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More like this: Bishop Kagan of Bismarck bans Boy Scouts from Diocese August 5, 2015

Posted by Tantumblogo in awesomeness, Basics, episcopate, General Catholic, Glory, Grace, paganism, persecution, scandals, secularism, sexual depravity, Society, true leadership, Virtue.

Yes, much, much more like this.  Good for Bishop Kagan!  I add emphasis in the second paragraph and comments:

Dear Faithful Catholics of the Diocese of Bismarck,

Much has happened during the course of the last few weeks. First, I am most grateful to you for your cooperation and support in listening to my letter during Mass this past weekend. The decision on marriage by the U.S. Supreme Court is having real and unwelcome consequences in many areas of our daily lives and I expect that it will only get worse. If you would like to read my letter, click on this link: http://www.bismarckdiocese.com/news/letter-from-bishop-prayerful-encouragement.  [This is one of the better responses from a bishop I’ve read on the diabolical Obergefell decision.  That Anthony Kennedy has not been excommunicated is a scandal of the highest order.]

Second, and as expected, the Boy Scouts of America voted to admit openly gay adults into the organization to hold leadership positions. While there are indications that the BSA has a religious organization exception, which each local troop could invoke, that will provide no protection for any of our parishes and/or schools, which sponsor troops. [Whoa.  That’s a most significant declaration.  Does anyone versed in the law know why this might be?  So what Bishop Kagan appears to be saying is that even though the troop might be able to invoke a religious exemption, merely having a Boy Scout troop present could serve as a legal precedent to force Catholic parishes and schools to admit open sodomites to various positions?  That seems quite probable, and very disconcerting, considering how few dioceses are taking actions to similarly ban the Twink Scouts]Thus, effective immediately, the Catholic Church of the Diocese of Bismarck and each and every one of its parishes, schools and other institutions, is formally disaffiliated with and from the Boy Scouts of America. If your parish sponsors a troop, your priest has been asked to inform those persons associated with the BSA of this action and to inform the BSA itself of this decision. I regret my decision but, in conscience as the Chief Shepherd of the Diocese of Bismarck, I cannot permit our Catholic institutions to accept and participate directly or indirectly in any organization, which has policies and methods, which contradict the authoritative moral teachings of the Catholic Church.[Absolutely right!  Finally a bit of clarity and defense of truth!]

Third, I list here for your consideration acceptable alternatives for our Catholic children and youth, should you wish to offer this in your parish and/or school.  There are two very good alternatives to the Girl Scouts of America. They are:  American Heritage Girls (americanheritagegirls.org), which has a National Catholic Committee;  Little Flowers’ Girls Clubs (eccehomopress.com); and  Federation of North American Explorers (fneexplorers.com). There are three alternatives to the Boy Scouts of America, which are acceptable. They are:  Federation of North American Explorers (fneexplorers.com); Columbian Squires (kofc.org/un/en/squires); and Trail Life USA (traillifeusa.com), which has a National Catholic Committee in Front Royal, VA.

Odd that he does not list the Troops of St. George? Any idea why that might be, given that the Troops of St. George are explicitly Catholic and adhere to the onerous “safe environment” protocol? I’d be careful with American Heritage Girls and Trail Life, both are overwhelmingly evangelical and there have been reports of proselytizing and low-key persecution of Catholics who join.  I have heard some good things about the North American Explorers but don’t know much about them.

God bless Bishop Kagan!  May he be blessed for his recent defense of the Faith.  I don’t know much about him, and I’m not sure he’s what one would consider a real hero to the Faith, but this action deserves support and recognition. Would that more bishops would exercise their leadership in this manner.




1. David L Alexander - August 5, 2015

“Odd that he does not list the Troops of St. George? Any idea why that might be, given that the Troops of St. George are explicitly Catholic and adhere to the onerous ‘safe environment’ protocol?”

A number of the programs mentioned by the good bishop have both advantages and disadvantages. The reasons for the Troops of Saint George not being mentioned could vary.

For one thing, most of the other organizations already have a presence in that part of North Dakota, whereas TSG has no presence at this time (judging from their website) in either North or South Dakota. Additionally, while given a great deal of attention in Catholic new media two years ago, due to the visibility of their founder, TSG experienced considerable difficulty the first year or so in getting the organization running.

