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Voris with an explosive video on homosexual clergy January 15, 2014

Posted by Tantumblogo in abdication of duty, Basics, disaster, episcopate, error, General Catholic, horror, manhood, priests, scandals, self-serving, sexual depravity, sickness, Society, Spiritual Warfare, unadulterated evil.
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Here is some concrete data on how the priesthood is being consumed by bad bishops and men with questionable, at best, vocations.  A good priest was scandalized to no end after being introduced to his fellow priest’s boyfriends at a clerical Christmas party.  A Christmas party.  Have these men no shame?

The answer is no, they don’t have any shame.

Great line: “Priests and bishops who downplay hell and allow or look the other way in the face of one of these evils will be among the FIRST to have judgment pronounced upon them.”  I agree.

“crack addicted Catholic bloggers over in la-la land…..”  I LOVE IT!

My guess on the diocese is Los Angeles.

I am aware of similar stories in other dioceses.  These things go on around the country and much of the developed world.

The Church today exists, in a practical matter, in the midst of a massive lie.  So many clergy and bishops, far from being exemplars of the Faith they should be, are totally lost in horrid sins of perversion and unbridled lust. One must wonder whether these men had the right intent and disposition when being ordained.  Talk about a can of worms.

In almost any diocese in this country, enterprising lay people could very easily learn much that would scandalize them by hiring a private detective to follow around some priests for a week or two, and do some online digging.  Such occurred in Miami a few years ago, and it brought down an extremely perverse and destructive bishop (of course, that was with a different pope, one who took the priest boy rape scandal seriously, and who also took the priestly vow of celibacy seriously, as well).  I know several men who went to seminary in the past 10 or 20 years and experienced the rampant predations of the dominant sodomite cliques that exist in most seminaries nationwide.  How many good men have been driven from true vocations, or were prevented advancement to ordination because they refused to respond to the advances of some perverse soul?  The number, I fear, would rock the Church.

We should all really take a few minutes to ponder the implications of this kind of report: openly homosexual priests parading around with their lovers, chancery officials eagerly persecuting orthodox priests, bishops in the know and actively covering all this up.  Just what do these men believe?  Why in God’s Name are they in the Church?  Why do they insist on inflicting themselves on faithful souls?  What kind of mentality is at work here?

The answers are frightening.  As Michael concludes, men like these don’t even care for the state of their own souls, how could the possibly care about yours?

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1. ProLIFEmommy - January 15, 2014

GOD BLESS MICHAEL VORIS!! And, thank YOU for dedicating your blog posts to the Truth. Sadly, we won’t hear about ANY of this on EWTN… or any mainstream Catholic media, for that matter….

2. Branch - January 15, 2014
3. Lorra - January 15, 2014

“The Church today exists, in a practical matter, in the midst of a massive lie. ”
In all of my decades on the face of this earth, this is the saddest line I have ever read.

But, I have to ask, what is the use of Catholics knowing about this? You don’t want anyone going outside the Church for Mass, yet this is what knowing about things like this cause – this demoralizes Catholics.

The only thing, aside from praying intensely and doing penance for these priests, bishops and cardinals, that we can do is to withhold money from the collection basket every Sunday. Money is their bottom line. In my diocese, when the homosexual scandal finally broke, my fellow parishioners refinancing their homes to help the diocese pay off the debt it incurred from having to pay out settlements to the young men who were affected by these priests. As soon as I saw people doing this, I knew that the scandal was not going to end anytime in the near future. Why should it?

When it first hit, the initial reaction of the people in my parish was to stop giving money. We were then bombarded with sermons telling us that we had a lot of nerve “punishing the Church” by no longer giving money.

For anyone here that is interested, and has the stomach to take it and the mental capacity to absorb the filth, read Randy Engel’s “Rite of Sodomy”.

4. Lorra - January 15, 2014

I just wanted to add that, as you know, I can’t watch this. I can only comment on what you have posted, Tantum.

More than anything, things like this sadden me more than I can tell you. How low the churchmen (and women) have fallen.

