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Giving credit where due February 9, 2012

Posted by Tantumblogo in Basics, Dallas Diocese, disaster, episcopate, error, General Catholic, horror, sadness, scandals, sickness, Society.

Dr. Ed Peters, noted canonist, who made some truly bewildering arguments regarding Michael Voris, RealCatholicTV and the Archdiocese of Detroit, is more on target today with an analysis of the Nancy Pelosi situation and her constant, repeated apostasy from the Faith.  Peters has concluded, and I strongly concur, that if Nancy Pelosi does not warrant excommunication (or at least denial of the Blessed Sacrament), then discipline is completely meaningless:

As a canon lawyer, my view is that Nancy Pelosi deserves to be deprived of holy Communion as the just consequence of her public actions; as her fellow Catholic, my view is that Nancy Pelosi deserves to be deprived of holy Communion to bring home to her and to the wider faith community the gravity of her conduct and the need to avoid such conduct altogether or, that failing, at least to repent of it. Quickly.

In March 2010, I expressed the view that Nancy Pelosi’s protracted and public anti-life conduct, which she repeatedly justifies with (twisted takes on) the Catholic faith, sufficed, in my view, to bring about her debarment from the reception of holy Communion under Canon 915.

If Pelosi’s “prolonged public conduct does not qualify as obstinate perseverance in manifest grave sin,” I wrote two years ago, “then, in all sincerity, I must admit to not knowing what would constitute obstinate perseverance in manifest grave sin.”

It’s now February of 2012, and nothing in Pelosi’s conduct over the last 23 months suggests any emendation of her attitudes toward killing unborn babies, etc., etc., etc. Indeed her recent call for Catholics qua Catholics to unite behind, of all things!, President Obama’s plan to impose immoral policies on private medical insurance plans—which call provoked this moving cri de coeur from Fr. Zuhlsdorf—suggests that Pelosi’s views, like Pharaoh’s heart, have only hardened with time.

Canon 915as I and others have explained many times, is not about impositions on individual conscience, it’s about public consequences for public behavior. [PUBLIC behavior.] It’s about taking people at their word and acknowledging the character of their actions. It’s about not pretending that people don’t really mean what they repeatedly say and what they repeatedly do.

Nancy Pelosi obviously means exactly what she says, and she regularly backs up her words with deeds. She deserves to be taken seriously. Very seriously.

I have been told, by a source reasonably well placed, that there are two reasons no action has ever been taken against Nancy Pelosi, John Kerry, the Kennedys, Joe Biden Murkowski, and numerous other apostate Catholic political leaders – one, there is still a faction of bishops at the USCCB opposed to any enforcement of discipline, and they have kept in place a “rule” that prohibits an individual bishop from doing so (which is ridiculous, as the USCCB has no authority, but it would mean that any bishop so doing would be ostracized and denied plum assignments and, so important, political “connections”), and two, the USCCB and individual bishops have been warned they will lose their cherished tax-exempt status and government checks if they made such a move.

Wow – so souls will likely be lost, and enormous, incalculable scandal caused the faithful, because of group-think, the desire to be political “players,” and concerns over paying taxes? 

Yes, our bishops need many, many prayers.  This ongoing, egregious scandal, is a situation that cries out to Heaven for redress.


1. Richard W Comerford - February 10, 2012

I think there is a problem here. As you know the good Canon Lawyer is employed by the Seminary which serves the Archdiocese of Detroit which has a link to the National Catholic Reporter.

In 1968 the Local Ordinary condemned the National Catholic Reporter (“Fish-wrap”) , ordered it to stop using the word “Catholic” and called on his fellow Bishops f0r support. See: http://www.greenspun.com/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg.tcl?msg_id=00Cofvport. In response Bishop Thomas Gumbleton, Vicar General & Axillary Bishop for Detroit, became a regular columnist for Fish-wrap where he advocated for homosexuality, contraception, women’s ordination, intercommunion, and other controversial matters. See: http://www.lifesitenews.com/news/archive/ldn/2006/jan/06012602.

Bishop Gumbleton’s public behavior in this matter over a period of 44-years constitutes obstinate perseverance in manifest grave sin. Yet the good Bishop remains a priest in good standing and in full communion with his Archdiocese of Detroit.

If a Roman Catholic Bishop can publicly advocate for artificial contraception in a condemned publication for almost a half century without being denied Holt Communion how can a Catholic politician, in justice, be denied Holy Communion for advocating for the same intrinsic evil?

I may be wrong but under these circumstances I do not see hpw a condemnation of Ms. Pelosi will fly. “Who will follow an uncertain trumpet?” (cf 1 Cor 14:8).

God bless

Richard W Comerford

tantamergo - February 10, 2012

Good points, but because discipline was not upheld in the past is hardly a reason not to uphold it now. We need to start enforcing it on those who give the gravest public scandal – Pelosi fits that bill, far more even than a pro-contracept bishop in the Fishwrap.

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