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Texas secession petition at White House website has over 100,000 signatures November 14, 2012

Posted by Tantumblogo in Basics, Dallas Diocese, demographics, fun, General Catholic, silliness, Society.
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Dang – I signed it!  I’d rather be a citizen of the great nation of Texas than the USA right about now.  You can sign it here, if you think jack booted thugs won’t come bursting through your windows at 2 in the morning.   I used a fakey reserve e-mail I have, not that it would help much.  Apparently, almost 700,000 other Americans (as of this morning) had signed similar petitions for their state:

Less than a week after a New Orleans suburbanite petitioned the White House to allow Louisiana to secede from the United States, petitions from seven states have collected enough signatures to trigger a promised review from the Obama administration.

By 6:00 a.m. EST Wednesday, more than 675,000 digital signatures appeared on 69 separate secession petitions covering all 50 states, according to a Daily Caller analysis of requests lodged with the White House’s “We the People” online petition system.

I think the division in this country, it’s becoming too much.  Things are going to break.  Half the country wants absolutely nothing to do with the other half.  And we’re pretty regionally split. As in they have the cities/coasts, and we have everything else.  In nuclear warfighting, that was how things were divided – the ‘A’ country of cities where the elites live, and the ‘B’ country of everyone else.  In a nuclear war, the plan was always to save the ‘B’ country, since we knew the ‘A’ country would be gone.  Just sayin……..

But counter petitions from lefty-ish cities in Texas like Austin and El Paso are demanding the right to secede from Texas if we secede from the union.

Balkanization…….it’s a lefty trend.

Still, it would be interesting to see a few million names on a petition to secede.  What then?  Texas is soon to have a majority Catholic population.  Or, at least, catholyc.  So……?

Comments

1. JLG - November 15, 2012

I signed it yesterday. I was always taught that the order of life is God, family, Texas, and then the USA. If something is not good for Texas, it’s not good for America! It’s hard to believe with the way Mexico is now, that when Texas was opened up for colonization of Americans, one of the requirements for moving to SFA’s settlement was that you had to convert to Catholicism.

Steven - November 15, 2012

I doubt the good people of Texas have thought through all the issues. There are a great many things that would need to happen before the final day of Texas leaving the Union. These are some of the more superficial ones that I see no one addressing.
1. All military bases shut down with the loss of more than 100,000 jobs and four of the largest military towns losing millions of dollars in government funding.
2. All public schools closed and restructured with the new constitution of the Nation of Texas, with the loss of 7 major campuses and more millions in federal funds.
3. The closure of every federal government office buildings and the loss of over another 100,000 jobs and more millions of lost federal monies.
4. All citizens will have to surrender their Social Security numbers and the closure of all of the facilities involved with taxes and issuance of federal support.
5. all federal court cases, judges, Rangers, and border patrol facilities closed and relocated out of Texas.
6. Loss of revenue from the dissolved national and American league sports to include college level sports teams, which is easily over 2 billion a year.
7. Automatic disenrollment of all retirees from their benefits unless a dual citizenship is established.
8. Manufacturers that receive government support through federal IRA’s and other retirement plans surrendered.
9. The loss of FDA control in the food surplus program and the closure of all national banks. Good luck getting your money from them.
and finally
10. How many millions/billions is the new government of Texas going to repay the federal government for the land that they purchased in the 1800’s?
So there you have a barely scratched surface of 10 problems and a very wide view of 100’s of billions in lost monies to the Texas Nation. Let’s not forget the flood of immigrants that will swarm all over the Mexico border line the minute that you lose the backing of the US military.

Old School Gamer Dad - November 15, 2012

All this and more is answered via the good folks who are a part of the Texas Nationlist movement.

tantamergo - November 15, 2012

There are a number of errors in your assumptions right off the top. Whether leaving the union would be a net cost or savings would depend on a huge number of factors, and there is nothing to say that most of the above have to happen as you describe them. First of all, there has never been a land cost assessment regarding lands that belong to the various states. I don’t even know where you pulled that from.

The post was kind of tongue in cheek. Don’t feel so threatened.

Old School Gamer Dad - November 15, 2012

May Austin and El Paso fall off the face of the earth for all I care. It is our right as Texans to further subdivide the state into 5 more states if we so desired. El Paso can be the capital of East Texas, Austin of Central Texas, Dallas of North, San Antonio or Houston of South and Texarkana of West. Either way, I doubt that the Union would care to consider the ramifications of adding 8 more senators into the U.S. Senate. That could be a good thing, after all…

2. servo - November 15, 2012

Doubt if Texas can be salvaged at this point. Latinos have the bigtime birth rates, and by and large they just want free goodies from Democrats. And then you have the geek-hipster-atheist axis of stupidity being imported from Silicon Valley. My meaningless, pulled-from-rear guess is that Hillary will compete there next time around, or in 2020.

