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“Religion of peace” seizes ancient abbey, destroys Jonah’s tomb July 25, 2014

Posted by Tantumblogo in Basics, disaster, Ecumenism, episcopate, error, foolishness, General Catholic, Holy suffering, martyrdom, persecution, sadness, sickness, Society, unadulterated evil.

And yet the interreligious crazy train rolls on along.  Because……..oh, I don’t even want to bother right now.

I know there have been many reports of the depredations of the lunatic islamists currently ruling large parts of the Fertile Crescent.  But here are two you might have missed.  First, the muslims seized the  1700 year old Mar Mattai monastery outside Mosul on Sunday (naturally!) this week:nineveh-mar-mattai-monastery

Jihadist militants have taken over a monastery in northern Iraq, one of the country’s best-known Christian landmarks, and expelled its resident monks, a cleric and residents said Monday.

Islamic State (IS) fighters stormed Mar (Saint) Behnam, a 4th century monastery run by the Syriac Catholic church near the predominantly Christian town of Qaraqosh, on Sunday, the sources said.

“You have no place here anymore, you have to leave immediately,” a member of the Syriac clergy quoted the Sunni militants as telling the monastery’s residents.

He said the monks pleaded to be allowed to save some of the monastery’s relics but the fighters refused and ordered them to leave on foot with nothing but their clothes.

Christian residents from the area told AFP the monks walked several miles along a deserted road and were eventually picked up by Kurdish peshmerga fighters who drove them to Qaraqosh.

The Syriac cleric said five monks were expelled from Mar Behnam. Christian families in the area said there may have been up to nine people living at the monastery.

The incident was the latest move by the Islamic State, which last month declared a “caliphate” straddling large swathes of northern Iraq and Syria, to threaten a Christian presence in the region spanning close to two millennia.

That is to say, there were Christians there centuries before mohammad mounted his first goat.  Or nine year old, for that matter.

In other news, the raging islamists, driven by Lord knows what kind of massive inferiority complex, blew up Jonah’s tomb this week, after previously ransacking it.  And I thought muslims held the Old Testament prophets in esteem?  Or is it just blood they worship?

This tomb contained not just the remains of Jonah the great prophet of Nineveh, but also many other priceless works of antiquity.  But that does not please crazed Salafist Islam which has been exported around the world by Saudi oil money (and the Saudis and Gulf states basically funded ISIS into 0,,17795562_303,00being, as well as most of the Syrian “opposition” movements, because this is part of a larger struggle between Persia/Shia and Saudi/Shiite islam).  One almost wonders if it’s not time use their oil fields as an open air repository for our nuclear waste.


Just a quick compare and contrast – which great Prophet remained completely chaste and constantly counseled same?  Which one counseled peace, benignity, and even suffering enormous insults and barbs without recourse to violence?  Ok, now which one not only engaged throughout his adult life in unchaste, promiscuous acts, to the point of taking very young girls as “wives,” treated women like cattle, and counseled same?  Which one founded a religion unique among all the non-primitive religions in directing the use of the most extreme violence against all non-believers?  Which religion has been spread virtually entirely by that violence?  Which one is opposed to reason and not only encourages, but seems to demand ignorance and backwardness?

I also have to ask why if these fighters are so brave and their cause so holy, why do they hide their face?

A little more.  In 2003, there were 35,000 Catholics in Mosul.  Now there are none.  An unintended consequence, to be sure, but one that was foreseeable all the same.  That dang war in Iraq unleashed chaos and extremism – just as Pope Saint John Paul II warned – that may never end.  And ancient Christian communities are being destroyed as a result.

The muslim goal is that there be no Christians at all in their “sacred” ummah.  This nation has done much to help bring that about:

The American Catholic Charities guy isn’t very impressive, but I was edified to see all those Chaldean Catholic women in veils.  Such a shame to know that all of that, in northern Iraq, at least, is gone.

I know there are relatively benign and even some good aspects to islam.  I know there are millions of relatively good muslims.  I guess. But I’m having an increasingly hard time not seeing it as a profoundly erroneous religion that seems predisposed to great evil.

And yet so many leaders in the Church slather completely unjustified attention and accolades on islam.  They are almost sycophants at time – good little dhimmis.


1. Steve - July 26, 2014

I realize that massive resistance to Holy Tradition exists throughout the Church.

At least within the Latin Church, a great many Churchmen and laymen despise Latin, Gregorian Chant, Communion on the tongue (kneeling), beautiful churches and vestments, head coverings for women, ad orientem liturgy, Friday abstinence…

But maybe, maybe, the horrific persecutions that Catholics have long faced in Islamic and secular lands, persecutions that during recent years have exploded undeniably, are poised to spur at least some Churchmen and laymen (I’m really speaking about Latin Catholics) to recognize the following:

We must return to Holy Tradition now…NOW…right now!

