There are some really badly formed American Catholics February 22, 2013
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And in other news, the sun rose today, Antarctica is cold, and the ocean is salty. But there were some things to pick out of this obviously push-pollling bit of reportage from the generally poor Orlando Sentinel:
As the pontificate of Benedict XVI winds down, many American Catholics express a desire for change, according to a new survey report by the Pew Research Center. For example, most Catholics say it would be good if the next pope allows priests to marry.[The way this is reported is just so wrong – priests have never, ever, been allowed to marry once they took Holy Orders. There have, however, been men already married who were allowed to become priests, and still are in Eastern Rites, a very problematic practice as they themselves will tell you. The data below is confusing, but, apparently, 58% of people who call themselves Catholic in this country think “priests should be allowed to marry.” I haven’t bothered to find the original poll to see how the question was asked, but if really asked in that manner…..wow. We have so much work to do. How can we reach these people?] And fully six-in-ten Catholics say it would be good if the next pope hails from a developing region like South America, Asia or Africa. [whoop-dee-fricking-do. A Pope shouldn’t be chosen because he has a certain skin color or a certain ethnicity – it just shows how secularized people’s understanding of the Papacy has become]
At the same time, many Catholics also express appreciation for the traditions of the Roman Catholic Church. While about half of U.S. Catholics (46%) say the next pope should “move the church in new directions,” the other half (51%) say the new pope should “maintain the traditional positions of the church.” And among Catholics who say they attend Mass at least once a week, nearly two-thirds (63%) want the next pope to maintain the church’s traditional positions. [Only 2/3? And remember, when it comes to virtuous or “expected” behavior, people to over-report their virtuousity. But, it may be right, who knows. Today’s Catholics are so horribly catechized anything is possible]
These are among the key findings of a new report by the Pew Research Center’s Forum on Religion & Public Life based on two national surveys conducted Feb. 13-18. Additional findings include:
……Benedict’s handling of the sex abuse scandal. U.S. Catholics voice dissatisfaction with Benedict’s handling of the sex abuse scandal in the church. Among Catholics who say they followed news of the pontiff’s resignation, nearly two-thirds (63%) think he has done a poor or “only fair” job of addressing the sex abuse scandal, while 33% give him excellent or good ratings for his handling of the issue. U.S. Catholics are more negative in their views on this question now than in 2008; immediately following the pope’s 2008 visit to the U.S., 49% gave Benedict good or excellent ratings for his handling of this issue……..[This primarily shows how catechized people are by the media. If they have ire towards how the homosexuals raping pubescent boys scandal has been handled, they should direct it far more at the USCCB and their local Ordinary – in most cases – than the Holy See. If it weren’t for Pope Benedict, many of these monsters would still be in circulation]
……..Maintain traditional positions or move in new directions? Among U.S. Catholics who say they attend Mass at least once a week, nearly two-thirds (63%) say the new pope should maintain the traditional positions of the church, while about one-third (35%) say the new pope should move the church in new directions. [who knows what they mean by this] By contrast, among those who attend Mass less often [that is, “Catholics” persisting manifestly in a state of mortal sin] , 54% say the next pope should move in new directions while 42% prefer to maintain the church’s traditional positions. [If you asked these people 100 questions related to the Traditions of the Faith, how many would they get right?]
New directions Catholics would like to see the church go. In response to an open-ended question, about one-in-five U.S. Catholics who think the next pope should move the church in new directions say simply that the church should become more modern (19%).[Please. If the Church gets anymore modern, it will be a Picasso painting] And 15% want the next pope to do more to end sex abuse in the church and punish the priests involved. [Then support traditional, orthodox priests, religious, and vocations] In addition, upwards of one-in-five mention issues regarding the priesthood, including 14% who say priests should be allowed to marry [once again, this reveals an ignorance so intense it is amazing. It has never been permitted for men who have taken Holy Orders to marry, at least not in the last 1800 years or so] and 9% who say women should be allowed to serve in the priesthood. [another impossibility] Others mention a desire to see the church become more accepting and open in general (14%), and an additional 9% say they want to see the church become more accepting of homosexuality and gay marriage in particular. Of Catholics who want a pope who will move the church in new directions, 7% specifically mention birth control, mainly indicating a desire for a lessening of the church’s opposition to the use of contraception.
