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Patrick Madrid to speak at Mater Dei in Irving Sept. 8 August 27, 2012

Posted by Tantumblogo in awesomeness, Basics, Dallas Diocese, fun, General Catholic, Latin Mass, persecution, sickness, Society, Virtue.

Noted Catholic speaker Patrick Madrid will be giving a presentation at Mater Dei parish in Irving, TX on Friday, September 8 at 7pm.  It costs $11,500 to get in the door.  I’m just kidding!  I believe it’s free.  The topic is the “Godless Delusion: A Critique of Modern Atheism.”  I must say,  atheism needs a great deal of critiquing.

It should be a good talk.  The description reads as follows:

In recent years, militant atheists have been stepping up their attacks on belief the existence of God using books, the media, the Internet, etc., to shake the faith of believers. This talk offers a robust philosophical critique of the central atheist presupposition: Naturalism, the worldview which holds that everything that exists is material and, therefore, nothing immaterial (such as God, angels, human souls) can possibly exist. After listening to this seminar, Catholics can effectively respond to and refute typical atheist arguments in a way that is charitable yet uncompromising.

Go get equipped to fight militant atheism and defend the Faith!

PS – All men must have mustaches to enter.


1. lionelandrades - August 27, 2012

Patrick Madrid, it’s irrational!


Patrick Madrid and Peter Vere on EWTN are not saying that invincible ignorance etc are not exceptions to the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus.Instead they have put out a book against the Society of St.Pius X (SSPX).

Peter Vere is up to his nose in the Cushing error. See here.(1).He says.
Having said that, let us move to the larger question. It is clear from the Catechism of the Catholic Church (CCC) promulgated by Pope John Paul II that the Church currently promotes aless exclusive understanding of the dogma “Outside the Church no salvation” (EENS) as well asthe effects of desire for baptism (BOD) and pre-baptismal martyrdom for the faith (BOB). Lest I be accused of bias in my canonical opinion, I want to note up-front that I personally accept the teaching on these issues outlined in the CCC.
Vere means he has ‘a less exclusive understanding of the dogma’ because he interprets BOD and BOB as known exceptions to the dogma.

It is only God who can judge who has been saved with BOD and BOB.So BOD and BOB are not relevant to the dogma.If Cardinal Richard Cushing and the Letter of the Holy Office assumed that they were relevant to the dogma, it was an objective mistake. We do not know any case on earth.

Instead of correcting this mistake Patrick Madrid and Peter Vere are criticising the SSPX as extremists and they are posing as liberals.For them being saved in invincible ignorance and the baptism of desire are known exceptions to the dogma? This is his interpretation of the Catechism of the Catholic Church?

According to Canon Law can we be a Catholic when we reject the defined dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus and also Vatican council II (AG 7) with claims of being able to see the dead -saved, in invincible ignorance etc who are exceptions to the dogma? This is heresy and they are earning a living on it-Lionel Andrades


tantamergo - August 27, 2012

I had no idea Madrid espoused such views, but I do know that to have a job on EWTN, you can’t take a hard, traditional stance on Extra Ecclesiam Nulla Salus. Interesting….

2. Raul De La Garza III (@raul_delagarza) - August 27, 2012

Very nice. I hope to make it out there. I have for a long time believed that the philosophy or belief system that is the most challenging for the Church is not Protestantism but rather atheism. Protestantism is dead or dying. It is of little consequence. Course, one could argue that one led to the other.

This is very timely.

3. cori - August 29, 2012

isn’t sept 8th a saturday? so, is he going to be there fri or sat? sorry to bug you.

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