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I need your help: traditional women’s religious orders April 28, 2014

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I know I have a great group of bright, well-informed readers, so I figured you could help me out. I know a young lady who feels a strong call to a vocation in religious life, and who is profoundly attached to the Traditional Mass 461893106and traditional practice of the Faith.  She has had some experience with the Carmelites in Valparaiso and that did not work out.  So now she is looking for other traditional religious orders in fully regular canonical situations.

I only know of a few other really traditional orders for women:

Benedictines of Mary, Queen of the Apostles

Slaves of the Immaculate Heart of Mary

Benedictine Sisters of Clear Creek

Brigittini Servitores Sanctissimi Salvatoris: this consists of just one elderly woman, I believe

Traditional Redemptoristines

Sister Adorers of the Royal Heart of Jesus

Carmel of Santa Fe: Can someone confirm, fully canonically regular?Benedictines of Mary, Queen of Apostles 4

That’s about all I can think of or find that are clearly traditional.  There are others that are traditional leaning or pretty far along the path towards embracing the traditional practice of the Faith.

Among these, the most notable to me and probably the most thoroughly traditional are the Franciscans of the Immaculate.  They are not under any investigation or process!  That’s only the Friars, thank God.  Fr. Wolfe says this is just a rock solid order.  They are in New Bedford, Mass.

Norbertines of Southern California

Poor Clare Monastery of Our Lady of Guadalupe

Not sure how traditional these two are. I’d say orthodox, trending traditional.

Beyond that, I’m pretty stumped. Can you help this young woman out?  I think she reads pretty regularly.  There simply aren’t nearly so many traditional religious orders for women as their are for men.  We all know how vital religious life, especially nuns, are to the Church!  So help this desert bloom again with your suggestions!  Maybe other young ladies will read this blog and get help finding traditional religious orders!

Would you please, in your charity, say a prayer that this young lady find her calling from God?

Deo Gratias!

PS – There are many fine, faithful orders of nuns around that are not traditional, including our local Carmelites who have supported our TLM community so well and whom I adore. I do not mean to slight them, I am simply trying to assist this young lady in finding good traditional religious orders.

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1. Michael Chapman - April 28, 2014

The Franciscans of the Immaculate. are very good. I believe the situation with the Friars will be resolved in time, as were the complications put in the way of Padre Pio and many other Catholics who were striving to do God’s Will.

tantamergo - April 28, 2014

I think the suffering the FFIs are undergoing is proof of God’s approval of their order and charism!

2. Paul Mitchell - April 28, 2014

Worth a look: http://womenreligiousorders.blogspot.com/2009/06/daughters-of-immaculata.html

Mother Patrick is a friend of mine. Tell her Paul Mitchell sent you.

In the Youtube video on their site, that’s me introducing her. It’s probably not what you’re looking for; I don’t know how attached they are to the TLM, but they’re worth knowing about.

Baseballmom - April 28, 2014

Mother Mary Patrick is awesome…. She and her sisters prayed our son through Law School AND the CA Bar…. Don’t know if they have the Tridentine or N.O offered though….

3. Magdalen - April 28, 2014

My brother attends Sunday Mass at the Carmel of Santa Fe. They do not offer the TLM as far as I know, at least not on Sundays.

Now the Franciscans Sisters of the Immaculate have an incredibly beautiful charism from the holy founders of the FFI. They are a missionary order though and thus very different from a cloistered convent although there are, I think, two cloistered contemplative convents with them–one in Cornwall and the other in Italy. Also there are Poor Clares of the Immaculate who are cloistered in Italy but I think the hostile commissioner of the FFI has not let their spiritual friar fathers care for them any more.

For information see http://www.franciscansoftheimmaculate.com/

4. Lisa M. - April 28, 2014

The Lockport, LA Dominican Nuns. They have the TLM everyday and are under the local ordinary. Their address:

DOMINICAN NUNS
Monastery of the Heart of Jesus
155 Church Street
Lockport, Louisiana 70374-2552

Here is a video they did awhile back of an investiture ceremony:https://www.catholic.org/video/watch.php?v=1164

They have since gone off the internet because they really are trying to live the traditional Dominican life and have limited media or none at all so you must write to them by snail mail.

tantamergo - April 28, 2014

Oh, thank you!

