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Catholic parish lists ramadan on calendar of Saints?!?! June 27, 2014

Posted by Tantumblogo in asshatery, Basics, disaster, Ecumenism, error, foolishness, General Catholic, paganism, sadness, scandals, secularism, Society, the return.

Uff da…….what can one say.  Reader MB from San Antonio sent me the following images, which show St. Mark the Evangelist parish in San Antonio (which I have been to several times, never very edifying) listing the muslim season of ramadan on the calendar of Saints in their weekly bulletin:

St. Mark's San Antonio 062214 bulletin Ramadan note


If you want to download the entire bulletin (7 Mb) to see it in context it’s here (page 3, left side)—–>>>>Bulletin-515210_14_06_22

What can one say?  Even from the point of view of natural reason, let alone supernatural faith, what sense does it make to include a muslim holy period on a Catholic calendar?  Are there many souls at St. Mark who sort of straddle the fence between islam and Catholicism?  Or is this just yet another form of pandering to an exotic other to show the parish’s chicness?  A way to communicate how very refined and tolerant (re: indifferent) the good people of St. Marks purport themselves to be?

From a supernatural standpoint, it is at least mild blasphemy.

How, exactly, does this build up the faith of the parishioners?  To equate a pagan holy period with the inestimable Feasts of the Most Sacred Heart, the Immaculate Heart of the Blessed Virgin Mary, the Nativity of St. John the Baptist, and all the other Feasts listed…….it is incredible.

St. Paul tells us (1 Cor X:20): But the things which the heathens sacrifice, they sacrifice to devils, and not to God.  And I would not that you should be made partakers with devils.

St. David tells us in the Psalms (95:5) For all the gods of the gentiles are devils; but the Lord made the Heavens.

I know, the Bible is just so pre-conciliar!  It just doesn’t play in a time of interfaith “dialogue!”

Need I remind readers of the inveterate hostility in which islam has held Christianity since its inception?  Of the millions killed, the tens of millions of force conversions, the lands lost, the centuries of pirate raids and slaving parties and whole towns wiped out and invasions (all the way to Vienna, almost to Paris!) and mutilations and harems and rape and all the rest!  And what of the horrific ongoing muslim persecution of Christians today!  And yet we celebrate a muslim holy time in our Catholic calendars, putting this pagan worship on a par with the Most Sacred Heart of Jesus?

And we wonder why so many Catholics have fallen away, in totality or in essence.

It also shows why those who come to love the Traditional Mass and the Traditional practice of the Faith have such difficulty with not just the Novus Ordo Mass, but the entire post-conciliar ethos.  We come to know the Faith as it was practiced for eternity (in a sense), and then look at how it is practiced and published abroad today, and have to conclude: one of these things is not like the other.  You would not have seen such an equivalence made between a pagan feast and the holiest of days in any Catholic parish of 100 years ago.

As a final aside, the person who sent me this information said the parish office had been contacted, and what happened?  Was there an immediate apology, was there great concern expressed at how such a (admittedly small, but in some ways also huge) thing could happen?  No way, this is a Novus Ordo parish, the blame shifting began immediately!  You can see where Obama learned his political craft – the post-conciliar Catholic Church, where no accountability, blame shifting, and disappearing lines of authority have been refined to a high art!

I don’t know what to say beyond Lord have mercy on Your Church.




1. TG - June 27, 2014

Someone should complain to the Bishop even if it does no good.

2. discipleofthedumbox - June 27, 2014

Yeah…St. Mark’s. My parent’s parish. (sigh) Whenever my family visits, we insist upon Our Lady of the Atonement instead.

Tantumblogo - June 27, 2014

You don’t like zombie brick Jesus?

discipleofthedumbox - June 27, 2014

Not anymore than ‘stick figure’ Jesus at the Church of the Incarnation at UD…

3. CMAQX - June 27, 2014

If you look at http://www.stmarkevangelist.com/Libraries/Bulletins/Bulletin-515210_14_03_09.sflb.ashx you’ll see that Purim (a Jewish holiday) listed. I’m guessing one of the many feminists on the various parish committees are doing this in the spirit of Nostae Aetate which specifically mentions Jews and Muslism and that the Church “has great reverence for them.”

4. Maggie - June 27, 2014

Oh my goodness! That was my parent’s parish too! And when I visited I mostly drove across town to Our Lady of the Atonement.

(I always thought the baptism fountain reminded me of the teacup ride at Disney World)

Tantumblogo - June 27, 2014

Ha! That’s good!

What is the deal with having creek-like fonts in San Antonio. It’s definitely a “thing.”

5. Chris Baker - June 27, 2014

If you were to call them, I’m sure they’d just quote CCC #841 :The Church’s relationship with the Muslims. “The plan of salvation also includes those who acknowledge the Creator, in the first place amongst whom are the Muslims; these profess to hold the faith of Abraham, and together with us they adore the one, merciful God, mankind’s judge on the last day.” It’s a direct quote from Lumen Gentium 16. Thanks for calling!

