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Reason #9948 why America is doomed July 24, 2015

Posted by Tantumblogo in Admin, asshatery, Basics, foolishness, huh?, non squitur, paganism, silliness, Society.
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Goofy Friday non sequitur post ahead.

Look, I get it, not everyone likes McDonald’s.  They have issues.  I’m rather cold to their lunch/dinner items, but I’ve always thought their breakfasts were pretty good.

But who are these people – “millenials” apparently – who have never had McDonald’s before, or at least the breakfast?  And why do they pretend as if they’ve never seen a burrito or some kind of a wrapped sandwich?  I’m calling BS on this. I’m calling “I’m so above the hoi polloi I don’t even know what this pre-packaged food for the masses is.”

But I’m calling more than that.  Wait and see:

First, I bet most of these people are BuzzFeed interns/hangers on.  I sincerely doubt their randomness.

 

I will admit, when I first saw Zach, I had an irresistible urge to do something cruel.  But as I watched the video I found him slightly more tolerable, but still highly annoying.

Let’s look at his statement: “When I was older, I started loving Chick Fil A, then Chick Fil A started hating gay people.”

Now what would prompt a person to make that kind of statement in this environment?  Let’s assume he is just a “man off the street” who has never had McDonald’s.  This is what he comes with?  Some radical sodo-propaganda?  Why would Chick Fil A’s now abandoned stand for marriage cause him such angst that he is still assaulting random strangers about it, even 2  years after they caved?

And yet I see statements like this all the time. I was watching some review about True Detective Season II on Youtube and the reviewer, for no apparent reason, spent the first five minutes of the review just bashing Christians and other “homophobes.”  It was completely out of left field.

My belief is, people do not make statements like this out of real conviction.  They may think that’s their motivation, but the statements are too of a kind, too plainly simply a regurgitation of propaganda they’ve heard elsewhere, to really come from a “this is something I believe down to my core” kind of motivation.

I think these kinds of reflexive ejaculations of propaganda are made for two primary reasons: a kind of gnostic tribalism, signalling oneself to be above the “other,” and base fear.  Fear at being “outed” from the elite one craves to belong to.

That this belonging is almost always a total illusion only reinforces the craving to belong. This tendency seems incredibly common among millenials in particular, who, to my old grey mind, seem to be so easily manipulated by social propaganda as to essentially stand for nothing.  Whatever the “hip”  sources (what is that: Reddit, Buzzfeed, Tumblr, Gawker?) tell them to believe, they’ll parrot that like the most zealous Hitler Youth at Nuremberg in 1935.

I wonder if these people (save maybe for the Aussie?) have any idea how shallow and……dare I say it?……fake they come across.  Every reaction seems contrived, to prove some point (I’m above this).

No I do not mean to pick upon you, or your kids, I’m speaking in generalities.  I know folks in the ostensible “millenial” age range that are very much grounded in reality and who have substantial personalities in their own right.

I guess my major beef with this – and I don’t mean to come off as some McDonald’s shill because I’m not, I eat there but only on occasion – is that it seems so contrived.  And I think so much of our culture today is just that: contrived. Political theater, constant 24/7 entertainment for the masses, people dealing in shallowness, and very few having the time or inclination to go a bit deeper, to say what people have always said: why am I here?  What does this mean?  We Christians, thanks be to God, have the answers. But there are so, so many lost souls out there who do not.  I think that video struck me as emblematic of that. There are so many people, especially young people, who are essentially groundless, and thus move with whatever they perceive to be the strongest breeze blowing through the culture.

But then again, a cigar is sometimes just a cigar.

 

Comments

1. Judy - July 24, 2015

I get what you mean about it being contrived. I would like to call BS on all the people who upload videos to YouTube and then act so surprised when something goes viral, catching the imagination of the public. “I had no idea. I just put it up on a site that the whole world uses strictly for the enjoyment of my family.” Yeah, right.
Remember when people had to do something actually noteworthy to get their 15 minutes?
(I eat McDonald’s fries. Even in a third world country, it is safe to eat french fries. And my youngest three think the hotcakes are a huge treat when the big kids are gone on a Saturday.)

