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Coup against Franciscans of the Immaculate because “crypto-Lefebvrian, always traditional” December 9, 2013

Posted by Tantumblogo in disaster, episcopate, error, General Catholic, Holy suffering, horror, Latin Mass, Liturgy, Papa, persecution, religious, scandals, secularism, self-serving, shocking, the return.

Tancred at Eponymous Flower has posted some recent Italian articles dealing with the Franciscans of the Immaculate, including a response for the Vatican-installed apostolic commissioner, Fidenzio Volpi OFM Cap.  In Father Volpi’s own words, the FFIs leadership of the FFIs was sacked for being “crypto-Lefebvrian, always traditional.”  Even more details have been revealed about the moves against the order, which has included removal of almost all heads of seminaries, numerous priors, the entire top leadership of the order, and the more or less blanket refusal to allow the TLM or the prayer of the Breviary according to the traditional Liturgy.  The few progressive elements in the order have been given all the positions of influence.

In a word, a coup:

The progressive Vaticanist Mario Tosatti had published a few days ago in the daily newspaper La Stampa a letter from a member of the Third Order of the Franciscans of the Immaculate, in which the radical approach of the Commissioner has been criticized (see separate report “Unrestricted War” against the Franciscans of the Immaculate Conception? The -4Unspeakable “Blemish” ).  [You must read this link.  It details all the actions against the FFIs.  Very uncharitable actions, which seem totally counter to Pope Francis’ interest in being always loving and never dogmatic. Some of the former FFI leadership are essentially being held incommunicado under what amounts to house arrest.  Incredible.]  The interventions affect not only the male religious branch, but also the Third Order, which was completely paralyzed by Father Volpi.

The Apostolic Commissioner responded with a letter to Tosatti’s publication. In it, he explained for the first time the actual reason for the actions of the Vatican against the Order and its founder. The Franciscans of the Immaculate Conception is alleged to  have “drifted” in a “Crypto-Lefebvrian, anyways traditionalist” direction. Even Tosatti reads from the extensive letter, in addition to several minor matters, what  “the real problem” is.
media-52257-2The Commissioner stated thus confirming what was immediately clear to observers by the prohibition of the traditional rite and in the decree made by the Religious Congregation. The tough measures are directed against the rediscovery of the traditional rite and against the defense of the Church’s tradition. Commissioner Father Volpi does not distinguish between “Lefebvrian” and “traditionalist”, and thus, not even between the canonically unrecognized Priestly Society of St. Pius X and the canonically recognized Ecclesia Dei communities. Obviously, an attachment to tradition is for the Commissioner basically a “problem”. A direction that is not only displeasing to the Capuchin, but must be fought. And he has done so with great zeal since last August. Obviously, it was this aversion that qualified him for the task of the Apostolic Commissioner.  [Unfortunately, it would seem so.  My personal interaction with Capuchins, especially Capuchin monks, is that they are one of the most thoroughly anti-tradition orders in the Church.  They have persecuted with savage zeal one lone Capuchin I know who is attracted to the Church’s constant belief and practice and the glorious Mass.]
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I’m out of time for the day, but a couple of quick notes from the remainder of the article, which you should read.  The FFIs were growing explosively.  They were incredibly successful.  That attracted a great deal of anger and envy from dying orders filled with aging modernists.  Think how differently the FFIs are being dealt with than were the Legionairies of Christ, whose founder even some other senior leaders have been found to be out of control in morality and utter disgraces to the Church. cd044211408170eeb8c72472be5eda00 But there is no persecution there.  There has not been a single accusation, let alone proof, of impropriety by the FFIs or any of their leaders.  But they are being made to suffer severe treatment for doing exactly what Pope Benedict XVI encouraged them to do.
This Capuchin apostolic administrator now wants to devour the “reform” the Franciscan Sisters of the Immaculate, as well.  He has publicly complained recently of not being given authority over them, as well.
Truly frightening.  The FFIs are being persecuted not because of some alleged division within the order, but solely due to their bold adherence to Tradition and their immense success in attracting vocations – so says the man who is overseeing their “reform.”
If they can be treated in this manner, who else?
I thought the Church was all about dialogue and the primacy of the individual conscience?   Apparently, some are exempt!  It is only those who love and adhere to the constant belief and practice of the Faith that are below such enlightened treatment.


1. MMC - December 10, 2013

So you if you rape a child, lead millions of souls to hell, practice and promote sodomy and heresy you are treated like royalty in the Church. But if you seek Tradition and the TLM, it is immediate and decisive action. All of these decades where they let the out of control liberals and modernists destroy everything without a peep…yet the moment someone seeks to restore all things in Christ, they attack and crush instantly. This is pure proof that the demonic runs the Church now. Lord have mercy on us all.

Hannah - December 10, 2013

Anyone and everyone is welcome in the Counciliar Church except true Catholics. That’s fact.

