces any good works), without a thought for the afterlife?
US begins airstrikes against ISIS devils, most of Assyrian Christian lands already lost August 8, 2014Posted by Tantumblogo in Basics, Christendom, disaster, Ecumenism, error, foolishness, General Catholic, horror, paganism, Papa, persecution, sadness, scandals, self-serving, sickness, Society, unadulterated evil.
I do not know if most readers have been following Rorate Caeli’s excellent coverage of the ongoing nightmare in northern Iraq. The devilish new caliphate, well armed and well financed, has managed to roll up almost the entire Nineveh Plain, ancient home to almost entirely Assyrian Catholic Christians for nearly 2000 years. Hundreds of thousands have been displaced. Lord knows how many thousands have died. Cities like Qaraqosh, home to predominately Christian populations since the 1st or 2nd century, are now ghost towns patrolled by these islamist tools of satan. There are also reportedly tens of thousands of members of another non-muslim religion dying on a mountaintop in the same vicinity, chased there by ISIS and left to die. Some airdrops of supplies have now been made, perhaps some may be saved.
While the Western world gnashes its teeth and strikes its breast over the death of one child in Gaza, it has basically turned a great big yawn towards these far more disastrous developments in Iraq and Syria. Christians, increasingly, do not count, especially among the post-Christian power elites in Europe and North America.
One would think the Pope would be doing something, something very dramatic! He hates suffering, he loves everyone! But he has only thus far released one rather weak press release and made no public speech on this topic himself. Perhaps the subject is a bit too inconvenient for the “far more important” work of interreligious dialogue to bear.
Last night, the US did begin air strikes against ISIS. CVN-77 is in the Persian Gulf. I’m sure the Air Force will be hustling to get involved, too – they always have to (can’t let the Navy claim the spotlight). I’m not really excited about this, Our Blessed Lord said those who lived by the sword would die by the sword (and I know I am the last person who should ever use that quote) so while I am hopeful that the bombings will stop ISIS, how long will we stay around? Can this really be a long term solution? But then again, this is a crisis that is most definitely one of America’s making. Or Obama’s making. His precipitous abandonment of Iraq, leaving not even a token force behind, when that fake nation made up by two colonial civil servants was still embroiled in ethnic hatreds and ready to come apart at the seams. Well, come apart it has, and the Christians of Iraq, as usual, have been caught in the middle. So we appear to owe them quite a bit of effort for the state we left them in, as this Iraqi Christian notes below:
Here in the US, the reply of the USCCB and individual bishops seems also quite far from robust. Our own Bishop Kevin Farrell addressed the topic of Christian suffering in the Mideast in a general way back on June 27, but has been pretty preoccupied, at least on his blog, with the Hispanic immigration “crisis” since then. I haven’t seen too many statements from other bishops or the USCCB that just blew me away for their clarity, forcefulness, and concern. And the beat roles on. Hopefully JDAMs and LGBs can stop the ISIS guys, because it seems little else is being done (well, the Kurds are being armed, they apparently ran out of ammunition a few days ago).
How about our bishops call – with the same or even greater intensity as they do for the Central Americans – for an open immigration policy for these suffering Catholics of Iraq? That would at least be ethically and intellectually consistent. As I pointed out above, this nation “owes” the Chaldean/Assyrian Catholics a heckuva a lot, certainly more than those who are just busting over the southern border because they think they’l get an amnesty out of the deal. We left the Chaldean’s homeland a shambles, then walked away. Doesn’t this nation bear some moral culpability to set that situation right.
Anyone know of good relief funds, preferably not USCCB administered, that go to directly aid these people? I have not seen much mention of such. Many aid agencies may be afraid to go into such a violently unstable situation.
Pray for these folks! They are our brethren and are truly abandoned and suffering.
Such a disaster. Satan has such a free hand right now…….I just don’t understand. There must be so few praying, pious souls, for that to be the case. It’s really scary.
And how about ending this nation’s cozy relationship with Saudi Arabia? SA is becoming a sick, twisted wahabbist culture. Most of the 911 hijackers were Saudi. They fund terror around the world, just like Iran, but we treat Iran like a pariah. We don’t need their oil very much. We import almost nothing from SA. We have better sources closer to home. I think it’s time to tell Saudi Arabia we’re not going to put up with their “covert” attempts to build a new caliphate. And we should also shut off any Saudi funding coming into the US to put in more radical mosques.
