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Bishop Vasa says that pro-abort ‘Catholics’ are self-excomunicated January 25, 2012

Posted by Tantumblogo in Abortion, awesomeness, Basics, Dallas Diocese, disaster, episcopate, General Catholic, scandals, sickness, Society, unadulterated evil.
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Along with several other strong things.  I wonder what Philothea (Dr. Jay) thinks about this?  She has some experience with Bishop Vasa.  Perhaps she’ll leave a comment?

When Sonoma County Pro-Life advertised its annual Rally for Life held last Sunday, it promised that its keynote speaker — Santa Rosa Bishop Robert Vasa — “is sure to challenge and inspire us all.” Bishop Vasa did not let them down.

Any government leader, particularly those who claim to be Christian, who claim to be pro-choice, is unworthy of public office,” Bishop Vasa told the rally at Old Courthouse Square in Santa Rosa on Jan. 22. “Absolutely unworthy and absolutely unfit for public office.”

Politicians who support abortion are “as guilty of abortion as those who choose it themselves,” he said. And Roe v. Wade, said Bishop Vasa, was an “illicit and invalid” decision.

Because of its pro-abortion policies, said Bishop Vasa, the U.S. is no longer “the land of the free and the home of the brave. It’s a land of the imprisoned and the home of the cowards.”

The bishop’s remarks, reported the Santa Rosa Press Democrat, brought cheers from a crowd of about 100 people who gathered in the afternoon rain to hear his speech.

“Vasa suggested such leaders who publicly hold such a position shouldn’t accept communion at Mass,” reported the Press Democrat. “He also said they could be excommunicated, or banished from the church through their actions.” [I pray the “suggestion” was actually a firm demand]

“In some ways, they excommunicate themselves,” the Press Democrat quoted the bishop as saying in an interview following his speech. [Uh….it’s either clear that they do, or they don’t. You can’t be excommunicated partially.  Anyone who takes a public stand against the Doctrine of the Faith on such a clearly defined issue places themselves outside the bounds of the Faith – excommunicate, anathema sit!]

Well, yes, but “self-excommunication” doesn’t have the same weight, the same alleviation of public scandal given by pro-abort or other apostate ‘Catholics,’ as does a formal excommunication.  And it’s rather easy to say these things, and rather harder to implement them, when there will be real and imagined consequences.  I have previously held Bishop Vasa in high regard, but heard a few things regarding him which were somewhat disconcerting.  It appears his former Diocese of Baker, OR is not in great shape, and wasn’t a wonderland of Catholic orthodoxy when he was there.  But perhaps I have an exaggerated view of the power of a bishop and don’t appreciate how hard it is to swim against a stream of modernist, heterodox staff, clergy, and laity. 

Anyways, it’s still good stuff.  We need more like this, much more.  Perhaps this contraceptive mandate will be a wake-up call to the episcopate.  I pray that it is.

 

Comments

1. Dismas - January 25, 2012

Huh. ‘Magine that. Not only can some people be in “partial communion,” they can also be in “partial excommunion.” How is that for clarity and heroism?

A Prayer:

Dear Lord, send us not “good” bishops. We have enough “good” bishops. Lord, please send us heroic, authentic Catholic bishops. Lord, please send us many heroic, authentic Catholic bishops.

tantamergo - January 26, 2012

Several dozen St. Anthony Mary Claret’s seem to be in order.

2. Jay Boyd - January 25, 2012

Well, since you asked…it’s true, I have a few “issues” with Bishop Vasa. But in his support, I will say that Bishop Vasa has always been strong on pro-life issues, and LifeSiteNews knows they can count on him for a good pro-life quote. This most recent statement, and his appearance at the rally are good signs. In the Diocese of Baker, he was supportive of pro-life efforts, too, and I believe we had a pro-life conference most of the years he was here. Also, he did clean up some of the more heterodox stuff that was going on in various parishes, especially with openly homosexual extraordinary ministers of Holy Communion; I only wish he could have been a little stronger on the follow-up to his pastoral letters (which were excellent). The majority of the current problems in our Diocese, in my not-so-humble opinion, have stemmed from actions taken by our current Apostolic Administrator William S. Skylstad. However, SOME of the groundwork for those problems was laid by Bishop Vasa. Of course, hindsight is 20/20. Still…I guess I have become a little cynical over the years. Talk is cheap. I want to see a bishop who talks the talk AND walks the walk! Bishop Vasa definitely talks the talk, but I can’t say I’ve seen him walk the walk. I agree wholeheartedly with the prayer “Dismas” proposes we pray! “heroic, authentic Catholic bishops” – AMEN!

tantamergo - January 26, 2012

Thanks, Jay. And I just learned you have written for HPR. Shows how sloooow I am!

I had a long talk with a priest last night that touched on this subject. We’re in such a mess – any super-heroic bishop who seriously cleans out and reforms a heterodox diocese like Miami is going to need a bodyguard, literally. That’s how bad things have gotten. Of course, there were several attempts on the life of St. Anthony Mary Claret.


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