5. Lynne - January 15, 2014

There are some who say that because Voris didn’t name names, he must be making it up. Do not forget the heroic work of Stephen Brady at http://www.rcf.org

Lorra - January 15, 2014

Michael Voris, I assume, would like to live. If he has a family, I am sure he doesn’t want them harmed either.

No one in their right mind would name names. As it is, by him giving this report, he is endangering himself. Don’t be surprised by anything that may be written or said about him on the internet from hereon in.

Branch - January 15, 2014

It’s only gossip indeed at this point. If true change were to come about, then names must be named. Let’s either get serious about this or stop this tattling nonsense.

In fact, shouldn’t the priest in question, who was scandalized, have gone further? If he is booted from the diocese, so be it. It will have been for the greater good, perhaps.

Lorra - January 15, 2014

Branch, feel free to delve into. You can start a blog and name all the names you want.

Branch - January 15, 2014

I don’t know the names.

Some chancery official is going to intimidate the priest in question? Then, how about going to the bishop instead of the Vortex, where this becomes nothing more than grandstanding at this point? If no luck there, then take it higher.

St. Benedict's Thistle - January 16, 2014

I believe differently. I believe that one who is in his right mind (having the mind of Christ) would name names. Are we not admonished to leave all for Christ? Are we not taught that we are blessed to suffer for Him?

I think at this moment in time, those who speak up are going to have their characters assassinated, may lose jobs/income, the approbation of friends and family, but do we not see the heavenly gain? Are we so minded of this world that our reputations and comfortable lives are more important than our Lord and His Church?

Keeping quiet emboldens the evil one, and the persecution will deepen until the faithful are thrown in jail and tortured for their beliefs.

And, believe me, I am aware of what happens when you publicly oppose the hierarchy of a diocese. They will do whatever it takes to defeat you. You will be threatened by the press, you will have spies sent amongst you, your reputation will be trashed, you will be isolated and calumnized, and whispering campaigns will be made against you. Those who join with you are similarly tarred and feathered. You find out who your friends are (and believe me, they are few). You may even be the target of noxious prayers. Yes! They want nothing more than to shut you up, because to shut you up is to win. To keep the filth hidden is to win.

We are dealing with principalities and powers and not flesh and blood, and should pray for all those who fight the good fight. Pray that they have the courage and conviction to stand. Pray that they are protected from the backlash of exposing evil. When you stand for Christ and His Church, the devil will take every weakness you have and use it against you. But God is so perfect and glorious that He can take the weak things of the world and confound the strong.

Ok. Stepping off soap box. Scarred and marked from battle, but head unbowed.

Branch - January 16, 2014

Exactly right.

Baseballmom - January 17, 2014

Sounds like you met a few priests in my old Diocese… Sacramento. One poor man who attempted orthodoxy was accused of pedophelia in a whisper campaign and then sent off for “treatment”. He was at St. Mary’s in Vacaville – home parish of the infamous Cindy Sheehan…. It is very rough for these poor men.

6. Woody - January 15, 2014

At some point, names must be reported. Otherwise, it is no more than gossip. And I thought he was referring to Boston!

7. Woody - January 15, 2014

How about we name those priests who have been sainted or beautified because they chose to please God and not man? St. Pio comes to mind. Or Fr. Vladimir Ghika. St. Maximilian Kolbe. Or the priest in the 1927 photo in Mexico in front of a firing squad. There are many such brave and loyal priests who chose God and His Church over those who want to destroy her. MV already knows what it’s like to be hated. He has balls; big ones And the priest that told him the story about the party, he should grow a pair and give MV the approval to say what diocese the party occurred. Will he be raked over the coals? Probably. But he needs to think of what it must feel like to be nailed to a cross. In this time, we all must remember what Christ did for us. As He said, you have to pick up your cross and follow Him. That doesn’t mean it will be easy or fun. Just my unworthy thoughts.

Ben Warren - January 16, 2014

You shouldn’t be saying ‘balls.’ Shame.

Woody - January 16, 2014

Gonads?