Pope Francis is our spiritual leader.

If he wishes to rescue the (Latin) Church, then he must promote the Traditional Roman Mass…the Mass that had sustained him for nearly the first 25 years of his life.

Pope Francis must promote the Traditional Roman Mass…Latin Gregorian Chant, Holy Communion on the tongue (kneeling), ad orientem liturgy, Friday abstinence…on and on.

When will our Churchmen accept that Catholics, at least within the Latin Church, have been robbed of their rightful Mass and spirituality?

They have been robbed of their traditional Catholic identity.

Perhaps the expanding, frightening, powerful and undeniable global persecution of Christians, which Pope Francis has acknowledged, will shock our Churchmen into recognizing the futility of the “New Orientation” that, during the past 50 or so years, has wrecked Catholicism.

Beginning with the Middle East, perhaps the persecutions that our Catholic brothers and sisters (Eastern Catholics predominately) have faced of late will spur the Latin Church to sprint this very second into the direction of Holy Tradition.

Pope Francis must lead that sprint.

Wave upon wave of Catholics would follow His Holiness.

Perhaps for our Churchmen, the wakeup call is about to sound.

2. LaGallina - July 26, 2014

1700-year-old monastery??!! When do we do something about the destruction of our ancient religion? How do we defend it? When do the new Crusades begin? Viva Cristo Rey.

3. Steve - July 26, 2014

We defend Catholics by reviving, primarily within the Latin Church, Holy Tradition.

That would require a Pope determined to promote Catholic identity to the hilt.

He would cast aside the mediocrity and boredom that flow from Novus Ordoism.

He would restore such ancient practices as Friday abstinence.

Even Timothy Cardinal Dolan acknowledged that Friday abstinence served as a powerful “marker” of Catholic identity.

Such a Pope would promote the great unifying language of Latin to the hilt.

He would promote Gregorian Chant to drive the Marty Haugen musical mindset from the Church.

He would promote the notion that Catholic churches should radiate with beauty and reverence.

Tens of millions of Catholics, imbued with a powerful sense of Catholic identity, would drive from the Church the birth control/abortion/priestess/sodomite-marriage-is-acceptable mentality that has made it impossible for Catholicism to even compete with the Culture of Death society that gains strength daily.

Tens of millions of loyal Culture Of Life Catholic families would generate large Catholic families.

The rebirth of staunch Catholic nations and empires would follow.

Strong Catholic leaders of Catholic nations and empires could come to the rescue of Catholics who face persecutions in this or that part of the world.

Imagine if this second, 1,000,000 holy Catholic warriors and a Catholic-manned air force gathered from France, Spain, Italy, Belgium, Ireland…wherever…were headed, for example, to Mosul.

Not a shot would be fired as the cowards who terrified Christians would flee in fear.

Of course, we could always continue with the “New Orientation” that has marked the post-Vatican II Era.

Our Churchmen can continue to send Ramadan greetings and applaud the construction of mosques, into which they rush to pray.

Churches close left and right…mosques are constructed left and right.

Rome, Paris, Madrid, Brussels, London, Dublin are future Mosuls.

Perhaps there will be a sufficient amount of Pentecostals and Evangelicals to prevent the same in the Americas.

There had better be as there won’t be a sufficient amount of Catholics to do so.

4. D.O.T.C.O.M. (@DOTCOM_MOM) - July 26, 2014

Pope Francis made the following assertions about Islam in
Evangelii Gaudium :

“In order to sustain dialogue with Islam, suitable training is essential for all involved, not only so that they can be solidly and joyfully grounded in their own identity, but so that they can also acknowledge the values of others, appreciate the concerns underlying their demands and shed light on shared beliefs. We Christians should embrace with affection and respect Muslim immigrants to our countries in the same way that we hope and ask to be received and respected in countries of Islamic tradition. I ask and I humbly entreat those countries to grant Christians freedom to worship and to practice their faith, in light of the freedom which followers of Islam enjoy in Western countries! Faced with disconcerting episodes of violent fundamentalism, our respect for true followers of Islam should lead us to avoid hateful generalisations, for authentic Islam and the proper reading of the Koran are opposed to every form of violence.”

On June 8th, a Muslim imam was invited to participate in the “prayer for peace” event at the Vatican. The esteemed alumnus of Al-Azhar University went off-script, however, and asked Allah to help him gain victory over the unbelievers.

Maj. (ret.) Stephen Coughlin, who is one of the foremost non-Muslim American experts on Islamic law. Maj. Coughlin examines the context of what the imam’s prayer at the Vatican as it relates to Islamic law. He uses his explanatory material — from authoritative sources of Islamic law — to expose the strategy behind Muslim participation in the prayer event at the Vatican, and the Muslim Brotherhood’s exploitation of the “interfaith” movement to accomplish its own ends.

