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GOP frontrunner Trump reveals again there is no political solution to this country’s decay July 20, 2015

Posted by Tantumblogo in Basics, disconcerting, Ecumenism, General Catholic, paganism, rank stupidity, scandals, secularism, self-serving, Society.
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By frontrunner, I don’t mean he’s necessarily #1, but one of those polling best right now.

I know Trump has some appealing aspects, but he’s also very far from a conservative. He’s a rabid pro-abort, long-time Clinton supporter, generally very left-wing on all social issues, and thoroughly vainglorious.

He was invited to a social conservative forum in Iowa (which is one of the least representative states in the union, and, along with New Hampshire, has no business having such an outsized influence on the nomination process) and revealed what I believe has to be considered rank ignorance of any kind of relationship with God in his response.  If one does not acknowledge personal sin or need for forgiveness, what on earth did Jesus Christ die for?  I tend to imagine he is another unchurched coastal elitist who feels themselves very much beyond any need for a personal relationship with Jesus Christ or God.  Some of his responses below indicate a a probability that he finds god in himself:

“Have you ever asked God for forgiveness?”  Answer: No, I don’t think so.

“When I do something wrong, I just try and make it right.  I don’t think I bring ‘God’ into that picture.”

Once again, the very essence of Christianity is that Jesus Christ made eternal salvation possible for all of us by dying for our sins.  Even a Calvinist knows that they are to have at least internal contrition for their sins.

Referring to Communion – even in a Presbyterian context – as “drinking my little wine and eating my little cracker” is to me flippant and even tending towards disrespectful.  Following that up with “I do that as often as possible because I feel cleansed” was to me a panic line made when he realized he was failing badly, and had probably tipped his hand too much with the crack about Communion.

He consistently ignores the meaning of the question, segueing into topics he apparently finds more comforting.  He then makes the now pretty well known and roundly condemned statement regarding John McCain’s military service.  I’ll just skip that particular bit of political theater.

Trump is probably a tempest in a teapot who is enjoying this additional PR and will probably be gone from the race by March of next year.  But he is emblematic of a field – from both major parties – that is as problematic as it is likely to be ineffectual.  This country is really beyond personal salvation.  I do not know how we can expect a population as increasingly amoral and separated from God(more, contrary to God) to elect moral and virtuous leadership.  More and more, it seems to make very little difference which party holds office, the same policies are enacted, the culture continues to decay, debt continues to accumulate, and souls fall into perdition.

I don’t say this to be cynical, but realist. At the state and local level, depending on where you’re at, involvement in politics can still result in some good being done.  I think Texas is one state in particular where this is possible.  But at the federal level, it seems self-interest, the power of lobbyists, the amount of money thrown around, and the allurements of power, sex, pride, etc. all tend to make service at the federal level all-corrupting for even relatively good, solid, conservative men.  I was reading yesterday about how Barry Goldwater – Mr. Conservative himself, the man who found in Eisenhower an intolerable leftist! – gradually fell to the progressive zeitgeist dominant in Washington DC over the course of his several decades in office.  He is hardly the first, or last.  Orrin Hatch, when first elected in the late 70s used to be the stuff of progressive nightmares, now he is thoroughly squishy, and very much wealthier than when he entered office.  Chuck Grassley, Pat Roberts, John Thune, Richard Shelby all seem much less conservative than they once were, and even the usually reliable Tom Coburn turned squishy at the end.

A largely godless and immoral constituency cannot be expected to elect moral, God-fearing (let alone Catholic) leadership.  That’s a prime reason why I think this nation’s current political construct will not be able to stand.

But when we dream about Texas Independence, can we really believe that things would be any different?

Comments

1. Cristero - July 20, 2015

I’d support Texas Independence, but I’m not going to put any energy into it specifically for the question you ask. In the end, would it be any better, or would we just wind up with another masono-protestant mish-mash of corrupt politicians?

But I’ll tell you this. The one potential benefit would be availing ourselves of the Catholic social doctrine of subsidiarity. Having it all closer to home would be a great benefit.

Texas is by all means viable as an independent country.

We just keep it out of the UN and move the capital somewhere that does not have whatever Austin has in the water or the air. Have the President of Texas consecrate the country to the Sacred and Immaculate hearts and keep the powder dry.

2. c matt - July 20, 2015

It will have to be different. Texas independence will not likely come by choice, but by necessity through collapse of the central US government. Although it will be a “when,” not “if,” that collapse could still be a hundred years or more off. Anyway, because of the severity of collapse and widespread misery it will entail, people won’t have the luxury to deal in foolishness we see today. When you are trying to scratch for your daily bread, fretting about “inclusiveness” for homosexual marriage isn’t even on the radar. As is always the case, the general populace will suddenly become God-fearing again (just ask the Israelites).

3. MFG - July 20, 2015

One turning point would be when evangelical protestants finally separate America/constitution from their religious outlook. Many are still wedded to the notion that America and her government is a type of eden (my poor choice of words). Especially in Texas, if they can recognize this and detach themselves from this false viewpoint, that’s when things will get interesting.

On another matter – if the Bishops preached the Gospel like Trump speaks his mind (he doesn’t care about offending people) where would our Church and country be in just a few weeks time?

4. culture warrior - July 20, 2015

The main witnessing that Catholics do has been at slaughterhouses. Our decline has been precipitous, but if we start evangelizing, maybe even door to door, or do what the Mormons do, which has been very effective, we could buy this country a few more decades. In this, we should have some hope. But not if we keep sitting on our tails. Good for you for your activity in front of the brothels.

5. Elizabeth - July 21, 2015

Trump can’t be gone soon enough for me. I found his comment about the “little wine and little cracker” even more offensive than his much publicized comments about McCain and POWs. And his admission that he’s never asked God for forgiveness. This guy has never met the concept of humility, that’s for sure.

My guy is Perry. He may not be a Catholic but he seems to be a good and decent man who’s done great things for Texas. Seems to me a proven leader who can get things done. 🙂 (Sorry for my little campaign plug for Perry.)

c matt - July 21, 2015

But in his denomination, it is only a little wine and little cracker.

c matt - July 21, 2015

But in his denomination, it is only a little wine and a little cracker. I don’t think he was referring to anything outside his group (Presbyterian?).

Cristero - July 21, 2015

Agree re: Trump.

Perry was willing to promote the Trans-Texas Corridor and did so. We should take that into consideration. It was an important sell-out.

6. Pseudodionysius - July 21, 2015

Read Mark Steyn’s “The Superbowl of Superholes” Brilliant.


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