Old School Gamer Dad - November 15, 2012

As a fellow Latino, I am ashamed by your answer. The truth is, 71% of hispanics, if the reports are to be believed, were responsible for voting back in America’s version of a proto-Calles. The continuing destruction of life, liberty and marriage in these United States is something Latinos will have to answer for.

Old School Gamer Dad - November 15, 2012

“Where you see apocalypse, I see hope…”

So ready to give up the fight, are you? Texans don’t need folks such as that. Meditate on the memory of Colonel Travis and repent of your despair.

servo - November 15, 2012

You’re a funny one. I like you.

Old School Gamer Dad - November 15, 2012

It’s a gift. 😉

servo - November 15, 2012

Sorry Gamer, that snide comment was meant to be aimed at our interlocutor. I like you too though 🙂

3. Jp - November 15, 2012

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4. Mariano Mendez - November 15, 2012

For nearly a century, we have been trying to do just that in Puerto Rico, leave you. It never occurred to any of us that the only thing we needed to do was sign a petition. Brilliant.

Old School Gamer Dad - November 15, 2012

I am first and foremost, a faithful son of the Catholic Church, second I am a proud Tejano along the lines of Juan Seguin of blessed memory, and in the last place I am an American. Furthermore, I don’t much care what those outside my state and much less outside the Union think about Texans’ desire to leave this same Union which has already pretty much left us. I will join the Texas Nationalist movement and to paraphrase Congressman Crocket, I will stay in Texas and the rest may go to hell. Secede or die.

servo - November 15, 2012

If you’re indicative of the average Puerto Rican, then please, please go your own way with your goofy ramblings about Hitler and rabbit breeders or whatever the heck you’re going on about.

Old School Gamer Dad - November 15, 2012

Hear! Hear!

servo - November 15, 2012

And before somebody tosses out a ‘LULZ U H8 PUERTO RICANS 2,’ it was intended as a mere wisecrack. I suspect the average person down there isn’t that goofy.

Old School Gamer Dad - November 15, 2012

Idiot comments and ill-informed. An ever increasing and troubling development in these latter days. It seems your compatriots have decided that they would love to become a willing participant in the Union, http://www.dailytitan.com/2012/11/puerto-rico-votes-to-become-51st-state/

So much for leaving. You are pratically running into the ‘loving’ embrace of the Union.

tantamergo - November 15, 2012

Busting in the blog, talking about humping, etc., not a good start.

This is your only warning, tone it down.

5. disnas - November 16, 2012

Hmmm.

Try this: http://www.angelicopress.com/

Liberty: The God That Failed
Christopher Ferrara

Since the Vietnam War I have known that there was something fundamentally awry.

Since becoming a Catholic I have realized that the problem is that the USA is not a Christian country – neither in the broad sense nor (even less so) in the strict sense. Reading some of the old social encyclicals just reinforced this.

But this book raises this awareness to an entirely different level. If the light, in the case of this issue, was flickering before, I think it is burning pretty brightly now.

I have been a “constitutionalist,” while recognizing that the Constitution is flawed because of its failure to submit the country to God, but thinking all along that at least by following the Constitution, people would be protected in the material sense. Now I can no longer hold that position.

I have always been a proponent of Texas secession – since the 70s, actually. Before reading this book I came to the belief that, most likely, even with secession, it would be more of the same. Reading this book, I now realize that “more of the same” is inevitable, unless the founding documents are fundamentally changed.

I love political discussion, and have since I was a young boy. I took a bachelor’s degree in political science. But now I think that to have any sort of really productive political discussion, one has to be discussing with someone else who is aware of what this book will teach you.

And I believe this holds true for any country today. The USA is simply the first and oldest example of the phenomenon we see repeating itself with astounding rapidity in country after country. The USA was the laboratory.

Raul De La Garza III (@raul_delagarza) - November 16, 2012

Agreed, however, I would hold an even more grim view and analysis. John Adams is quoted famously stating, “Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other.” Simply revising the documents will not be enough. We must fundamentally transform the citizenry to once again respect the Creator and following that become moral and virtuous else any further experiment in self-governance shall be doomed to fail.

Raul De La Garza III (@raul_delagarza) - November 16, 2012

Another fascinating quote along these same lines comes from John’s cousin, “A general dissolution of the principles and manners will more surely overthrow the liberties of America than the whole force of the common enemy.

While the people are virtuous they cannot be subdued; but once they lose their virtue, they will be ready to surrender their liberties to the first external or internal invader.

If we would enjoy this gift of Heaven, let us become a virtuous people.” Samuel Adams, as Governor of Massachusetts, wrote February 12, 1779.

disnas - November 17, 2012

Raul – get the above book and take a gander at what the Adams’ really thought – especially about Catholicism.


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