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Does anyone else find it incredible…. May 18, 2011

Posted by Tantumblogo in Dallas Diocese, disaster, foolishness, General Catholic, sadness, scandals, sickness.

……that abuse by predominately pre-pubescent and adolescent boys by priests had absolutely nothing to do with either pedophilia (which I believe) or homosexuality?  That it was due to being unable to cope with the ‘pressures’ of the sexual revolution?

I should then, count myself very lucky that I wasn’t constantly abused by the men who lived through the same sexual revolution and yet somehow managed not to abuse me? 

And yet, we will soon find certain, constant apologists, you know who they are, spending 500-1500 words bending logic into pretzels in order to try to explain why the recent John Jay report is just exactly, 100% correct.


1. Steve B - May 19, 2011


Yes. I do find the conclusions of this John Jay report incredible….

If the abuse scandal truly had nothing to do with homosexuality, then doesn’t simple LOGIC dictate that the abuses would have been predominantly with females rather than males??? 80% of the victims were MALE, so homosexuality was RAMPANT amongst the abuses.

So, I don’t buy the conclusion of this John Jay report, simply because it defies simple logic and common sense.

Sadly, the liberal fringe of Catholicism will probably try to exploit the conclusions in this report to justify allowing men with homosexual attractions to continue to enter the seminaries….

Pax et benedictiones tibi, per Christum Dominum nostrum,

Steve B
Plano, TX

tantamergo - May 19, 2011

The John Jay report claims that the overwhelming amount of abuse occurring with boys was due to opportunity. That’s ridiculous. Sexuality is not so flippant, so variable in 99.9% of the population that one would suddenly switch sexualities (hetero, homo) based on opportunity. It is true that in very isolated situations, like prison, that rates of homosexuality do rise, but that is because there is simply no alternative. It is not like these priests were locked in a concrete blockhouse with nothing but boys around them 24/7. They targeted boys because that is who they were attracted to! A straight man is not going to have sex with a boy! This doesn’t even make any sense.

There have been times at my work where we have so over analyzed and studied a problem as to convince ourselves that the problem was insoluble. Frequently, the obvious answer was staring us in the face but due to being ‘down in the weeds’ we missed it. That is the most charitable reason I can give for the laughable conclusions of this report. It is either that, or a politically motivated conclusion reached in advance of the study ever being conducted.

Steve B - May 19, 2011


The following statement in the news report by salon.com says it all for me:

“The report was commissioned by bishops of the American Catholic Church….”

Now, if an INDEPENDENTLY commissioned study was conducted, I’ll bet a month’s salary that the conclusions would be correctly aligned to logic & common sense.

Pax et benedictiones tibi, per Christum Dominum nostrum,

Steve B
Plano, TX

2. KathiBee - May 20, 2011

From the Salon column:

“The report was commissioned by bishops of the American Catholic Church, and compiled by scholars at John Jay College of Criminal Justice. It is thought to have cost around $1.8 billion, half of which was provided by the bishops themselves (the U.S. Justice Department’s National Institute of Justice contributed approximately $280,000, according to the New York Times).”

I’m really hoping that BILLION was a misprint & it’s supposed to be million — although really, even nearly $2M seems an outrageous amount of money to spend on a report.

tantamergo - May 20, 2011

I’ve seen 1.8 million elsewhere, but still…..you tend to get what you pay for, and he who pays the piper calls the tune. I’ve seen the Anchoress and others trying to explain how abuse is about power and not about sexuality, but I’m still not buying it. What many of these apologists for the study seem to forget, with all their comments about ‘opportunity,’ is that altar girls started appearing in large numbers in the 1970s, DURING THE HEIGHT OF THE ABUSE! So it wasn’t just ‘opportunity,’ we have very confused men with a predominately gay orientation who come from a time (most ordained 50s-70s, and think of the families they come from) where being gay was shameful and unthinkable. So of course they self-describe as straight. Even that Bishop in Belgium who has now admitted molesting (at least) 3 boys over years says he’s not gay. OK buddy…..whatevs you say.

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