Lorra - December 10, 2013

You have got it down pat. Pass go and collect your $200 and go to the head of the class! 🙂

They’ve been doing this to anyone who refused to go along to get along for the past fifty years. At this stage, they are experts in what they are doing.
That this has been done to the FFI should not surprise anyone. Actually, I am glad it was done because it tells me nothing has changed in the church since the sixties. Still business as usual.
No light at the end of the tunnel yet.

2. TG - December 10, 2013

Reminds me of what happened to Padre Pio and St. John of the Cross. Our Lady, pray for the clergy.

3. Rebecca Joan - December 10, 2013

I saw someone say this the other day, that liberals seek to destroy the church and conservative Catholics just cling to the ruins. Though with how some of the ‘conservative catholics’ treat traditional people and traditions…they might both be destroying it at this point.

St. Benedict's Thistle - December 10, 2013

I have found this to be absolutely true. I believe many ‘conservative’ Catholics have no true idea of the faith beyond a little deeper reading than the average person in the pews.

Rebecca Joan - December 10, 2013

Spot on. They do the ‘deeper reading’ and spin it too.

Lorra - December 10, 2013

“Conservatives” are the liberals of yesterday.

tantamergo - December 10, 2013

A key problem I have noted of late is the reflexive refusal to countenance any concerns expressed about the direction of the papacy. I was thinking of turning this into a post, but the way the revolution worked is that the faithful were told, yes, things seemed wild and out of control right then, but that all would be fixed and soon return to normal. That kind of counsel was given repeatedly in the years 1965-1972 or so. By the time the faithful looked around and figured out that the changes being made were not temporary, it was too late, that no one was going to “fix” them, they were set in stone.

Conservatives of that time played a big role in that process. They constantly counseled obedience, quiet, just trust the powers that be, they’ll take care of it, etc. There were even special reports from Rome where it was breathlessly reported in conservative Catholic publications that Paul VI knew what was going on and was just on the verge of quashing the modernists. But it never happened. Conservatives acted like a valium on the Church, keeping concerned souls just tranquilized enough to prevent any serious, large scale opposition to the ongoing revolution. That has often been their role, since.

Branch - December 10, 2013

I think this thread the back and forth comments which follow are a good example of your point: http://www.thepersonalistproject.org/comments/the_heart_of_the_church

Rebecca Joan - December 10, 2013

Yeah. I’m amazed at the turn around after the interview once the conservative bunch ‘explained’ what the Pope ‘really meant’. Now it’s back to business as usual for them and all is forgotten. If you bring it up, they say, oh not that again and go into a spin mode so fast you’d think they were whirling dervishes.

Lorra - December 10, 2013

Wow! This is exactly what we are talking about.
To be honest with you, when I read articles/comments like on that blog, I think to myself that I live in a Catholic world different than the author. Not only that, I find myself sincerely wondering where my Catholic thinking went awry, as it would be, in the long run, better to be like her. At least in my opinion.

Patrick - December 11, 2013


When you say where your Catholic thinking went awry, and that it would be better to be like her, what do you mean?

Branch - December 11, 2013

I think there are different Catholic ‘worlds’ too.

Lorra - December 11, 2013

Patrick, what I mean is that she goes with the flow. It would never occur to her to question anything that the pope says or does. She malleable and pliant. This is the only Church she has ever known (the Vatican II church). I remember well the old Church and I see the contradictions and the damage done (although many today do not think any damage has been done, and Francis says the fruits of VII are “enormous”).

In the end, I think she is better off than I am, and I wish I could regain what she has. I lost it in the very late eighties, and I don’t know that I ever will get it back before I go to my Particular Judgment.

Patrick - December 11, 2013


I still don’t understand why going with the flow is better off. Isn’t knowing the truth, even if painful or hard to bear, better?

Lorra - December 11, 2013

She’s a lot more at peace than I am. It isn’t easy knowing the truth and trying to maneuver your Catholic way in a diocese and parish that is more interested in being pc than in being Catholic.

Patrick - December 11, 2013

There is sometimes peace, peace when there is no peace.

Branch - December 13, 2013
Branch - December 10, 2013

“They constantly counseled obedience, quiet, just trust the powers that be, they’ll take care of it, etc. ”

Yes, that is how it seems to work. In the example given, the counsel was “patience.” For what, and for how long exactly, I’m not sure. But when pressed, the skeptics are told to mind their own business, that it’s above their pay grade, to stop trying to be the Pope…

Lorra - December 10, 2013

“Conservatives acted like a valium on the Church, keeping concerned souls just tranquilized enough to prevent any serious, large scale opposition to the ongoing revolution. That has often been their role, since.”

Perfect! They haven’t changed one iota either.
They are professional damage controllers and white washers. They are also one of the greatest enemies a Catholic has because they kill the “Catholic sense” we each.

4. Karl - December 10, 2013

Ditto my comments regarding the coming synod.

5. PJ - December 10, 2013

Our Lady of Good Sucess, Pray for us

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7. Branch - December 13, 2013

Also, be on guard for the next wave of guilt-tripping: that one is not over the moon because Pope Francis is Person of the Year.


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