I’m actually surprised at how low some of those numbers are. I figured they’d be much higher for things like contraception and state recognition of homosexuals living together as marriage.
Some nice tributes to our soon to be departed Holy Father February 22, 2013
Posted by Tantumblogo in Art and Architecture, awesomeness, Basics, General Catholic, Glory, Papa, sadness.comments closed
It feels so macabre to say that……”our soon to be departed Holy Father.” It’s like a statement of impending death. I guess it is, of sorts. Some nice tributes I picked up on JP Sonnen’s website:
I think I favor plainchant over polyphony. I especially like ancient chant. Glorious.
Non sequitur – Heavy going fo French forces in Mali February 22, 2013
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Some may not be aware, but there has been a rather nasty “civil war” in Mali, if you call largely foreign islamist insurgents attacking and attempting to take over the country a civil war (I know there was a civil war aspect in the first half of 2012, but once the islamists, seeing their chance in a divided Mali, became involved, they have been the dominant factor in the fighting ever since) ongoing there for over a year. Earlier this year, the French – who used to govern what is now Mali as part of French Northwest Africa – intervened, when it looked like the islamists just might win. French military power – which is somewhat significant compared with africans running around with RPGs and AKs – rapidly transformed a failing military situation into one of great dominance for the Malian government. But after clearing the islamists from most of the country, including the ancient, culturally rich city of Timbuktu, the islamists have now struck back with their favored tactics, hit-and-run terror attacks, and this could be a long, unpleasant counterinsurgency. A few days ago in the SE city of Gao, the French were having a hard go of it with a determined band of islamists:
There are bad things like this going on all over the world. We are involved in this conflict, supplying heavy strategic airlift and almost the entire aerial tanker force so the French can be supplied and have airpower in theater. Obama has also deployed a Predator unit to provide overhead surveillance, because the French, like most of the Europeans, have huge gaps in military capability when it comes to things like drones, airlift (instead of buying the far more capable and similar cost C-17, the French and some other European nations have spent 20 years trying to develop their own “strategic” airlifter, which is only slightly more capable than a C-130 at only three times the cost!), tankers, strategic reconaissance, datalinks, combat-capable communication systems……well, the list goes on for quite a while. Most European militaries are “show” militaries with a few actual, deployable units. The French are better than most, but a very long way from US capability.
The reason for this is that the Europeans have a 40-50 year head start on us on socialism, and almost all monies are directed to that end, and their militaries have been terribly underfunded, especially since 1990. Their militaries can bring some nice capabilities, but almost always need US logistic support to make it happen.
The APC in the video is a VBCI, the new French wheeled APC, firing a 25mm x 37 cannon. The troops fired an AT-4 rocket at the insurgents (the tube looking device). French troops are equipped with the FAMAS bullpup type rifle. Meh.
Ah, well, it’s Friday
The Brazen Clericalism of Cardinal Mahony February 22, 2013
Posted by Tantumblogo in asshatery, Basics, episcopate, error, foolishness, General Catholic, scandals, self-serving, sexual depravity, sickness, Society.comments closed
One of the tiresome progressive critiques of the Church prior to Vatican II is that a clericalist mindset dominated, with the lay people treated like little children and being told to shut up, pray, pay and obey, and to do whatever the priests said. It is ironic, then, that this same mentality seems to have permeated itself so deeply into the progressives themselves, which I have personally experienced. Who am I to dare criticize, or even express concerns to, Bishop X or Father Y? Many liberal prelates like Weakland have been renowned for having a very thin skin. George Neumayr has a post examining Cardinal Mahony’s reaction to the rather slight action taken against him by Archbishop Gomez, and what he feels is a raging clericalism in operation:
As archbishop of Los Angeles, Roger Mahony was famous for his petulance, dispatching angry letters to priests and others whom he considered insufficiently deferential. But now that he finds himself in a subordinate position as a retired and rebuked bishop he displays none of the deference he once demanded.
