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Cartoon on FFI situation December 16, 2013

Posted by Tantumblogo in abdication of duty, Basics, disaster, episcopate, General Catholic, Holy suffering, horror, martyrdom, persecution, religious, Saints, secularism, self-serving, sickness, Society.

The blog That the Bones You Have Crushed May Thrill has made a cartoon of the Franciscans of the Immaculate situation, especially regarding the “oath” to be administered wherein the Franciscans will have to swear fealty and obedience to the many headed beast that is Vatican II, and, it seems, even its incredibly ill-defined “spirit.”



The cartoon is a bit of a joke incorporating some of the text from Fr. Jon Hunwicke’s own analysis of this oath, and how self-contradictory and even illusory such an oath would be.

How can one swear allegiance to a set of documents that are often self-contradictory?  And as regards the “spirit,” it has been in almost constant opposition to many direct declarations of Vatican II from the beginning.  As Fr. Hunwicke notes:

An oath requiring subscription to precise doctrinal statements, such as the Anti-Modernist oath or subscription to dogmatic decrees of a pope or council, may be hard enough to parse accurately in hermeneutic terms. But those problems are nothing compared with giving meaning to the concept of “accepting” the body of documents emerging from Vatican II, a “pastoral Council”. The Superior of SSPX said that his brethren accepted “95%” of the Council, and asked whether ‘liberals’ (one thinks of the associations of dissident priests in Ireland, Austria, and elsewhere, and the recent meeting of IMWAC … International Movement We Are Church) accept anything like as much. Of course they don’t. Does Hans Kueng? And Fr Aidan Nichols has said that one particular Conciliar decree “occasions a genuine difficulty for orthodox Catholics”. Take, also, the Conciliar decree on the Church in “the Modern [hodiernus = ‘of today’] World”. The ‘today’ of 2014 is many ways  very different from the ‘today’ of 1963. The Holy Father has just pointed this out (EG 84; alluding to the ‘naive optimism’ of the conciliar period, and adding: “We are more realistic”). So has the Magisterium decided which parts of that document still apply and which do not? Or is everyone free to decide that for themselves?

The gist seems to be, Vatican II means whatever the powers that be in Rome at a particular moment in time take it to mean.  And given how vaguely worded and even self-defeating many of the documents of Vatican II were and are, this could mean enormous swings from one pontificate – or episcopate – to the next, with all the self-contradiction, confusion, and despair that implies.

One of the most tragic aspects of the materialist-oriented construct of “democratic liberalism” the vast majority of us live in today is that the “power of the people” is really an illusion, that with the undoing of the Rights of God and their replacement with the rights of man there is no solid foundation for society.  We have thus devolved into a near-totalitarian construct where the only thing that matters is power, who wields it, and what they want.  Is the Church to be the same?  Is will to power the name of the game, now?

What happened to the rock of stability that the papacy has been for centuries?  Is it now to swerve wildly in one direction after another depending on who holds the Chair of Peter?

On the plus side, all the suffering going on is a huge opportunity for mortification and sanctification!  Speaking of, I pray you are keeping the Franciscans of the Immaculate in your prayers?


1. Lorra - December 16, 2013

“The gist seems to be, Vatican II means whatever the powers that be in Rome at a particular moment in time take it to mean. ”

That’s right. Countless times I have read that on a popular Catholic forum. Even a moderator there wrote as much, except he said that Church teaching is whatever the current pope says it is.

Not to worry though. Godlessness was crushed. Upward and onward.

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