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No, Cardinal Dolan is not being patiently prudent in failing to publicly condemn NY Gov. Cuomo May 21, 2013

Posted by Tantumblogo in abdication of duty, Abortion, Basics, contraception, disaster, episcopate, error, foolishness, General Catholic, scandals, secularism, self-serving, the return.

I posted on NYC Cardinal Dolan’s latest failure to defend the Faith last week.  This story, wherein Cardinal Dolan stated he would “talk turkey” with NY Governor Andrew Cuomo over the governor’s repeated heresy, even apostasy, and then quickly walked back even this – it wasn’t even criticism, was it? – implication of concern with the governor, stating through a proxy that Cuomo remained “a Catholic in good standing?”  Good Lord, who is not, then, a Catholic in good standing?  Judging from this, I am virtually certain Cardinal Dolan subscribes to the papally condemned theory of universal or near-universal salvation, the so-called “fundamental option.” There is no other way to explain his behavior, unless he is just a radically indifferent modernist, which is just cuomo_dolane18779f4-d237-4b75-bd16-230a86b58cc4another way of saying the same thing.

Over at Acts of the Apostasy, I saw a soul who, I think, with very misplaced charity and sense of obedience, defended Cardinal Dolan’s actions as being patient and prudent. I  profoundly disagree, and replied with the following:

There is patience, and then there is scandalous indifference. Let us see what Andrew Cuomo has done just in the past few years: helped ram through a radical redefinition of marriage, essentially destroying marriage as it has been known for thousands of years, with the aid of a New York Catholic Church that effectively neutered itself in the debate. He’s been a stalwart champion of baby murder, to the extent that whereas abortion is being rolled back by small efforts around the country, his state is planning the largest expansion of abortion access in the nation.  And, he continues to live with a concubine who is not his wife, and his former marriage was never annuled. He also routinely undermines moral behavior in scads of other areas, all the while receiving the Blessed Sacrament, even from the very hands of bishops.

cuomo-dolan-8a5d795cba1d5085Failing to discipline this man, publicly, is not prudent patience. It is a massive failure of leadership which actually encourages Cuomo (and so many like him) to remain in his sins (which, if he were to die, his chances of salvation, objectively speaking, would be grim at best), causes scandal and confusion to millions of souls trying to be faithful, and endangers the shepherd’s own soul due to his disastrous failure to defend the Faith and use all the tools the Church has available to bring souls back to the right practice of the Faith. There is a word for this disastrous situation: scandal. Dolan’s action and inaction are the very definition of scandal.

This is not even debateable. Private “dialogue” while public sin continues, causing untold damage to souls, is a totally insufficient response. It is so insufficient as to be damnable, in the sense that lay Catholics have the right and duty to point out the Cardinal Archbishop’s failure. It is profoundly imprudent and uncharitable to leave souls mired in sin, and use only very small, politically safe means to try to redress the situation – if he even does that.  We have only the Cardinal’s word that he actually engages with Cuomo on his manifestly sinful behavior – and we have the continuing scandal of the Cardinal dispensing the Blessed Sacrament to those objectively persisting in the state of grave sin.

When I think about how great Saints of the past behaved, the risks they took, the sufferings they endured, and then compare them to the current crop of alg-dolan-andrew-cuomo-jpgshepherds……it’s a very bleak comparison.  St. Anthony Marie Claret did not fear to publicly rebuke scandalous sinners in Cuba, he did not fear to use all the tools the Church has to bring souls back into the life of Grace, including interdict and excommunication. He got his face slashed for his trouble (the fact that he did not get his throat – the intended target – slit, was a minor miracle).  He was violently persecuted by the sinners in government there. There were constant threats on his life. But he persevered, because God makes the Grace available to all of us to be Saints.  It is our duty to cooperate with that Grace. For those who hold exalted offices in the Church, much more Grace is available, which is why the office of bishop has produced so many great Saints. But for decades, there have been very, very few men willing to cooperate with that Grace, it seems.  It is exceedingly difficult not to see in this failure a profound tendency to have greater concern for the opinions of men and worldly affairs than for Jesus Christ and the good of His Church.

I pray for the conversion and sanctification of our shepherds every day.

Thus ends my comment at Acts of the Apostasy.  But I will add a bit more.  I don’t like saying this, it’s a very ugly thing, but I think it needs to be said.  We’ve Obama-Dolan_0012had a couple years to know Cardinal Dolan now, and I think the conclusion is inescapable: he is a politician in roman collar.  His main or even secondary concern is not with the eternal destinies of souls, but his, and occasionally the Church’s, political position with all the “right” people.  The USCCB is a primarily political entity, and Cardinal Dolan strategizes and conducts his affairs with that in mind.  In most of the Western world, that is the case: the national episcopal conferences are primarily political entities, and that construct drives them to behave in ways that are very difficult to reconcile with the good of souls. Which is why I have argued for years that all these conferences – national, regional, international, whatever – need to be closed.  It’s all about souls, and these conferences have not proven good for them. And they have proven disastrous for the cohesion of the Doctrine of the Faith and the administation of discipline.

