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Fun with Google January 3, 2010

Posted by Tantumblogo in Dallas Diocese, North Deanery, scandals.

I’m sure most of you use Google from time to time.  Now, I mostly use Bing, but sometimes I still use Google. 

I was having fun with Google, and I found a rather curious match.  If you search the terms [wicca joyce rupp], you get alot of hits.  The first hit, however, is to Joyce Rupp’s own website.  Now, if you click on the cached version of that page, Google tells you something interesting.  On the cached version of that page, you will see a grey box at the top.  In that grey box, it will tell you that the terms [joyce] and [rupp] appear on this page, but that the term [wicca] only appears on that page because it is associated with links associated with that page.   This means one of two things – either a ton of web sites associated with Wicca are pointing to Joyce Rupp’s website, or Joyce Rupp has embedded a keyword search term into the .html of her website.   That term being, of course, [wicca]. 

Why would this sweet, innocent Catholic nun who only wants to heighten women’s connection with our Lord and Savior have such a strong connection to wicca (witchcraft) on her own website? 

Oh, and Rupp’s book The Circle of Life, shows a similar association with wicca.  In fact, several of her book reviews on a number of websites make positive reference to the book’s wicca elements.  That is to say, people are saying, “this is a really good book for wiccans,” or something to that effect. 

Why would any Catholic Church have an author that is so closely associated with witchcraft?  Further, why would a pastor, and parish staff, expend so much time and political capital defending their decision to invite such a speaker?  There are high costs associated with Sr. Rupp’s retreat.   These costs include the disaffectation of some of the best, most reverent parishioners at several area parishes. 

UPDATE:  I want to make something clear.  In all my posts dealing with the upcoming retreat and Sr. Rupp, I have not assailed her personally, nor have I judged her.  Sr. Rupp may well be a wonderful person, charismatic, and she may have the best intentions on Earth.  None of that matters a whit.  What does matter is that her work is very strongly oriented towards New Age, it is veritably consumed by New Age beliefs, and some of these beliefs, like ‘circles of life’ and delving into ancient Celtic dogmas, tread very closely towards wicca practices. 

Sr. Rupp may have no intention of attracting wiccans, but it doesn’t change the fact that, based on the Google results, wiccans find some of her work very attractive.  Based on the Amazon keyword lists, some of her books are strongly oriented towards wiccanism.  This is the evidence. 

The whole point of  my blogging on Sr. Rupp has been this: there are scores and scores of very good speakers who are in complete union with all Church teachings.  The five parishes involved in sponsoring this women’s retreat have a long history, however, of only hosting speakers whose orthodoxy is very questionable, at best.  Thousands of Catholics leave the Church every day, because they don’t understand the Faith.  It is my belief that if they did understand the Faith, they would never leave.  We need much better speakers at events like this to help people to understand their faith in a far more substantial way – trendy, New Age, self-oriented feel good lecturers are not going to accomplish that goal, as the last 30+ years of US Church history have amply demonstrated. 



1. Heidi - January 3, 2010

She is a wonderful, deeply spiritual, Catholic retreat-giver. I can speak as someone who has been on one of her retreats. Not as a speculator trying to make assumptions based on possible google keyword associations.

Alison - January 6, 2010

Test the spirits, as the lesson of the Bereans teaches in the Bible.
If the spirits are not of God, they are from the adversary. Do not engage them.
If they are of God, you have nothing to go on the offensive about.
Be thankful that the subject has come to your attention so that you can bring it to the Lord in prayer or adoration and ask Him to guide you, through the Holy Spirit or His Word.
For those who don’t test the spirits, they fall prey to a master who deceives, uses bondage to steal freedom, and ultimately seeks to destroy or kill. satan is a cruel master.
Jesus is the way, the truth and the life.
Jesus lets you decide without tricks or sugar-coating.
For me, Larry’s blog raises a flag up as a warning.
Be alert. Be vigilant. I appreciate the head’s up.

Heidi - January 6, 2010

I already did “test the spirits” and bring it to God. And God definitely told me Joyce is a holy woman. How presumptuous of you to assume I didn’t already pray over this!

I’m not on the offensive. I believe what I’m doing is being on the defensive. I’m defending a holy woman whose name you’re smearing.

The blog writer who is on the offensive. I find it very anti-Christian and embarrassing.

2. TravelerWithChrist - January 4, 2010

Heidi, I can’t comment on the character of Ms. Rupp, but I disagree on the “Catholic” claim. Do you know Ms. Rupp and her order teach the Enneagram, centering, positive energy, zen, yoga, dream symposium, they have ‘wisdom circles’, and they use ‘opening and closing rituals’. None of these are acceptable Catholic practices. These are all new age/wicca activities.
See for yourself here: http://www.osms.org/osm2006_currentevents.htm

3. tantamergo - January 5, 2010

I’d like to add, just for everyone’s edification since Heidi declined to share with us, is that our poster Heidi maintains a blog for the, I think it fair to say, very dissenting National Catholic Reporter. I think that is further evidence against Sr. Rupp hosting the retreat at St. Elizabeth Seton.

4. Heidi - January 5, 2010

I didn’t realize I was required to share everything about myself to comment. What else is required? An orthodoxy test?

Just confirming that it’s nearly impossible to have a conversation with conservative Catholics.

5. tantamergo - January 6, 2010

No, but I think it helps to provide context for your comment.

Conversation is fine, what would you like to discuss? I think I’ve established, however, that no matter how nice Sr. Rupp may be, it is irrelevant to the issues I’ve been discussing.

See my latest post. There is much more to come, and it gets worse.

6. tantamergo - January 6, 2010

Heidi equates describing the beliefs of someone who purports to be Roman Catholic and who trades on her Catholic identity with ‘smearing.’ I haven’t done anything, Heidi, but present Sr. Rupp’s own words and beliefs and contrasted those beliefs with the doctrine of the Church. I haven’t condemned Sr. Rupp personally, in spite of your repeated efforts to claim that I have. What I have done, however, is pointedly ask why someone, with beliefs so at odds with the doctrine of the Church, is being allowed to speak on Church grounds in the Dallas Diocese. I am far from the only one to have raised such concerns about Sr. Rupp.

You have so far presented no evidence whatsoever, other than your personal view that Sr. Rupp is ‘holy’. Duly noted.

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