What could he be thinking? Pope Apologizes to evangelicals for the Church not collapsing enough August 1, 2014Posted by Tantumblogo in abdication of duty, Basics, disaster, Ecumenism, error, foolishness, General Catholic, horror, Papa, sadness, scandals, secularism, self-serving, sickness, the return.
I have avoided over the past week or more the incredibly damaging and scandalous actions and statements by Pope Francis with regard to his evangelical buddies in the hopes these scandals might go away. But eventually it became too much to avoid. Apparently, TFG has been meeting and cavorting with these hucksters all summer. Scandal has piled on scandal. This is not a matter of translations, or spin. The statements are too cohesive, too similar, and repetitious to be mere accidents of one kind or another. And the worst of all just occurred.
For example, Bergoglio has spent weeks behind the scenes cultivating relationships with the heads of the powerful “Evangelical” communities of the United States. He has spent hour after hour in their company at his residence in Santa Marta. He has invited them for lunch. He immortalized one of these convivial moments by giving a high five, amid raucous laughter, to Pastor James Robinson, one of the most successful American televangelists.
When no one knew anything about it yet, it was Francis who alerted them about his intention to go visit their Italian colleague in Caserta, and explained the reason: “To extend the apologies of the Catholic Church for the damage that has been done to them by obstructing the growth of their communities.”
Bear in mind, these are the very sects that are absolutely GUTTING the Church in Central and South America! These are the sects that have seen explosive growth in exclusively Catholic areas over the past several decades of liberal heresy. And we are to apologize to them? How about they apologize for all the false lies they spread about the Church and what She believes, for all the souls they have lured away under false pretenses, for all the immense damage they have done to the Body of Christ?
One must ask how any Catholic could even think to apologize for these aggressively hostile and even rapacious sects? But the Pope? How mammoth the indifference to say such………
At some point one has to ask in dismayed wonder, what could he possibly be thinking? He seems to have such an ideologically indifferentist understanding of Christianity and all the horribly erroneous sects that he feels they are fully equivalent to the Church – or maybe quite a bit better. This is, of course, the highly erroneous and incredibly damaging view the radical progressive wing of the Church (if they can be called part of the Church) has been advancing for the past several decades. But it also raises so many stark question as to beggar the imagination:
- What is the Holy Father’s view regarding the Blessed Sacrament? These sects don’t have it, Christ said it was necessary for salvation. Does the Holy Father believe such?
- Pope Francis claims to be very Marian. But the sects hate, attack, besmirch, and revile Our Blessed Mother. How Marian can you be if you so adore these false sects?
- What about Authority? These sects don’t have it, they are beyond the nice TV veneer a nest of frequently vicious squabbling and mutual loathing. They divide against each other daily into endlessly multiplying and exclusive groups. They are the entire opposite of the Church Christ founded. How can anyone pretend otherwise?
- What about virtue? Are all these millionaire evangelists like Copeland and Robinson virtuous, selling false “prosperity gospels” to desperate people in exchange for their donations, donations often wrangled from poor lost souls after extensive manipulation?
- What on earth does the Church have to gain from pretending these shysters are anything but what they are, enemies of the Faith growing rich by stealing deluded souls from the One True Church?
- How far divorced from reality does a South American prelate have to be to believe the Church has done anything but provide the richest feeding ground for the sects imaginable with all the liberal indifferentism and the trashing of our Ancient Rite and moral code? What opposition? My God, what does TFG want? Nothing left?
What can one say at this point? This is simply a period in the Church’s history that will have to be endured, praying and fasting as best we can to ameliorate this catastrophe. God must be sorely displeased with us to inflict us with TFG. I do not know what will be left in 4 or 5 years, but millions of souls will fall away absent one of the greatest miracles in Church history.
Let us forego, however, judgments of the Holy Father’s soul or claims of heresy. That is not for us to make. We can look at objective prudential and semi-official acts and express disagreement and dismay, but not go into formal claims. That is not for us to do.