5. St Maravillas21 - April 29, 2014

This blog has many good orders on it: http://womenreligiousorders.blogspot.com

6. St Maravillas21 - April 29, 2014

I know tons of monastic traditional orders – so-so on active/semi-active as I haved discerned only monastic orders in the US and UK.

Oops also forgot: Institute on Religious Life have great orders on it: http://religiouslife.com/

For Carmels see the St. Joseph Association for the 1990 Constitution Carmels (traditional – a few 1991s are but not totally or have it written into their 1991 Constitutions to radically change for the worse): http://www.carmelitenunsstjoseph.org/ – though there may be a few who are very good and traditional that are NOT in this association.

Also, this blog, Discalced Carmeiltes 1990 at http://discalcedcarmelites1990.blogspot.com/ , is a great blog on the traditional Carmels also – not sure if this person (a friend of a friend) finished this blog on all the monateries or not.

All Poor Clare Colettine monasteries (Cleveland, Minooka, Rockford, Santa Barbara, etc) are traditional and the one Poor Clare monastery in St. Louis are.

First Federation Visitation monasteries are (Toledo, Tyringham, Philly, Mobile, Snellville).

Dominican nuns (monastic): Marbury, Buffalo, Linden, Springfield, Menlo Park.

7. David - April 29, 2014

Tantamergo,

Please don’t forget the Sisters of Mary, Mother of the Eucharist or the Dominican Sisters of Nashville. These two orders wear habits, and have a reputation for orthodoxy. The Sisters of Mary, Mother of the Eucharist, have a house now in Georgetown, and I believe some of them are teaching in Catholic schools in the Diocese of Austin. Their average age is about 28. Both orders were founded by a group of nuns who severed ties from another order, because they wanted to preserve orthodoxy.

I know both of the Nashville Dominicans and the Sisters of Mary, Mother of the Eucharist have “come and see” type weekends too. The Sisters of Mary, Mother of the Eucharist, are actually running out of room to put the new postulants, which is a good sign. When you have orthodoxy, the ladies come.

I knew someone from the Dallas area who entered the Intercessors of the Lamb about 10 years ago, which I believe is a smaller order that is based somewhere in Nebraska, I’m thinking around Omaha. From what I have heard, it seems orthodox, so the Intercessors of the Lamb may also be worth a look. The girl I knew was in her thirties when she entered, but I don’t know the demographics of the Intercessors of the Lamb.

KathiBee - April 29, 2014

While the orders are certainly orthodox, if the young lady is desiring something traditional, I would imagine neither would be a good fit at this time (maybe in the future though?). I don’t say this as a knock AT ALL against either of these fine orders.

We know of situation where a young woman who prefers the TLM was told by the vocations director (that’s probably not the right title, but it was the sister inquirers talk to) at one of these orders to remember that the TLM is ” just a means to the end” when she asked if she would ever be able to attend a TLM & was answered in the negative.

Orthodoxy is obviously extremely important — but if one has a strong attachment to tradition, I would imagine it would be really, really difficult to commit to rarely being able to attend a TLM for the rest of your life.

tantamergo - April 29, 2014

Thanks, Kathi, that’s true. Both Dominican orders are fantastic but not traditional in any sense. They don’t have the TLM at all, save maybe on rare special occasions.

This young lady really loves the TLM and really wants to try to live a traditional religious life. I think she’d prefer to be cloistered, if possible, which narrows the list even more. She had a bad experience at Valparaiso, not her doing, in my opinion.

David - April 29, 2014

Correction: the community in Omaha is the Brides of the Victorious Lamb, not the Intercessors of the Lamb. They are small and orthodox, and are fairly new.

Elizabeth - April 29, 2014

@David, took the words out of my mouth. In fact, the foundress of the Intercessors of the Lamb, “Mother Nadine”, has been suppressed by Rome. Not only that, they’re on the new-age, charismatic type of order, if they’re even in existence anymore after the action taken on their leader. Good news about the Brides of the Victorious Lamb. I hadn’t heard of them.