2. Tim - July 24, 2015
3. Baseballmom - July 24, 2015

“Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar.” LOL! Tell that to a slick Willie….

4. RVBlake - July 24, 2015

If these are the leaders of tomorrow, I’m glad I won’t be here to see it. This ad combines two of my fave dislikes: Corporate crap and young people. I know that’s a generalization but, as is often the case, I don’t care.

5. tg - July 24, 2015

I’m fasting and you just me get more hungry. I like their breakfast and like you only eat it now and then. I agree with what you say about young people. Some of them are so phony. It’s like they want to agree with each other and if you give a different opinion, you’re negative. I pray my grandchildren don’t become like that.

6. Baseballmom - July 24, 2015

You call BS and I agree…. But I also call “SB” – as in SPOILED BRATS. Phoney baloney brats. But, it is what we have allowed…

RVBlake - July 24, 2015

I’m not familiar with all the tribes of contemporary American culture, but I’m guessing that Zach is a hipster; snippy, snarky, and effeminate.

7. Kate - July 25, 2015

I’ve noticed on Facebook a trend of McDonald’s shaming whenever the restaurant is brought up in a news article. People unmercifully shame if someone dares mention they get their kids a happy meal once in awhile. As if it were a mortal sin!

8. Guest - July 25, 2015

It’s not just kids. If you study science in university you better pretend to believe in evolution or that GM food is good for the world. Never mind how stupid it is to let people who want to reduce the population by 90% modify your food, you have to believe it because members of the scientific clique say so. To be a good conservative you have to believe capitalism is a moral economic system. If you don’t you must be a socialist. The people who don’t give a damn about conforming to stereotypes are vilified by people both for and against an issue.

camper - July 26, 2015

At the risk of being banned I write that you’re a menace to civilization and that both Pius IX and St. Thomas thoroughly condemn you. St. Thomas condemns the graduated income tax in I-IIae Q. 96, Art. 4 of the Summa, in which he writes that burdens that government puts on society must be equal in proportion. That rules out the graduated income tax and therefore the welfare state as we know it. I know that because you read this blog, you are of good will, but if you value your immortal soul then you need to stop attacking property. Pius IX condemned your position in paragraph #20 of Nostis et Nobiscum in which he wrote that not only are we not allowed to use the government for the transfer of public money to private ends, we are not allowed even to covet that public money.

You are a partial communist. That’s the most accurate term for you.

Hell is forever. Don’t choose to go there, and don’t vote for anything except for the respect for property. A vote for the left is always intrinsically evil because it does not respect property.

Tim Thunell - July 26, 2015

Who are you addressing?

Brian - July 26, 2015

There are many menaces to society, but I seriously doubt anyone who has found this fine blog is one of them. Even if their opinion is contrary to yours, mine or more importantly the author of this site.

It was a happier day when we were certain of our socio-political system and we could complain about simple things like french fries and stupid ads. Now we are chewing on heavier things.

In regards to your point, I agree that Communism may be the most evil murderous system of rule yet devised by man, (or the occupants of hell). However, I am not as sanguine as you about the merits of capitalism. As with so many things on earth, it is the role of Holy Mother Church to PURIFY the system and point it and its subjects to God. That may not be possible with a diabolical system like communism, but capitalism without the strong, living influence of The Kingdom of God can be every bit as evil and rapacious.

That is why I am so DEEPLY troubled at the Church’s departure from its proper realm of the Heavens in trade for mixing it up and choosing sides in the futile and ultimately evil realm of the “Caesars” and the City of Man”. That is a serious rupture in the proper order of things, and it dooms systems like capitalism and property rights to certain failure and violence.

Baseballmom - July 27, 2015

Amen. The Church is charged with making men saints…. A man can be a free market economist and a saint (I know some of these who are awesome, anonymous benefactors of orthodox apostolates) but he cannot be a communist and a saint. That would be an oxymoron.

Guest - July 27, 2015

Excuse me sir, but this type on nonsense is what I am talking about. I am neither a capitalist or a socialist. I will not conform to your stereotypes. Maybe you need to read the book “How Christ Changed the World” to understand Catholic social teachings.