Some messages for Cardinal Kasper July 29, 2014Posted by Tantumblogo in Basics, disaster, episcopate, error, Eucharist, foolishness, General Catholic, Papa, Sacraments, sadness, scandals, secularism, shocking.
A few messages for Cardinal Kasper and his ideological allies, via Fr. Carota and Cardinal Muller. First, Fr. Carota had the following pics, one quoting a great priest and the other a great Saint, along with an emphatic statement in support for the inability of Doctrine to be contradicted:
We need to scream out a thousand million times: CATHOLIC DOCTRINE CAN NOT AND WILL NOT CHANGE. We can further develop our understanding of it, we can further define it, but if it changes, it is no longer Catholic or the immutable Deposit of Faith given to us by Jesus Christ. When people come up with “catholic doctrine” that has changed, it is absolutely no longer Catholic. It is absolutely and nothing more than heresy.
Today, if you even question the changes in Catholic Doctrines, you are automatically persecuted and ostracized by most bishops, priests, religious and people.
All of us have a responsibility to suffer for defending the purity of Catholic truth. TheArians, (Jesus is not equal to God the Father) were the majority of “catholics” for around 200 + years (300 – 500 A.D.). Many “catholics” were Iconoclasts, (condemned painting or sculpturing of Catholic religious art), for hundreds of years too (Late 600′s- Early 800′s). All those who resisted these heresies were exiled, punished, persecuted or put to death.
We might have such a glorious future to look forward to!
The awesome pics:
Next, Prefect of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith Cardinal Gerhard Muller has given a book length interview in which he once again forcefully restates Catholic Doctrine on marriage, adultery, divorce, reception of the Blessed Sacrament, etc., and really takes apart the Kasperite gambit (as so many have already done). At least Cardinal Muller appears much more orthodox on this topic than he is in some of his Marian theology and especially with regard to liberation theology:
Not even an ecumenical council can change the doctrine of the Church, because its founder, Jesus Christ, has entrusted the faithful custody of his teachings and his doctrine to the apostles and their successors. We have a well-developed and structured doctrine on marriage, based on the word of Jesus, which must be offered in its integrity. The absolute indissolubility of a valid marriage is not a mere doctrine, but rather a divine dogma that has been defined by the Church. In the face of the de facto rupture of a valid marriage, another civil “marriage” is not admissible. If it were, we would be facing a contradiction, because if the previous union, the “first” marriage – or rather, simply the marriage – is really a marriage, another subsequent union is not “marriage.” It is only by a play on words that one can speak of a first and second “marriage.” A second marriage is possible only when the legitimate spouse has died, or when the marriage has been declared invalid, because in these cases the previous bond has been dissolved. If this is not the case, we are in the presence of what is called the “impediment of the bond.”
…..“The image of the field hospital is very beautiful. Nonetheless we cannot manipulate the pope by reducing the whole reality of the Church to this image. The Church in itself is not a hospital: the Church is also the house of the Father.”……
……“A simple ‘adaptation’ of the reality of marriage to the expectations of the world does not bear any fruit, but rather turns out to be counterproductive: the Church cannot respond to the challenges of the modern world with a pragmatic adaptation. In opposing an easy pragmatic adaptation, we are called to choose the prophetic audacity of martyrdom. With this we can bear witness to the Gospel of the holiness of marriage. A lukewarm prophet, through an adjustment to the spirit of the time, would be seeking his own salvation, not the salvation that only God can give.”
There is much more from Cardinal Muller at the link. He goes on to some length refuting this latest attempt to, in effect, destroy the Sacrament of Marriage and blaspheme the Holy Spirit through mass, sacrilegious reception of the Blessed Sacrament. Cardinal Kasper, if he had any, should be ashamed for even bringing this up. His arguments, such as they are, have been completely refuted from Scripture, Tradition, and even the post-conciliar Magisterial statements of Pope Saint John Paul II. It is ludicrous this is even being discussed. Kasper has been strongly opposed by Cardinals Muller, Burke, Collins, Brandmuller, Sebastian, Caffarra, De Paolis, and others. But he has a lot of support from other corners, such as most of the very disordered Germanic episcopate.
But, in spite of all that, this Synod will likely come down to where the pope stands. If he strongly supports the Kasperite gambit, we shall have to pray much to the Holy Ghost.