Of course, no would dare quote what the Qur’an actually says about the Trinity (no such thing), the crucifixion (it didn’t happen), or Jesus being the Son of God (it’s blasphemy). Ramadan mubarak, indeed.

6. Pseudodionysius - June 27, 2014

I counted 400 Deacons listed in their parish.

7. PLinn - June 27, 2014

I think this is the second time my daughter has asked “Is that from Eye of the Tiber?” when I have read the title of one of your posts.

Thanks for keeping us informed though…Ughh

Pseudodionysius - June 27, 2014

If this isn’t the Great Apostasy then may God have mercy on us all when the Great Apostasy arrives for real.

8. dymphna wilson (@dymphnaw) - June 27, 2014

Might as well close this parish down. They seem to be confused.

9. Tom Syseskey - June 27, 2014

“What’s good for the goose is good for the gander”


w2.vatican.va/content/francesco/en/messages/pont-messages/2013/documents/papa-francesco_20130710_musulmani-ramadan.html http://w2.vatican.va/content/francesco/en/messages/pont-messages/2013/documents/papa-francesco_20130710_musulmani-ramadan.html

To Muslims throughout the World

It gives me great pleasure to greet you as you celebrate ‘Id al-Fitr’, so concluding the month of Ramadan, dedicated mainly to fasting, prayer and almsgiving.

It is a tradition by now that, on this occasion, the Pontifical Council for Interreligious Dialogue sends you a message of good wishes, together with a proposed theme for common reflection. This year, the first of my Pontificate, I have decided to sign this traditional message myself and to send it to you, dear friends, as an expression of esteem and friendship for all Muslims, especially those who are religious leaders.

As you all know, when the Cardinals elected me as Bishop of Rome and Universal Pastor of the Catholic Church, I chose the name of “Francis”, a very famous saint who loved God and every human being deeply, to the point of being called “universal brother”. He loved, helped and served the needy, the sick and the poor; he also cared greatly for creation.

I am aware that family and social dimensions enjoy a particular prominence for Muslims during this period, and it is worth noting that there are certain parallels in each of these areas with Christian faith and practice.

This year, the theme on which I would like to reflect with you and with all who will read this message is one that concerns both Muslims and Christians: Promoting Mutual Respect through Education.

This year’s theme is intended to underline the importance of education in the way we understand each other, built upon the foundation of mutual respect. “Respect” means an attitude of kindness towards people for whom we have consideration and esteem. “Mutual” means that this is not a one-way process, but something shared by both sides.

What we are called to respect in each person is first of all his life, his physical integrity, his dignity and the rights deriving from that dignity, his reputation, his property, his ethnic and cultural identity, his ideas and his political choices. We are therefore called to think, speak and write respectfully of the other, not only in his presence, but always and everywhere, avoiding unfair criticism or defamation. Families, schools, religious teaching and all forms of media have a role to play in achieving this goal.

Turning to mutual respect in interreligious relations, especially between Christians and Muslims, we are called to respect the religion of the other, its teachings, its symbols, its values. Particular respect is due to religious leaders and to places of worship. How painful are attacks on one or other of these!

It is clear that, when we show respect for the religion of our neighbours or when we offer them our good wishes on the occasion of a religious celebration, we simply seek to share their joy, without making reference to the content of their religious convictions.

Regarding the education of Muslim and Christian youth, we have to bring up our young people to think and speak respectfully of other religions and their followers, and to avoid ridiculing or denigrating their convictions and practices.

We all know that mutual respect is fundamental in any human relationship, especially among people who profess religious belief. In this way, sincere and lasting friendship can grow.

When I received the Diplomatic Corps accredited to the Holy See on 22 March 2013, I said: “It is not possible to establish true links with God, while ignoring other people. Hence it is important to intensify dialogue among the various religions, and I am thinking particularly of dialogue with Islam. At the Mass marking the beginning of my ministry, I greatly appreciated the presence of so many civil and religious leaders from the Islamic world.” With these words, I wished to emphasize once more the great importance of dialogue and cooperation among believers, in particular Christians and Muslims, and the need for it to be enhanced.

With these sentiments, I reiterate my hope that all Christians and Muslims may be true promoters of mutual respect and friendship, in particular through education.

Finally, I send you my prayerful good wishes, that your lives may glorify the Almighty and give joy to those around you.

Happy Feast to you all!

From the Vatican, 10 July 2013

10. maggycast - June 27, 2014

Listing the demonic next to Our Lord and Lady? Lovely. Yes, thanks Vatican II. And it’s done oh so much good for us…Muslims stopped persecuting/killing people just b/c of V2…NOT. I will praise the day that V2 is burned into oblivion. God bless~

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