Brian - July 27, 2015

I am a Christian. It is the only label that means anything to me.

Tantumblogo - July 27, 2015

Thanks. I cannot win. I get blasted for being insufficiently distributist, and I get blasted for having reservations about the current capitalist-socialist melange we get sold as “capitalism.”

I’ve been very clear and straight up – if capitalism is the free exchange of goods and services at agreed up on rates, I’m all for it. It’s pretty much the default setting for all human commerce , no?

Tim - July 27, 2015

As Fr. Hesse said once, “I’m not liberal and I’m not conservative, I’m just plain Catholic.” Nuf said.

camper - July 27, 2015

It isn’t nonsense. If you haven’t attended Thomas Aquinas College in California, which by the way, is slightly left-wing, or studied under a very similar system, than you are contemptibly ignorant. Read this:

http://www.thomasaquinas.edu/a-liberating-education/popes-st-thomas

History doesn’t perfect (or educate) the mind; for that, one has to study philosophy or theology. For Catholics to study those two subjects means studying Aristotle and St. Thomas, respectively. The proper answer when St. Thomas says jump is, “How high, St. Thomas?” So when he condemns unequal burdens, YOU SHOULD TREMBLE.

The welfare state is the use of the government for private ends. Therefore, it has nothing to do with the common good and should be banned, and Leo XIII needs to be condemned for having supported it. Pius IX condemned Leo’s teaching in Nostis et Nobiscum, 1849.

Politics has a moral dimension, and fiscal responsibility is part of that moral dimension. Property is the base and bond of society:

http://www.traditioninaction.org/religious/n041rp_Inequalities.htm

The reason that bishops and priests rarely discuss politics is because the Church is full of modernists and because LBJ silenced the Church and Protestant pulpits with a tax law he passed in the 1950s.

IF THERE WERE REAL JUSTICE IN THE CHURCH, MEN WHO OPPOSE STRICT CAPITALISM WOULD BE THREATENED WITH EXCOMMUNICATION. PROPERTY IS HOLY, AND YOU ARE A MENACE.

Brian - July 28, 2015

I think you got a bad batch. You are not making a lot of sense. Try again in the morning.

Guest - July 28, 2015

It’s nonsense to say that if you don’t support the current capitalist system you are a communist. Should every college educated Catholic believe in evolution? Again I recommend you read the book “How Christ Changed The World” (a book from before Vatican II). The common good is a concept that many conservatives associate with communism. The fact is none of property truly belongs to ourselves or society but to God, and we will have to give an account for how we use them.

camper - July 27, 2015

BTW, I know well that the rich can oppress the poor. After all, the Fraternity teaches it. It is one of the sins that cries to Heaven for vengeance. I just deny that a minimum wage law is the way to combat it. I propose canonical penalties instead. Second, my posts here should not be construed as an attack on anything Tantum has written. He’s quite right-wing, and on government policy is at least on the right track, if not a champion of the truth himself.

Tantumblogo - July 27, 2015

Minimum wage law what? If you don’t attend one college you’re contemptibly ignorant? Nice to know how you feel. Sheesh setttle down.

You’ve had a tendency to repeatedly read far too much into passing statements or get the meaning behind them entirely wrong. We don’t need gratuitous insults on this blog.

camper - July 28, 2015

Dear Tantum,
Above all, I don’t want to be banned, but “Guest” proposed that capitalism is not a moral economic system. This is an evil view and implies that the poster does not respect property when he votes. Guest called my view nonsense. Brian said that capitalism can be as bad as Marxism, which is also false. The fastest, and perhaps the only, way to argue from my point of view is to announce that Thomas Aquinas College is not only superior to all other colleges in the world, but that those who haven’t been trained in a way similar to this college are contemptibly ignorant in the liberal arts, which is the truth. Fr. Berg, General of the FSSP, is a graduate of TAC, and another graduate was the co-founder of Clear Creek. Don’t want to hurt anyone’s feelings, but the oppression of the rich was proposed multiple times in a country in which the rich have no real defense and I decided to win the argument decisively. I don’t want to be banned, but if you get onto anyone, it should be them, not me. I didn’t make any gratuitous insults. They needed to be put in their places, and I knew of no other way to do it.

