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Sadness – a priest repeatedly apostasizes on the internet? August 5, 2010

Posted by Tantumblogo in Basics, foolishness, General Catholic, scandals.
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This is very sad  Sorry, I can’t imbed it in the post, but go to this church website from a St. Edward’s Catholic ‘Community’ in Nashville.   Watch the video, if you can hack it.  A priest gives an “interview” in which he expounds on everything wrong with the Church today.  Acts of the Apostasy couldn’t count the errors.  I’ll not count them, per se’, but just throw a bunch of snark/well intentioned, charitable criticism (you choose) out:

UPDATE!: Someone loaded the video on youtube!  Thanks to CMR!

1.  The Church needs leadership.  I agree.  But not the “independent” of Rome leadership he’s advocating.  That’s been the problem for the past 40+ years, insufficient fealty to Rome, doctrine, and Tradition.  This septuagenarian priest railing against the “out of touch” septuagenarian cardinals is uh…..I think we know what it is.

2.  Humanae Vitae is the problem in the Church!  That’s why folks have been leaving the Church!  That’s the problem!  Apparently, doctrine should be up to a majority vote!  If 2701 bishops vote aye, and 11 nay, we can go back to declaring that Christ is really just a really great guy, not divine at all.  How about this for a problem – back in the 20’s,- 60’s, a bunch of priests, theologians, and even bishops went off the reservation and started rejecting doctrine, and then started infecting the laity with their views.  Those rejectionist priests, etc., predicted and insisted that HV would allow for contraception, and told the laity to expect it, too.  They laid a massive expectation on much of the Church that contraception was OK.  When the Holy Spirit, preventing the Church from error, insured that the Tradition of the Church would be upheld by Humanae Vitae, all these dissenters were left looking foolish.  They’ve never gotten over that. 

3.  The Church should allow divorce!  That’s the problem!

4.  Bishops contributed to the pedophile priest problem.  No argument here.

5.  No married priests, that’s the problem!

6.  No women priests, that’s the problem!  We must have them!  It’s only just!

7.  Damn foreign priests, that’s the problem!  Learn to speak English, you brown-skinned mutts! 

This guy is like a bad caricature of a southern sheriff.  It’s like watching “In the Heat of the Night.”

8.  Priests and laity should make the decisions in the Church.  Bishops don’t listen (well……..that’s pretty true).

9.  Episcopal ministers should not be ordained!  That’s the problem!  Too many angry episcopalians are leaving their Church and coming to ours.  We don’t need these uptight, white bread homophobic misogynistic WASPs in the Catholic Church!  We  need more brown-skinned foreign priests!  Oh, wait…..

10. The first mission of the Church is being a community.  The horizontal bar of the cross is very long, the vertical, not so much.

11. This guy is really hung up on celibacy.  I think he’s having, or had, problems with this.

12.  The Church must apologize more for past sins!  That’s the problem!  We can’t wait another 100 years to “apologize” for upholding timeless Christian doctrine regarding birth control!  The future can’t wait!

13. Back to the women priests. 

14.  The young men entering seminary today are “intellectually inferior.”  Good God, this man really knows how to endear himself, doesn’t he?  What he’s saying is, these orthodox, faithful men in the seminary today freak him out, he can’t stand them.  There has to be something very wrong with them if they don’t think like he does.  They are plainly “dysfunctional.”

Maybe this guy should consider that the problem with people leaving the Church is less the fact that mean, stodgy old Rome won’t allow all these wonderful changes he’s advocating for to happen, but that people like him in the Church have been undermining the Faith for decades, leading to doubt, confusion, and causing millions to not take their Faith seriously.  I don’t mean that he’s influenced millions in that way, but that, writ large, this tendency in the Church is just as likely, if not more likely, the cause of the millions leaving the Church as Rome insisting on orthodoxy.  In my personal experience, orthodoxy always leads to better attendance, more donations, more vocations, more devotion, a much stronger parish, and  an immense change in attitude towards the Church as a whole.  It is the constant dissent, the constant desire for rupture/revolution in the Church, that leads to folks leaving, as the last 50 years have amply demonstrated.  I feel very sorry for this priest – everything he believes is catastrophically wrong, but he’s too set in his ways to look at the evidence any other way than his anti-orthodox, dissent-oriented views.

Think about the mentality it took to make this video.  He plainly intended this as a soapbox for these views. 

This guy needs prayers.  His name is Fr. Breen, St. Edward’s parish Nashville.   Prayers of conversion and revelation.

More UPDATE!:  CMR reports this is not the first time Fr. Breen has gone off on these subjects!  He was sanctioned by his bishop for doing so in 1993, and made to pledge that he would never again put these views forth in public.  He broke that pledge in 2006, and obviously again.  Want to contact his bishop?

The Most Reverend David R. Choby
Bishop of Nashville

The Catholic Center
2400 Twenty-first Avenue South
Nashville, TN. 37212
Bishop@dioceseofnashville.com

Comments

1. Mary - August 6, 2010

This guy thinks he should be able to preside over his parish using his conscience, rather than magisterium and papal authority. He thinks others are too scared to complain to Rome. He thinks his parish is losing parishioners due to the strictness of the Church. Boy is he wrong; it’s his own leadership.

Churches with an orthodox priest are growing in number, producing new seminarians; the sufferings they are facing are due to growth, not decline.

This guy needs to get out of his shell, look around and take notes.

(A quick though, I wonder if there is an orthodox parish nearby taking his parishioners…)

2. LarryD - August 6, 2010

Thanks for the link! Nice analysis, too.

3. Thomas Raines+ - August 6, 2010

I can see why the good Father would be opposed to the Traditional Anglicans. These people have suffered to keep the Faith and a Holy Liturgy and have put thier money where there mouth was and built church buildings and supported priests.

4. Nashville bishop investigating dissent-spouting priest « A Blog for Dallas Area Catholics - August 9, 2010

[…] That Nashville priest I blogged on last week who rejected a huge swath of Church doctrine (saying, as well, that “the people” of the Church rejected it as well) is being investigated by his diocese.  If disciplined, this will be the third time for saying essentially the same things over two decades.  Pray for his parish.  And pray for his conversion, to see the light of Faith fully and without corrupting it with his personal preferences, as we are all so wont to do.  […]


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