Shut them down.

UPDATE: I should have added that LarryD’s post at AoA was a re-post of Terry Nelson’s comments here regarding the hypocrisy of many in the “Church-approved” Catholic punditocracy, who won’t breathe a word of criticism regarding Dolan, because such could be death for their careers, but they have no problem calling out Lila Rose as a public sinner for the undercover anti-abortion stings LiveAction conducts.  Big surprise – those folks know who butters their bread, and they aren’t about to make them mad.  It’s much safer to pick on a lay woman.


1. tg - May 21, 2013

Agree with you. I ask our Lord and our Lady to give courage to our bishops. There’s so much scandal in the church. As far as Lila Rose, I support her. I see her as a spiritual operative, after all, aren’t we the church militant. I don’t care what Mark Shea says. I don’t read his blogs anymore because of his attitude with those that disagree with him and I think he’s a liberal as far as social programs. I think I read he doesn’t like capitalism.

2. Brian Schweiss - May 21, 2013

I had read some time ago (I don’t remember the source) that Gov. Cuomo was voluntarily refraining from receiving Holy Communion at Mass. I don’t know if that’s still the case? I hope he’s not, for his sake, and for a lot of other people’s sakes! 😦 I’m praying daily for Cardinal Dolan and all our Church leaders, along with Gov. Cuomo. I live in Illinois, where we have our own pro abortion and pro fake marriage “Catholic” Governor, Pat Quinn. 😦 It keeps me very busy praying my rosary beads every day! Also, please pray for us in the Chicago Archdiocese as we await Cardinal George’s eventual successor. Whoever he is, he will have a lot to deal with. God Bless! 🙂
Brian Schweiss

tantamergo - May 21, 2013

Cuomo received from the hand of Bishop Howard Hubbard last year at a special Mass for his inauguration.

3. Woody - May 21, 2013

Yeah but he has such a great sense of humor.

4. thelarryd - May 21, 2013

Thanks for the link!

Brian Schweiss - May 21, 2013

Tantamergo, wasn’t that the Mass where Bishop Hubbard basically “canonized” Gov. Cuomo, in regards to his so called wonderful ways in which he’s guiding the state of New York, and expressing hope for the future? (yuck!!!) And all this while Cuomo attended the Mass with his live-in girlfriend, who I believe also received Communion? 😦 I’m very much aware of Bishop Hubbard’s reputation in the Diocese of Albany. 😦 I know he turns 75 on October 31 and will submit his resignation to Pope Francis. I’m already praying for the man who will be chosen to be his successor, as he’ll have to try to resurrect the faith in that Diocese! Back to my rosaries! 🙂

Richard - May 21, 2013

I agree with you Brian. I’ve been praying that a coadjutor will be appointed for Albany by August 2013, and that it will be someone who is in the league of Bishop Finn (Kansas City-St. Joseph), Bishop Lennon (Cleveland), Bishop Carlson (appointed to Saginaw in 2004), Burbidge (Raleigh) or Bishop Vann (appointed to Fort Worth in 2005). These bishops listed above made headway in doing house cleaning in these dioceses.

I’m also praying that Rochester (NY) gets a bishop who is in the league of the ones I listed above. Rochester is also in dire need of cleaning house. It is sad that both Hubbard and Clark were chair sitters for 30+ years.

Another famous chair sitter was Gossman, who fortunately turned 75 in 2005, and was replaced fairly quickly by Bishop Burbidge. Burbidge started showing up at parishes unannounced, and began housecleaning. The number of seminarians in Raleigh went from 8 to 20 in about 5 years. Another change Burbidge made was no longer sending seminarians to St. Mary’s Seminary in Baltimore, which was known as “The Pink Palace”. Rochester and Albany have sent seminarians to “The Pink Palace.”

Brian Schweiss - May 22, 2013

Yes Richard, I’m also very aware of the situation in the Rochester Diocese as well. Right now, the “hot rumor” is that Chicago Auxiliary Bishop Joseph Perry (who I know is very solid, he says the Latin Mass) will be the next Rochester Bishop. Whoever it is will also have his hands full, but I know that God and the Blessed Mother will help him to do the best he can to clean up that Diocese! 🙂 So far, Pope Francis has made some decent U.S. Bishop appointments, and hopefully, that trend will continue. Keep praying! 🙂 And again, please pray for us here in the Chicago Archdiocese regarding Cardinal George’s eventual retirement, and for his successor, who will also have a heavy burden. God Bless! 🙂

5. skeinster - May 21, 2013

TCM did ‘Saint Movies” night a few days ago. All three of them were about martyrs: St. Joan of Arc, St. Peter and St. Thomas More.
Comparing them to our present hierarchy, I’d be discouraged, except that you can never discount grace. Prayers for our bishops and cardinals, and for any they lead into scandal.

6. Bill Bannon - May 22, 2013

Mindboggling….what if you’re in a Mexican cartel…still in good standing. Compare Christ making a whip and driving men out of the temple….versus Cardinal Dolan worrying if he offended. Pray he never becomes Pope…pray.

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