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What our Lord revealed to Saints regarding homosexual acts December 12, 2012

Posted by Tantumblogo in Basics, disaster, error, General Catholic, horror, Interior Life, sadness, scandals, sexual depravity, sickness, Society.

In some cases, this was direct inspiration – literally, the Saint beholding a vision where the information was communicated – in other cases, the inspiration was less direct. Nonetheless, throughout the history of the Church, our Blessed Lord has been very consistent on the issue of homosexuality – it is gravely, gravely offensive to Him, one of the most offensive sins there is.

The following were pulled from this Tan Books site.

Saint Catherine of Siena, a religious mystic of the 14th century, relays words St_ Catherine of Siena Gladbach
of Our Lord Jesus Christ about the vice against nature, which contaminated part
of the clergy in her time. Referring to sacred ministers, He says: “They not
only fail from resisting this frailty [of fallen human nature] . . . but do even
worse as they commit the cursed sin against nature. Like the blind and stupid,
having dimmed the light of their understanding, they do not recognize the
disease and misery in which they find themselves. For this not only causes Me
nausea, but displeases even the demons themselves, whom these miserable
creatures have chosen as their lords. For Me, this sin against nature is so
abominable that, for it alone, five cities were submersed, by virtue of the
judgment of My Divine Justice, which could no longer bear them. . . .

Saint Bernardine of Siena, a preacher of the fifteenth century, makes an accurate psychological analysis of the consequences of the homosexual vice. The illustrious Franciscan writes: “No sin has greater power over the soul than the one of cursed sodomy, which was always detested by all those who lived according to God. . . . Such passion for undue forms borders on madness. This vice disturbs the intellect, breaks an elevated and generous state of soul, drags great thoughts to petty ones, makes [men] pusillanimous and irascible, obstinate and hardened, servilely soft and incapable of anything. Furthermore, the will, being agitated by the insatiable drive for pleasure, no longer follows reason, but furor. . . . Someone who lived practicing the vice of sodomy will suffer more pains in Hell than anyone else, because this is the worst sin that there is.”

Saint Albert the Great gives four reasons why he considers homosexual acts as the most detestable ones: They are born from an ardent frenzy; they are disgustingly foul; those who become addicted to them are seldom freed from that vice; they are as contagious as disease, passing quickly from one person to another. [I think the allusion to addiction is a most apropos one. Experience has also shown that it is very, very difficult for those who fall into this sin to overcome it]

…the Fifth Lateran Council [1512-1517] decrees: Let any member of the clergy
caught in that vice against nature . . . be removed from the clerical order or tertullian
forced to do penance in a monastery (chap. 4, X, V, 31). “So that the contagion
of such a grave offense may not advance with greater audacity, taking advantage
of impunity, which is the greatest incitement to sin, and so as to more severely
punish the clerics who are guilty of this nefarious crime and who are not
frightened by the death of their souls, We determine that they should be handed
over to the secular authority, which enforces civil law. Therefore, wishing to
pursue with the greatest rigor that which We have decreed since the beginning of
Our Pontificate, We establish that any priest or member of the clergy, either
secular or regular, who commits such an execrable crime, by force of the present
law be deprived of every clerical privilege, of every post, dignity and
ecclesiastical benefit, and having been degraded by an ecclesiastical judge, be
immediately delivered to the secular authority to be executed as mandated by
law, according to the appropriate punishment for laymen plunged in this abyss.”

The Code of Canon Law undertaken at the initiative and encouragement of Saint Pius X, and published in 1917 by his successor Pope Benedict XV, says this: “So far as laymen are concerned, the sin of sodomy is punished ipso facto with the pain of infamy and other sanctions to be applied according to the prudent judgment of the Bishop depending on the gravity of each case (Can. 2357). As for ecclesiastics and religious, if they are clerici minoris [that is, of a degree lower than deacon], let them be punished with various measures, proportional to the gravity of the fault, that can even include dismissal from the clerical state (Can. 2358); if they are clerici maiores [that is, deacons, priests or bishops], let them ‘be declared infamous and suspended from every post, benefit, dignity, deprived of their eventual stipend and, in the gravest cases, let them be deposed’ (Can. 2359, par. 2).”

[I had no idea about these last two ideas from a Church C0uncil and the Code of Canon Law. If such were enforced today, the Church in this country would lose half its priests.  That is still preferable to the ongoing scandal and destruction of souls with the current situation, where whole dioceses are lost to this terrible sin]

Tertullian, the great apologist of the Church in the second century, writes: “All other frenzies of lusts which exceed the laws of nature and are impious toward both bodies and the sexes we banish . . . from all shelter of the Church, for they are not sins so much as monstrosities.”

And Tertullian lived in a time and place where, we are told, such acts were rampant!

I think it should be obvious from the above, in addition to the dozen-plus denounciations of this grave sin in Scripture, that the the Church has always been opposed to this act.  In the past, the Church was also quite a bit harsher with those who committed these acts, since, in spite of the saying, it’s very hard to separate the sin from the sinner, especially in cases like these.

But, of course……we are so very much more enlightened now.


1. Woody - December 12, 2012

It takes a very strong stomache to look into what homosexuals do to each other to satisfy their sexual desire. Especially male homosexuals. If you can get through that, it is very easy to see why the Church condemns such acts. To rationalize the behavior as love is only a facade. There is a reason that such acts call to heaven for vengence.

tantamergo - December 12, 2012

Have you seen the latest outrage? In San Francisco, there is a group of nudists, almost entirely gay men, who are demanding the right to be nude in public (of course, they wear shoes). They are going around the Castro district (gay HQ in SF), in groups of 10, 20, 30 sometimes more, jumping in front of cars, getting in people’s faces, and especially assaulting families with young children, waving their equipment in people’s faces and demanding affirmation of how transgressive they are. It’s sick. There are pictures on PJ media of a poor little kid and his mom with a bunch of naked gay guys getting in their faces and shouting at them. It’s horrific. But, it being SF, some sickos voluntarily brought their kids to see this ongoing nighmare (these events are occurring with more and more regularity).

Any society that would even contemplate tolerating such a thing doesn’t deserve to exist anymore. We are running down the time to a nightmarish chastisement, very quickly.

2. Patt - December 13, 2012

Archbishop Sheen once stated that one of the signs of demonic activity is nudity. Christians cannot attend homosexual festivals nor celebrations–they are so vulgar and vile. Very disturbing..

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