I inform you that I’ve suffered a lot personally because of democracy and its left-wing policies – policies that these posters may well support.

And I shouldn’t have to spend so much time defending myself on this issue either. When one knows a lot, and sacrifices a lot to do the right thing, one gets tired of those spouting evil who neither know nor sacrifice.

To save yourself (Tantum) the trouble of considering another message, I’ll at least try to include next time a “no offense, but ” before writing that they are contemptibly ignorant. More charity for the misguided.

Tantumblogo - July 28, 2015

If it were me, I might have asked guest to explain what they meant by that comment, rather than assuming you knew just what they meant from a vague and passing reference. I have little problem with capitalism at its essence, though I have significant problems with what is often promoted as capitalism – but is really corporate cronyist semi-socialism – so I am never quite certain what people mean by that term. And it is the latter, what passes for capitalism in the West today, that a good number of serious Catholics have problems with.

camper - July 29, 2015

I didn’t ask this man his views because I already knew them. 99% of those “Catholcis” who refuse to claim to be capitalists are distributists. They’re highly predictable Tantum. I’ve been in these debates quite a bit before, and I’ve got my trusty knowledge of St. Thomas, so I know how they go. I hope you see now why it was right for me to brusquely attempt to silence these two men.

9. Brian - July 25, 2015

McDonalds lost me about three years ago when they hopped on board the Michelle O. train and tried to force feed my family “healthy portions”.

For many years we’ve taken our family to Micky D’s for Happy Meals and free time in their Big Toy. Then we noticed that the frie package shrank to middle finger size and included a grand total of 6 fries, to go along with a new package of chemically treated apple slices.

For our own good, I’m sure. For all I know, there are now Happy Meal regulations governing such things for the Collective. Sheesh!

10. alo - July 27, 2015

homophobe = fear of sameness
as obtuse a word as the people who use it

c matt - July 27, 2015

Interesting – that actually makes sense, because homosexuality denies the complementarity of the sexes. Thus, to be homophile is to favor sameness; to be a homophobe is to “fear” sameness , or lack of complementarity (although fear is not really the right word, need to find a Greek suffix for “disapprove of,” “dislike” or “disgusted by”). So who are the true diversity celebrators now!!!

11. Guest - July 28, 2015

Here’s a primer as to why Capitalism is liberal economics:

http://www.catholicapologetics.info/morality/money/enomics.htm

The moral law has to be the primary consideration. The Capitalism that many conservatives and libertarians push does not do so. Again, anyone interested in learning Catholic social teaching should read “How Christ Changed the World”. It’s available for free online at Catholic Tradition. It is an eye opener. I have nothing more to say.

Brian - July 28, 2015

Viva Cristo Rey! Long live Christ the King!

camper - July 29, 2015

I wholeheartedly agree that the moral law has to be the primary consideration. That’s why I condemn you and Hillaire Belloc. The distributists believed that it was moral to use the government, which should be oriented to the common good, not private good, for private ends – distributism. This chiefly took the form of the use of the graduated income tax to plunder the rich. St. Thomas condemns unequal burdens in I-II Q. 96, Art. 4. I believe I already mentioned this. You’re ignorant of economics and you’re a menace to civilization.

Furthermore, there is generally no arguing with leftists. They think that their hunger sanctifies oppression and economic decline, but it doesn’t. There is nothing holy about oppression or economic decline or weakness. Your movement comes from democracy – the idea that the voice of the people is the voice of God.

The author you cite praises marxism: “Marxist Communism did a good and much-needed work”. Horsefeathers.

You’re ignorant of St. Thomas. You refuse to give him his due. You have lost the argument. That doesn’t even get into Nostis et Nobiscum, which HELLO was cited in the Syllabus of Errors.

camper - July 29, 2015

I forgot to add that Belloc approved of the French Revolution and MUSSOLINI.

http://www.traditioninaction.org/HotTopics/j013htBelloc_FR_1.htm

http://www.traditioninaction.org/HotTopics/j025htBelloc_Fascism.htm

If there were real justice in the Church you would be silenced.


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