Ben Warren - January 16, 2014

Shame on you. I don’t run the blog, but if I did, I would threaten to ban you.

DiscipleoftheDumbOx - January 16, 2014

Cajones, then? Ben, you are focusing on the gnat here.

TG - January 16, 2014

Maybe the priest is afraid of ending up dead. Renew America has had several articles on a priest that was killed. Probably had to do with homosexuality and satanism.

8. Baseballmom - January 15, 2014

Saw this yesterday on MV’s site. Was wondering why he did not Name names, but assumed it was to protect the priest who reported to him. Go to the Bishop???? ARE YOU SERIOUS????? In a diocese like that one the good priest would be immediately sent off for psychological evaluation… I have seen this happen. Could be that the priest wants to stay in his parish and protect his own people from these monsters.

9. Lynne - January 15, 2014

Branch, the priest should just come forward?

http://whereisfrhaley.blogspot.com/2009/04/story.html

Lorra - January 15, 2014

Does anyone even know where Father Haley is? I remember when that happened. That was a long time ago. Can’t blame him if he lost the faith. Like I wrote earlier, this stuff is demoralizing.

TG - January 16, 2014

Just visited that site. I went to a link about Father Fiore. I’m going to have to order his book. I have read about Father Kunz who was brutally murdered in some type of satanic ritual. There’s a reporter on Renew America that has been following this story. This reporter also spoke to “Agnes” the female from Windswept House. This woman confirms what Father Martin wrote in his book. If I were Michael Voris, I’d be afraid of the homo mafia.

Lorra - January 16, 2014

TG, that is what I have been trying to say.

10. Don - January 15, 2014

OT

From Rorate

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Cardinal O’Malley’s Methodist reaffirmation

Less than a year and a half ago, Sean Cardinal O’Malley traveled from Boston to Washington, D.C. to attend a traditional Latin Requiem High Mass for U.S. pro-life leader Nellie Gray, and spoke from the pulpit after the funeral. Also during the pontificate of Benedict XVI, Cardinal O’Malley, archbishop of Boston, administered the sacrament of confirmation using the traditional Latin books at his cathedral.

Fast-forward to the current pontificate, when Cardinal O’Malley is, as one secular publication observed, “the only North American member of the Cabinet that Francis formed to advise him.” The charity toward traditional Catholics quickly changed.

Now we have learned Cardinal O’Malley proactively asked a female Methodist minister to “re-affirm” his baptism with an “anointing” at a Protestant church this month in Sudbury, Massachusetts.

During a special ecumenical worship service in Sudbury, Cardinal Sean O’Malley asked the Rev. Anne Robertson of Plymouth to administer a baptism reaffirmation ritual to him. (George Martell/Pilot New Media)

The local newspaper, the Patriot-Ledger, reported on the female Methodist minister’s “completely unexpected” request from the cardinal here:

“What moved me was not so much that I was anointing him,” she said. “It was him being willing to accept that from my hand – to ask me, as a woman in ministry, to do that.”

A Rhode Island native, the Rev. [Anne] Robertson was the only female clergy member who assisted at a special 50th anniversary worship service at Sudbury United Methodist Church.

As part of Sunday’s anniversary service, the 500 who filled Sudbury United Methodist to overflowing were invited to receive a drop of consecrated water on their forehead and be told, “Remember your baptism and be thankful.” The ritual resembles the ceremonial receiving of ashes on Ash Wednesday, but isn’t a formal United Methodist sacrament.

Cardinal O’Malley and New England United Methodist Bishop Sudarshana Devadhar led the ritual in the sanctuary. The Rev. Robertson and a Catholic priest were on their way with small bowls of water to a side room, for others watching the service on a large-screen TV.

She paused with the priest at the cardinal’s pew, so they could receive the baptism water from Cardinal O’Malley. The next moment, the cardinal quietly asked the Rev. Robertson to administer the water for him.

“My heart immediately went to my throat,” she said. “To be asked that by the man who might be pope someday – I was stunned. I was choking back tears for hours.”