5. D.O.T.C.O.M. (@DOTCOM_MOM) - July 26, 2014

Consider this passage from Reliance of the Traveller chapter O, o9.0:
(This an authoritative source on Sunni Islamic law, because it is certified as such by Al-Azhar University in Cairo. There is no higher authority on Sunni Islamic doctrine than Al-Azhar; it is the closest equivalent to the Vatican that can be found in Islam) http://directorblue.blogspot.com/2014/06/a-complete-collapse-of-reason.html

“Jihad means to wage war against non-Muslims, and is etymologically derived from the word mujahada, signifying warfare to establish the religion. And it is the lesser jihad.”

At 1:20 seconds into the video, Mr. Coughlin asks most sincerely: “Well, that’s the defintion of Jihad and Islamic law. So the question I have to ask is: Am I making a ‘generalization’ for saying that? Am I ‘hateful’ when I read it? Because someone called these statements generalizations even as 10’s of thousands of innocent people are being killed by those who hold those views ”

He continues by quoting Pope Francis’s paragraph 253 of Evangelii Guadium. It is, indeed, an eye-opening commentary.

6. Steve - July 26, 2014

1. What is “authentic” Islam?

2. Who is authorized to speak definitively on behalf of Islam?

Sorry, but the problem is that with the exception of Catholicism, each religion is divided hopelessly.

God has blessed Catholicism alone with perfect unity.

Therefore, with the exception of Catholicism, it is impossible to define the so-called “authentic” version of this or that religion.

Islam is divided hopelessly. That is why one Islamic sect after another exists.

That is why Islamic sect “A” declares that Islamic sect “B’s” teachings are false…

…while Islamic sect “C” declares that Islamic sects “A” and “B” teach errors…

…while Islamic sect “D” declares that Islamic sects “A”, “B” and “C” have it all wrong…

…while Islamic sect “E” declares that Islamic sects “A”, “B”, “C” and “D” are filled with errors…

…while Islamic sect “F” declares…

Please, Holy Father, show me, for example, the definitive, if you will, Catechism of Islam.

Show me Islam’s version of the Papacy.

Show me Islam’s undisputed leader.

How can a religion that is divided hopelessly present an “authentic” version of itself?

7. Steve - July 26, 2014

Attempting to locate the “authentic” version of Islam is akin to attempting to locate the “authentic” version of Protestantism.

The same applies to locating the “authentic” version of Judaism.

How can we locate the “authentic” version of this or that religion when other than Catholicism, each religion is divided hopelessly?

So-called “authentic” Protestantism declares that Sunday is the true Sabbath.

Ummm…but wait. There are Protestant groups who declare that “authentic” Protestantism teaches that Sunday is not the true Sabbath.

“Authentic” Protestantism teaches that Catholics are Christians…except that various Protestants teach that “authentic” Protestantism recognizes Catholics as idol worshiping non-Christians.

“Authentic” Protestantism teaches that abortion is acceptable…priestesses are valid…the Holy Trinity is an “authentic” Protestant teaching….

…except that various Protestants teach that according to “authentic” Protestantism, abortion is unacceptable…priestesses are invalid…the Holy Trinity is a false teaching.

Sorry, but Protestantism is divided hopelessly.

Jewish sects, who teach very different things, are divided hopelessly.

Abortion, for example, is acceptable, according to various “authentic” Jewish sects.

Abortion, for example, is murder, according to various “authentic” Jewish sects.

With the exception of Catholicism, good luck attempting to find “authentic” versions of religions.

That underlines the utter futility of the ecumenical and “interfaith” movements.

8. Steve - July 26, 2014

I give credit to the Imam in question at the Vatican’s “prayer for peace” event in that at least he presented to Pope Francis and the world that which is so-called “authentic” Islam.

He acted in “authentic” Islamic fashion in that he was honest enough to have demonstrated his determination to conquer non-Muslims in the name of his God and his “authentic” version of Islam.

He was honest enough to have acknowledged that Moslems must seek the disappearance from earth of non-Islamic religions.

Oh…he also at least prayed in his sacred religious language.

(I believe that the Jewish representative prayed in Hebrew. Did Pope Francis pray in Latin?)

Yes, the imam in question is a no-holds-barred “authentic” believer in working to eliminate non-Islamic religions from earth.

Again, I give credit to the imam in question as he made clear his religious beliefs.

At least somebody finally brought reality to an “interfaith” event.

9. rov - July 28, 2014

Disputing what is and what is not “authentic” islam is silly. Evil is evil, whether it’s wearing the veneer of islam, protestantism, judaism, or any other false religion. By entering into the forest of half truths and falsehoods the naive, the innocent, and the curious will be scandalized and soon spouting the same errors. Best to avoid evil by fleeing it.