The challenges menitoned above might be expected, as these endeavors hardly set themselves up overnight, let alone are they able to provide the opportunities that the BSA has done for more than a century, before this unfortunate chain of events.

2. Baseballmom - August 5, 2015

Yes, God bless him and keep him in safety.

3. tg - August 5, 2015

God this bishop. I wish others would do the same.

4. David - August 5, 2015

The Good Bishop may not yet be aware of the existence of Troops of St. George. Give Dr.Marshall his name.

By the way, I recall two years ago Fr. Jim Hart , Priest-in-charge at St. Elizabeth Ann Seton in Keller (Ft. Worth Diocese), dismissed the Boy Scout troop after the other decision was made. There is a Troop of St. George in Keller. Fr. Hart is a priest I respect – he helped me understand the Real Presence.

5. Tim - August 5, 2015

God Bless him. I wonder when he will be joining Cardinal Burke in Malta? If the likes of Dolan and Wuerhl get their way with this Bishop it will be:

6. RVBlake - August 5, 2015

Sounds like a neo-Pelagian triumphalist to me…bet he counts Rosaries, too.

7. richardmalcolm1564 - August 5, 2015

He may not have known about the Troops of St. George. I’d imagine he would probably amend the letter or add a note on the website if people with the Troops wrote him and asked.

8. red6020 - August 6, 2015

“Does anyone versed in the law know why this might be? ”

I believe what the bishop’s referring to (or what he could be referring to) is Boy Scouts of America vs. Dale (2000).

It’s actually a pretty landmark case when it comes to freedom of association law and addresses the same organization and the same exact policy.

Background: New Jersey’s statutes prevented public discrimination on the basis of “sexual orientation”. As we all know, the Boy Scouts used to prevent people from being members because of their “sexual orientation”. So, someone sues.

Relevant quotes: “To determine whether a group is protected by the First Amendment’s expressive associational right, a court must determine whether the group engages in “expressive association.” . . . But to come within its ambit, a group must engage in some form of expression, whether it be public or private.”

And: “On issues concerning freedom of association, just as a court gives deference to an association’s assertions regarding the nature of its expression, the court must also give deference to an association’s view of what would impair its expression.”

And: “We have already concluded that a state requirement that the Boy Scouts retain Dale as an assistant scoutmaster would significantly burden the organization’s right to oppose or disfavor homosexual conduct. The state interests embodied in New Jersey’s public accommodations law do not justify such a severe intrusion on the Boy Scouts’ rights to freedom of expressive association. That being the case, we hold that the First Amendment prohibits the State from imposing such a requirement through the application of its public accommodations law.”

Most relevant: “The Boy Scouts takes an official position with respect to homosexual conduct, and that is sufficient for First Amendment purposes. ”

Applying it to the new decision, if the Boy Scouts no take an official position with respect to homosexual conduct. If the Boy Scouts no longer hold this view, then it’s impossible to arrive at a position where admitting homosexuals burdens a view you don’t even hold.

Even at the troop level, how can you say that having a homosexual as a leader or fellow scout burdens your freedom of expression and association when you send your scouts to local, regional, and national functions which have homosexuals both as leaders and as fellow scouts?

There are some people (liberals or moderates typically) who will say this won’t happen because they’re trying to tamp down conservative fears. “Aww, those awful conservatives, always acting like the sky is falling.” However, either I don’t think they’re being honest or they just don’t understand the case law.

So, it’s not just in the off-chance that one of the “right-wing” 5 justices dies and is replaced by a liberal justice that religious troops in the BSA would have to worry.

Even under current law, I think the change in policy changes their protections. I think the bishop’s right here.

9. David - August 10, 2015


I read yesterday that Bishop Folda from the Diocese of Fargo, North Dakota issued a similar statement.

I will have to go back and read the statement from the National Catholic Committee on Scouting. The story I found sounds like they weren’t pleased with the BSA decision, but were going to go along with it.

The religious exemption will be hard to enforce, unless the chartering organization micromanages the troop operations. My experience as a Scout was the chartering organization provided us a place to meet, and then left us alone.

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