Same here.

Lorra - January 15, 2014

Maybe the Reverend Annie will be coming to my parish at the next pulpit exchange.

Sounds like my pastor and parish are right in the current swing of things.

Lorra - January 15, 2014

By the way, I thought it is a sacrilege to simulate a sacrament like this?

TG - January 16, 2014

A priest once told me that you can be baptized only once. Disgusting.

11. Michael P. Mc Crory. - January 15, 2014

Rev Matthew Munoz ( John Wayne’s grandson ) told me that Camerillo Seminary encouraged homosexuality while he was there about ten years ago.
” Anyone who took the Churche’s position on that issue was ostracised.” he said.
He left for one year but returned there to complete his studies.
When ordained I asked him why he did not expose this scandal he said: ” It’s not like that now. ”
As St Catherine said.
” I have had enough of being told to be silent; I see the world has gone rotten with silence. Shout the truth from the rooftops.

12. Michael P. Mc Crory. - January 15, 2014

….rooftops” continued.
I agree with Branch and Woddy. Expose it all. Tell all.

The little good that is done by protecting oneself or others is nothing compared to the irreperable harm being done to souls by this false prudence.

13. Michael P. Mc Crory. - January 15, 2014

Camerillo seminary is the one for Los Angeles Ca. area.

Surprise?

Baseballmom - January 17, 2014

It is called St. John’s seminary. Had a friend there about a decade and a half ago… It was a pink palace then…

14. Hannah - January 16, 2014

May God have mercy on these men. I truly have no words. PRIESTS with BOYFRIENDS?! Who can imagine such a thing? It’s sacrilege and an abomination. It’s a miracle God HASN’T consumed this world with fire.

15. Ben Warren - January 16, 2014

PLEASE SHOUT IT FROM THE ROOFTOPS.

Hannah - January 16, 2014

The Vicar of Christ should be shouting and calling for repentance from the Dome of St. Peter’s but NO. I mean, who is he to judge, after all? We hear crickets from Rome, as usual.

16. skeinster - January 16, 2014

I’m with Woody, Branch and Michael. CMTV’s apologetics are great, but the tabloidesque tittle-tattle MV sometimes indulges in on The Vortex makes me nuts.

If you don’t have the priests’s permission to use his name and diocese, then don’t use the story. Because it’s gossip.

17. Mary - January 16, 2014

do a google search on gay Catholic priests, there are some who come out and publicly admit, or their pics show up in photos of the gay parades. It’s real.

18. Ben Warren - January 16, 2014

Surely then someone in Catholic media could approach Michael Voris and try to get him to try to persuade this priest to speak up. If the bishop gives him the Loverde treatment, so what? Maybe he could ask to be de-frocked and then re-ordained in a not completely savage diocese.

DiscipleoftheDumbOx - January 16, 2014

How about we all speak up about the sin of sodomy in our every day conversation? Because we have been too silent on this matter, the problem has only grown to the point of a malignant cancer doing great harm to the Body of Christ. What? You gotta wait for someone like Phil Robertson to come along and do the talking for you? This evangelical puts us Catholics to shame in this regard. Be not afraid and seek first the kingdom of God.

Lynne - January 16, 2014

Excellent point! How many of us are silent on Facebook about homosexuality because we wouldn’t want to upset our friends?

Lorra - January 16, 2014

They are a well organized group and have threatened to eliminate us within fifty years if we don’t back off of them. So one said on a forum.

DiscipleoftheDumbOx - January 16, 2014

Well, since they can’t have kids I doubt seriously this brave yet idiotic pronouncement. The answer: be a faithful Catholic open to new life. The other team’s way only leads to certain death. What a maroon.