Tantumblogo - July 28, 2014

Yeah, well, you should have seen what I originally wrote before I toned it down.

10. Jim - July 28, 2014

Regarding the comment that there are many peaceful Muslims: Here is the best response to remaining silent in the face of evil by a Lebanese Christian woman.

Tantumblogo - July 28, 2014

Already posted here, but thanks!

11. Steve - July 28, 2014

It is important within the Church to discuss Islam.

During the past 50 or so years, our Popes and bishops (a few bishops have said otherwise) have insisted that “authentic” Islam is peaceful and praiseworthy.

Catholics need not fear “authentic” Islam, according to our Churchmen.

In fact, in the name of the “interfaith” movement, we are to praise “authentic” Islam, according to our Churchmen.

An “authentic” imam stood recently in the Vatican Gardens. He had been invited there by Pope Francis.

The “authentic” imam in question called upon Allah to trample non-Muslims.

For the first time in history, Popes, Cardinals and bishops do not hesitate to visit mosques…to pray within mosques.

Our Churchmen approve and applaud the construction of mosques.

Once upon a time, Popes, Cardinals and bishops attempted to resist Islam.

Today, the opposite is true.

In the meantime, in one part of the world after another, Islam tramples Catholics and others who profess allegiance to Jesus Christ.

Therefore, it is not “silly” for Christians to dispute “what is and what is not” authentic Islam.

The reality is that it is of vital importance, at least for Catholics, to determine whether our Churchmen’s positive assessment of Islam is warranted.

At this very second, in various parts of the world, some among our brothers and sisters in the Faith have been trampled, tortured and even murdered in the name of Islam.

I imagine that in regard to Islam, Catholics trampled by Moslems would have welcomed a serious debate.

Tantumblogo - July 28, 2014

Awesome response. I haven’t gone through the comments from the weekend yet, so I don’t know what’s being argued, just. But really good comment.

12. Steve - July 28, 2014

For 50 years now…

— Trust us…the new Mass has revitalized Latin Church liturgy.

— Trust us…abolishing mandatory Friday abstinence will actually enhance among Catholics the awareness of and need to perform penance.

— Trust us…Communion in the hand will enhance reverence toward and understanding of the Blessed Sacrament.

— Trust us…ecumenism will lead to the strengthening of the Faith among Catholics and spur non-Catholics to move closer to the Church.

— Trust us…the New Springtime is here.

— Trust us…EMs, altar girls and 1,001 additional novelties are not novelties…rather, they represent the continuity of Holy Tradition, Repeat after us…”novelties are not novelties.”

— Trust us…dismantling confessionals in favor of out-of-sight, out-of-mind “reconciliation rooms” will spur even more Catholics to go to Confession.

— Trust us…Islam is our friend.

13. Steve - July 28, 2014

Dear brothers and sisters, it upsets me in many ways to question Pope Francis’ positive assessment of Islam, or at least so-called “authentic” Islam.

In fact, the past 50 or so years of having watched the Catholic Church crumble in so many ways has left me exhausted.

I am from a background in which Popes, Cardinals, bishops were never questioned.

Actually, that is not in accord with Holy Tradition. But that is the manner in which I was formed.

But today, how can I not question the notion that Islam must be praised and glorified by our Churchmen?

Day after day, year after year from the headlines:

Moslems Attack Catholics…Moslems Bomb Church…Moslems Force Christians to Flee…Moslems Attack Jews…Moslems Attack Eastern Orthodox…Moslems Bomb Coptic Cathedral, Many Dead…

As I had indicated during my past post, for 50 or so years now, I have witnessed the destruction of one aspect after another of Catholicism.

Traditional Roman Mass overthrown…trust us, the new Mass will revitalize liturgy.

Confessionals gone. Ecumenism/”interfaith” movement embraced.

Communion in the hand. Altar girls. EMs.

Everything overthrown…novelty upon novelty…but supposedly, everything has remained the same.

Even when a Catholic has reached the end of his life, a novelty comes into play.

Cremation condemned from the beginning of the Church to now, when Church bulletins promote cremation.


The Rite of Baptism was changed. Therefore, you’re brought into the Church with a novelty.

Cremation is now embraced. Therefore, you can die having embraced a novelty.

From literally the beginning to the end of one’s Catholic life, our Churchmen have managed to change everything.

They have touched every aspect of our Catholic life with novelties.

Everything is new…but perfect continuity with Holy Tradition has been maintained supposedly.


For now, I am expected by our Churchmen to accept that Islam, once opposed by Churchmen, is good for Catholics.

In the meantime, in one part of the world after another, Islam tramples Catholics and others.

I am exhausted.

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