No sooner had his successor stripped him of his diocese-wide “administrative” and “public” duties than the cardinal took to his “blog” to pout over the demotion through a snubbing letter. Hinting at a powerful faction of Los Angeles movers and shakers behind him while adopting a tone of passive-aggressive innocence, Cardinal Mahony wrote on his blog that “others” had “encouraged” him to publicize his letter to Archbishop Jose Gomez. “I hope you find it useful,” he said.
The letter was designed to embarrass, undercut, and scare his successor: “When you were formally received as our Archbishop on May 26, 2010, you began to become aware of all that had been done here over the years for the protection of children and youth. You became our official Archbishop on March 1, 2011 and you were personally involved with the Compliance Audit of 2012—again, in which we were deemed to be in full compliance. Not once over these past years did you ever raise any questions about our policies, practices, or procedures in dealing with the problem of clergy sexual misconduct involving minors.”
Sadly, Cardinal Mahony’s bullying seems to have worked at some level. Archbishop Gomez would have been justified in strengthening his original rebuke after this appalling letter (not to mention defending himself against its insinuations and fallacious misdirection). Instead, Archbishop Gomez has given some ground to him, writing to Los Angeles priests recently: “I am confident that Cardinal Mahony’s accomplishments and experience in the areas of immigration, social justice, sacred liturgy and the role of the laity in the church will serve the College of Cardinals well as it works to discern the will of the Holy Spirit in these deliberations that will lead to the election of our new pope.”
This is odd and unjustified praise for a cardinal who is principally known for secularizing the liturgy, blowing up at Mother Angelica, habitually defying papal directives on lay ministry, and routinely mistaking “social justice” for his own personal views in favor of socialism and amnesty. How could any of this “experience” possibly serve the College of Cardinals in its deliberations?………
……..Cardinal Mahony’s clericalist habits are so ingrained that it wouldn’t occur to him that his behavior constitutes an open scandal. He has long confused his perceived personal good with the good of the Church and can’t stop himself now, even though his straining attempts at vindication open the Church up to enormous ridicule during the conclave, a problem that has led at least one Italian cardinal to suggest he sit it out. In an ecclesiastical culture that prized the salvation of souls over a bogus “collegiality” (which usually means letting derelict bishops repair their images and preserve their privileges at the expense of the Church’s common good), such spectacles of egotism would be unthinkable.
Back when the very editorial boards now condemning his participation in the conclave were calling for Cardinal Bernard Law’s demotion, where was Cardinal Mahony? He was eagerly joining the media’s cries for accountability, telling reporters exactly what they wanted to hear: that “he would find it difficult to walk down an aisle in church if he had been guilty of gross negligence.” Now that he finds himself on the receiving end of Law-like coverage, he is crying foul, taking to his blog to play the victim in a series of “Lenten” reflections on his Christ-like suffering. He says that he is working hard to “forgive” his critics.
“Given all of the storms that have surrounded me and the Archdiocese of Los Angeles recently, God’s grace finally helped me to understand: I am not being called to serve Jesus in humility. Rather, I am being called to something deeper—to be humiliated, disgraced, and rebuffed by many,” he wrote.
But he could have accepted Archbishop Gomez’s rebuke and adopted a low profile, in which case this scrutiny would have faded. Instead, he increased his visibility by parrying with Archbishop Gomez, by defying his demotion, and by issuing a stream of non-apology apologies sure to inflame victims, all the while “tweeting” and blogging as if the Los Angeles abuse scandal never occurred.