19. Woody - January 16, 2014

The table has turned. What was once underground because society would not tolerate such deviant behavior is now flourishing because society accepts such behavior as normal. Now those who refuse to accept such deviant behavior as normal are underground because society scorns them for their opinion. The hierarchy in the Church throughout the world has accepted the secular world’s view on homosexuality, despite the knowledge that we know that it was put in place by subterfuge and misinformation. The problem is that those who practice homosexuality are within the hierarchy. It will take brave men to point out those who are homosexuals and also those that protect the homosexuals. It will take brave laity to support those brave priests who are willing to take on the hierarchy. Look to the cross for that is where we will get our courage, fortitude and strength. Remember, they will hate you because they hated Me first.

20. Ben Warren - January 16, 2014

It will take brave men to point out who is swearing or using vulgar language. Obviously vulgarity is not abominable, but it still matters. Ladies and gentlemen, we are on the edge of persecution for the faith (if not already having a long experience of it), and two men on this blog refuse to humbly apologize for their vulgarity. It takes charity and courage to correct such a thing.

Protestants don’t take Catholics seriously because they are so vicious, and part of that involves the widespread habit of Catholics’ swearing. If we are avoiding movies worse than PG, as we ought, and other corrupt media, this wouldn’t be an issue. Fr. Z’s blog’s will never go ANYWHERE because he swears on it.

Mortal sin tends to cause other evils. The remedy is to focus on the sanctity of our Lady, instead of saying “I’m not nearly as bad as so-and-so.” Correcting a brother is a work of mercy.

Again, shame on you!

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22. Steve - January 16, 2014

In regard to speech (and dress), our Catholic teachings compel us to present ourselves in holy and modest fashion.

DiscipleoftheDumbOx - January 16, 2014

Okay, okay…how about ‘testicular fortitude’ then? You guys are being ridiculous and acting like a bunch of girls (no offense to you ladies on here).

tantamergo - January 16, 2014

I’m glad you had the stones to say that.

tantamergo - January 16, 2014

I couldn’t resist!

I have to be careful, I’m the son an oilfield worker who climbed his way into management, but always cussed like a sailor. But I think we can get a little too froo froo.

23. Woody - January 16, 2014

For all the women that my vulgarity offended regarding a man having courage in the face of adversity, I apologize.

Baseballmom - January 17, 2014

Hahaha! Offended? I raised BALLPLAYERS… Could never use their salty stuff on this site…. 🙂

Lorra - January 17, 2014

It wasn’t so much that it offended me as that I don’t think we should be emulating those in the world. For over a year, I spent time on a secular forum. The members there are very funny and I never laughed so much. However, 98% are not Catholic – some were atheists, others defined themselves as “secular humanists”, still others “libertarians”. Some were communists and, if they could pull off another holocaust (this time zeroing in primarily on Catholics), they’d do it in an instant.

Now, why am I writing all of this? Oh, yes. Your apology. I would expect that language from them, not from the people here.
But, language like that offends me less than pious frauds and mealy-mouth pious bleating. Now, that really grinds on my nerves.

24. Ben Warren - January 19, 2014

You talk as if our Blessed Lord Hisself were a faggot. I’ve jumped on a moving train in the middle of the night on no sleep and ridden it for seventy miles in 20 degree weather. I’ve worked half a day in sub-zero temperatures without a winter jacket. I’ve worked in a paper suit in 105 degree heat. I’ve hitchhiked all night with no nap the day prior, on a dark road, in open ground, to avoid trouble. I’ve made many thousands of women fall in love with me, some of them extremely beautiful, just by existing. I can slash a thug with a machete, make a great salary, convert skeptics, father children, start a revolution, entertain the haughty, and maybe even reform this corrupt ole Church we love. Can you?

So keep your “real men swear” to yourself. SHAME ON YOU!

tantamergo - January 20, 2014

C’est moi?

I was just joking with DDLG above. Who said we have to cuss to be a real man?

My policy on this blog has always been that longtime commenters get more leeway with going over the top with their language. I’m not sure I consider “balls” a cuss word. But if I did, Woody is one of the top 3 or 4 commenters on this site, he’s added a great deal to the discussion in the past, and so I tend to let little slips like that pass. That doesn’t mean I approve of it, but it actually attracts much more attention to the slip pointing it out and decrying it than it does to just let it slide.


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