8. Elizabeth - April 29, 2014

You covered the only ones I’m aware of that are fully traditional. And I looked into it for myself several years ago, so I’m pretty up on the very few traditional orders. I’d heard a rumor about a Carmel up in Traverse City, MI, that were going fully traditional, but I just checked their website and it doesn’t appear so. I’d really recommend she look into the Sisters Adorers of the Royal Heart (associated with the Institute of Christ the King). When I looked into them, they were based in Italy, but I believe they have already, or are in the process of, moving to the St. Louis area if I’m not mistaken. They’re not cloistered but absolutely fully traditional.

9. Maria - April 29, 2014

I am very suprised to see in your list the Slaves of the Immaculate Heart of Mary, founded by Fr. Feeney who denied the baptism of desire and of blood and I think was condemned by the Holy See.

tantamergo - April 29, 2014

That was all reconciled decades ago. They are perfectly regular and the local bishop offers Mass in their chapel regularly.

Maria - April 30, 2014

Can you refer me to the information for the reconciliation? The site still defends Fr. Feeney.

tantamergo - April 30, 2014

Yes, they are fully reconciled. Their website says so, as does much other information.

Here is an article showing Bishop McManus of Worcester giving an award to one of their brothers:

http://www.saintbenedict.com/index.php/component/docman/doc_download/3-2013-fall?Itemid=

Here is an EWTN/CNA article discussing how the order was regularized in 2002:

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=4&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0CEEQFjAD&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.catholicnewsagency.com%2Fnews%2Fcommunitys-love-for-mary-draws-young-woman-to-religious-life%2F&ei=EzVhU4zYFKm68QG23YHAAQ&usg=AFQjCNGhtokSvTVmUZbs0DNrL8T3QXTp1Q&sig2=8jUlpuAF_YN6tEH_eyf-hg

From the order’s website:

http://www.saintbenedict.com/index.php/theorder/history

In 2002, Bishop Reilly of Worcester came to the Center and after a ceremony in the Chapel where the community recited and signed a copy of the Creed, he gave his formal blessing and “regularized” the community in the diocese. His successor, Bishop McManus has come to the Chapel several times since then to administer the sacrament of Confirmation in the Traditional Rite to the students of IHM.’

It is believed even Fr. Feeney died reconciled to the Faith. But I do note because of their history, there is often some animus among traditional Catholics towards this order. I think it is unfair, at this point. I have met these nuns, they have come to our FSSP parish a couple of times to conduct retreats, and they are awesome.

There are organizations associated with Fr. Feeney that are not regularized, but this is not one of them.

Maria - May 2, 2014

Thank you for the information. I don’t doubt the goodness and good intentions of the nuns, I still would like to see a statement accepting the baptism of desire and blood, which is not included explicitly in the copy of the Creed they signed. I know a priest that joined the Benedict Center after being discovered he was teaching against baptism of blood and desire to the students of a traditional group.

10. FutureCarmeliteJMJ - April 30, 2014

The Carmel of Santa Fe is under the new 1991 Constitutions. They are not particularly traditional (although they have the full habit, etc.) from what I have heard from a priest. Dallas Carmel is definitely more traditional than them, for one thing being under the 1990 Constitutions.

11. Philippa Gilbert - April 30, 2014

Wow, thank you! So good of you to do this!

tantamergo - April 30, 2014

I hoped you would find it.

Any help?

BTW, it seems the list I compiled is more or less all the really traditional orders. So, there aren’t many. They aren’t contemplative, but our priest friend Fr. W recommended you seriously consider the Franciscans of the Immaculate. They are active and not totally traditional (yet, they will be), but they are just awesome, rock-solid. He said you could not go wrong there.

12. FutureNunJMJ - April 30, 2014

Oh I forgot to mention! although someone here mentioned them already.. but specifically the Poor Clares of the Immaculate in Acquapendente, Italy are very traditional, and although they only have the TLM occasionally, they want it daily very much and are praying for it. They also pray the old breviary. A girl from Mater Dei actually entered there a couple years ago and is still there. I visited them and met her. I wouldn’t mind sharing more about my visit there with this young woman if she is interested. You can give her my email. God bless!


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