And now he wonders why he is a target? The public’s anger is simply a response to his clericalist clawing to power.
One thing I am certain of, we have not heard the last of Roger Mahony. That man loves the limelight.
And I will say, Neumayr is right, Mahony is STILL writing on his blog about how he is suffering so, quoting heretic Fr. Ron Rolheiser to show how he has embraced his humiliation – which all could be taken as a subtle PR campaign being waged against Archbishop Gomez, which I think it is. What a cad.
Homosexual cabal in Vatican the “real reason” for the Pope’s resigcation? February 22, 2013
Posted by Tantumblogo in abdication of duty, Basics, disaster, episcopate, error, General Catholic, horror, priests, sadness, scandals, sexual depravity, unadulterated evil.comments closed
This sounds a bit to pat and convenient for me, although the revelation of the depths of disorder in the Curia – of which I have no doubt whatsoever – may have played a role. It is being reported that the investigation into the Vatileaks scandal concluded last December and presented to Pope Benedict found very disturbing evidence of corrupt curial officials who were engaged in both theft and homosexual depravity. The last bit has been known for some time, in 2010 an Italian paper followed priests from the Diocese of Rome and the Curia around with a hidden camera to Roman gay baths and got video of them breaking their priestly vows of celibacy in the worst ways. For all the good he did, it does not appear Pope Benedict was able to rein in the runaway Curia that developed under Blessed Pope John Paul II:
The Vatican has refused to comment on Italian press reports that an internal report on the “Vatileaks” scandal might have influenced the decision by Pope Benedict XVI to resign.
The daily La Repubblica reported that in their report to the Pope, a commission of 3 cardinals investigating the leaked papal documents had found evidence of a homosexual network within the Vatican, and hinted at the possibility that some Vatican officials were subject to blackmail…..
….Father Lombardi said that the three cardinals had submitted their report privately to Pope Benedict, and it would be passed on to his successor. The three prelates who investigated the “Vatileaks” scandal and prepared a thorough report—Cardinals Julian Herranz, Jozef Tomko, and Salvatore De Giorgi—will not be giving interviews or divulging details regarding the contents of the report, he said. Cardinal Herranz, who chaired the commission, confirmed: “The Pope is the only person we have reported to on this question.”
La Repubblica claimed that in a lengthy report on the leaks, the cardinals had alerted the Pontiff to the existence of factions within the Roman Curia, including a powerful faction “united by sexual orientation.” Some members of that bloc, the cardinals reportedly said, may be vulnerable to “external influence” because of their activities. The Italian newspaper said that the report shocked Pope Benedict and contributed to his decision to resign. [details released elsewhere made clear that these officials HAD been blackmailed, not merely that they were vulnerable to it]
Ignazio Ingrao, who covers the Vatican for Panorama magazine, backed the report by La Repubblica. He said that the cardinals’ commission disclosed “a network of alliances and acts of blackmail of homosexual nature in several areas of the Curia.”
And it is also reported elsewhere that while there were separate networks tied to mob activites that used the Vatican bank to launder money, these homosexual cabals were deeply involved in the sins against the 7th Commandment, as well. Which only figures, if you’re going to enter the priesthood under false pretences, never having a true vocation, and use that convenient identity to commit all manner of sins in direct rejection of the Grace that should flow through a priest through Holy Orders and daily offering of the Mass, pretty much any sin is possible. As Fr. Oko described in his lengthy analysis of the crisis of homosexuals in the priesthood, men that have for so long rejected Grace and committed such horrific sins are almost impossible to convert back to a life of piety. This nest of vipers is deeply imbeded in the Church and it is going to take great fortitude and zeal to dig them out.
As to whether this revelation had an impact on the Holy Father’s decision to resigcate………I really don’t know. It was probably all of a piece. I still think the Muller imbroglio over the former Pontifical University of Peru had an impact, as well. I think he just looked at the chaos ongoing around him and said “enough!”