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Over half of Canadian religious over 80! September 29, 2014

Posted by Tantumblogo in Basics, disaster, Ecumenism, episcopate, error, foolishness, General Catholic, horror, religious, sadness, scandals, secularism, self-serving.

Reader GM sent me this link, a general waste-of-time product of a bishop’s conference, in this case, Canadian, but with one not so golden nugget:

In the afternoon, the Most Reverend John Corriveau, O.F.M. Cap., Bishop of Nelson, B.C., led a panel discussion on the challenges facing consecrated life today. Father George Smith, C.S.B., General Superior of the Basilian Fathers and Vice President of the Canadian Religious Conference (CRC), was invited to present an overview of the current situation of religious life in Canada. In 2013, there were over 17,000 religious men and women in Canada. Fifty percent were over 80 years old and only one percent under 40.

I guess there are not so many young and faithful religious orders in Canada as in the US?  Then again, the Conference of Canadia has always been several steps ahead of even the USCCB in dogmatic, lockstep leftism.  So, it is little surprise they have tolerated few relatively orthodox religious orders.

In a mostly unrelated note, I was at a conference taught by a local traditional priest wherein he remarked that Seder meals, Jewish meals that precede Passover, have been co-opted by a good number of Novus Ordo Catholics. The priest stressed his opinion that this aping of Jewish practice is due both to the starvation so many Catholics feel for things liturgical and significant, being accustomed to a thin diet of watered down post-conciliar gruel, and to a tendency to return to the old temptation of Judaizing.

The Judaizers were those early Catholics, all converts from Judaism, who thought the New Covenant demanded all the old sacrifices of the Old Covenant, especially male circumcision. Also demanded were Jewish dietary restrictions and some other things of various levels of import. Since most converts at this time were adults, circumcision was both very painful and very dangerous.  The dietary restrictions were annoying to some, difficult to others.  The Judaizers fomented the first crisis in the Church, necessitating the First Ecumenical Council at Jerusalem, probably around AD 65 or so.  This is the famous encounter when Saint Paul, not the Pope and not even a bishop, challenged and corrected the first Pope, Saint Peter, to his face, over Peter’s duplicity in sometimes supporting the Judaizers, and sometimes not (yes, I know the specific issue was about eating with them, but there were much larger implications).  It was also against the Judaizers that Saint Paul wrote the Letter to the Galatians, warning them to reject “the Law,” meaning the Old Mosaic Law, and to expect salvation only through Grace (and, by necessity, works done in cooperation with Grace).  This statement has of course been twisted by protestants to their own destruction, to mean not what Saint Paul said (don’t listen to the Judaizers dragging you back to the Old Covenant), but some made-up notion that works (of the law!) mean nothing, and only Grace avails.  That one bit of Scripture, taken radically out of context and standing in total isolation, as usual, forms the essential basis of almost all of evangelical protestantism in the US and now, around the world.  And it could not be more wrong.  But I digress……..

Is it not interesting how the errors come around, though?  Saint Paul writes a letter against one heresy, which is then taken up, nearly 2000 years later, by others, to justify their new heresy!  Too bad Saint Paul could not live to be 3000 years old, but that would not be fair to him, and there would still be some heretic in the year 3001 who would take his words and twist them to his own destruction.

That is why we need our glorious mother, the Church, to provide understanding on the meaning of many difficult passages of Sacred Scripture. But always remember, contra protestants, our Church is older than Scripture, and holds the divine means to decipher, and proclaim, the Truth Christ has revealed.

If only our leaders would do so in good conscience.  But I am a sinner, and not fit to judge.

Meh, sometimes I just can’t help myself.


1. Baseballmom - September 29, 2014

No surprise here…. Just look at the “Catholic” schools in Canada…. And their leadership.

2. Xryztofer - September 29, 2014

This is really sad for me to read. My mother is French-Canadian and grew up in Quebec City in the 40s and 50s when the semenaries and convents were bubbling over with vocations. To see what has become of the once glorious Catholicism in that city is absolutely heartbreaking. La Révolution tranquille… Seigneur, prends pitié.

Xryztofer - September 30, 2014

Make that “seminaries” (geez, mea maxima culpa for that one).

3. David - September 30, 2014

The Winnepeg statement made a huge impact in Canada. That was when a majority of Canadian bishops met in 1968 and voted not to accept Humanae Vitae. Many of these bishops are now deceased, so this statement may have been overturned in recent years.

I have heard that particularly in the Province of Quebec, church attendance is around 5 percent (yes, those beautiful old churches are empty).

I do know that some of the newer leadership (Kingston, Ontario for one) has instructed its priests to do more concrete preaching, and to bring up homilies related to the sanctity of life.

I do know of one religious order thriving in Canada, and that is the Companions of the Cross.

Tantumblogo - September 30, 2014

It has never been overturned. Some Canadian bishops have supported the Church’s consistent “life ethic,” others have not. But there has been no formal repudiation. Such things don’t happen in the post-conciliar Church, because the post-conciliar Church never makes a mistake! It remains a huge scandal.

4. David - October 1, 2014

I know of a few religious orders, the Society of Mary for example that have consolidated their provinces together in recent years, with a large part due to declining numbers. The Marianists unfortunately did some watering down.

I am also aware of religious orders that no longer staff parishes due to declining numbers. An old good Jesuit preached a homily in 2003 noting at that time out of 250 Jesuits in the New Orleans Province, 103 were 70+ years old.

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