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Michael Voris on Latin Mass parishes March 28, 2012

Posted by Tantumblogo in awesomeness, Basics, Dallas Diocese, General Catholic, Latin Mass, Sacraments, Tradition, Virtue.

Some people say that Latin Mass parishes are really strong in the Faith because that’s the kind of people they attract.  They attract the already committed.  There are claims that such parishes somehow rob other parishes of “the good people.”  There may be some (a little) truth in that belief, but I can state that my experience is that Latin Mass parishes tend to cause one to grow in their Faith tremendously.  Someone who may be so-so may become a really devout, committed Catholic as a result of assisting at a Latin Mass parish regularly.  I think it’s a positive reinforcement loop – “good” people or people with a propensity to want to learn and grow in the Faith develop an attraction for the Latin Mass, and then get exposed to a really powerful, what I would call very authentic form of Catholicism, and that makes them grow all the more.   Once one gets a taste of devout, traditional Catholicism, there is a tendency to hunger for more.  If it weren’t 45 minutes each way to the parish, and if gas weren’t umpteen dollars a gallon, and if I didn’t have so many other things going on!, I’d be there every day.  I love it.

But there is no question that our local Latin Mass parishes are blessed with many extremely talented, on-fire, committed, devout and young souls with a burning desire to serve Christ in His Church.  I am humbled to be in their presence.  That’s not to say there aren’t such souls at “regular” parishes.  There are .  But the density seems very high at the Latin Mass parishes I’ve experienced.  Michael Voris’ experience seems to bear that out, as well.

If it weren’t 45 minutes each way to the parish, and if gas weren’t umpteen dollars a gallon, and if I didn’t have so many other things going on!, I’d be there every day.  I love it.  I crave it.  It’s amazing being among a group of people who are striving to live a faithful Catholic existence. It’s more than that………it’s transformative.



1. Kevin Shook (@DFWSHOOK) - March 28, 2012

I don’t beleive that Latin Mass parishes rob people from other N.O. parishes, rather it is the N.O. parish that pushes people to the Latin Mass. If one is not being assaulted by lackadaisical manner in which the N.O. is often celebrated, the cadre of “Eucharistic Ministers”, the Protestant innovations among those in the pews or the Music, the Homilies are almost guaranteed to lessen your faith. In the year that I have been exclusively assisting at Mater Dei, I have yet to hear a Homily that didn’t teach me somthing about my Faith or my Catholic heritage. Rather than reference pop culture or TV, saints, Church Doctors and theologians are quoted and referenced extensively. In all honesty, when was the last time you heard an Encyclical quoted in a Homily given at N.O. Mass? Latin Mass Homilies are CCD for adults.

Terry Carroll - March 29, 2012

The state of catechesis in the Church today is so awful as to be judged “missing in action.” As with public education, our pastoral leaders attempt to “fix it” by throwing money at “new and improved” programs that, over time, have become worse rather than better. What few seem to notice is that catechesis began to decline with the introduction of “homilies” to replace “sermons.” The typical Catholic for CENTURIES was catechized from the pulpit, not from “religious ed” programs. The fortunate few had the additional benefit of Catholic education. For the majority, however, the pulpit and the Mass itself were the primary “catechizers.”

The shift to “homilies” brought with it an emphasis on the readings for the day’s liturgy. If the readings aren’t being explained, the preacher is judged as “doing his own thing.” Sermons, on the other hand, can be about whatever the priest believes his congregation needs to hear. The Council of Trent actually gave an outline of sermon topics that a priest should cover throughout the year, e.g., articles of the creed, the sacraments, etc. This is what was done in the past. “Homilies” that are restricted by the contents of the day’s reading will almost guarantee that real catechesis will never take place. An orderly presentation of the Faith is not contained in Scripture.

Obviously, the Faith IS found in Scripture, but unless there is the option to present true catechesis, i.e., education in the doctrines and beliefs of the Faith, all we get is (for the most part) amateur exegesis from the latest scripture “scholars” read by the priest.

I, too, have noticed that, in the two years since I have been attending Mater Dei, I have learned more about my Faith JUST FROM THE SERMONS than I did in the three years wasted in the Institute of Religious and Pastoral Studies Program (now School of Ministry) at the University of Dallas.

Replace “homilies” with sermons and there’s at least a CHANCE that there will be a renewal of catechesis among the faithful. (This is presuming, of course, that the priests themselves are sufficiently well catechized, about which there is legitimate room to doubt).

In the past, Catholics went to Mass and learned both their Faith AND what the Mass was all about, just by going to Mass. Today, Catholics go to Mass and learn almost nothing about either the Faith OR the Mass. What does that tell you? Personally, I’ve concluded that the Novus Ordo isn’t capable of either inspiring or sustaining a mature Catholic Faith. What unbeliever would ever enter a typical Novus Ordo Mass and get the idea that they were at Calvary? Examples abound of converts in the past who were overwhelmed with wonder and awe when they entered a Catholic Church where Mass was being offered and celebrated. Who hears stories like that today?

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