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That didn’t last 48 hours. Vatican now throws Kim Davis under the bus October 2, 2015

Posted by Tantumblogo in abdication of duty, Basics, different religion, disaster, episcopate, error, foolishness, General Catholic, Papa, scandals, secularism, self-serving, sickness, Society, SOD, the struggle for the Church.

I strongly suspected the reports from Kim Davis’ circle of her positive meeting and support from Pope Francis would not last long. The Vatican is now backing off claims that she had an “audience,” but instead says that she was just one of many people greeted that day:

In an official statement this morning, Fr. Federico Lombardi, head of the Vatican press office downplayed Pope Francis’ meeting with Kim Davis.

“Pope Francis met with several dozen persons who had been invited by the Nunciature to greet him as he prepared to leave Washington for New York City,” said Lombardi. “Such brief greetings occur on all papal visits and are due to the Pope’s characteristic kindness and availability.” [That does not mean he did not meet with Davis one on one.  This is spin, it’s not a lie but it’s not the truth, either]

“The only real audience granted by the Pope at the Nunciature was with one of his former students and his family,” Fr. Lombardi added.  [So now we’re down to parsing what a “real” audience is?]

The Vatican explained that the “brief” meeting between the Pope and Davis has “continued to provoke comments and discussion” and thus offered his explanation “in order to contribute to an objective understanding of what transpired.” [We’re trying desperately to placate harsh criticism in the US media and probably among the gay lobby in the Vatican.  So now the media knows that a little pressure works in rolling this Pope, as if they didn’t know before.  And don’t tell me this is the Vatican press office going off like a loose cannon.  In this most authoritarian of pontificates, nothing “just happens.”]

Fr. Lombardi said, “The Pope did not enter into the details of the situation of Mrs. Davis and his meeting with her should not be considered a form of support of her position in all of its particular and complex aspects.” [Complex?!?  She thinks sodomite marriage an offense against God and nature. She will have no part in it.  Not hard to understand]

News that the pope had secretly met with Davis during his trip to the U.S. broke on Tuesday evening, after her lawyer made the meeting public. Davis said that Francis had told her to “stay strong,” giving both her and her husband a rosary. “Please pray for me,” he requested………

………In a new statement today, Davis’ lawyer, Mat Staver, Founder and Chairman of Liberty Counsel, disputed reports circulating in light of the Vatican’s newest statement suggesting that Davis had simply met the pope as one in a line of people.

“There were no other people in the room,” he said. “This was a private meeting between Pope Francis and Kim and Joe Davis. This was not a meeting with other people in which Kim and Joe Davis were a part, but rather a private meeting with no other people in the room except Vatican security and personnel.”

Staver acknowledged that the pope “was not weighing in on particular facts of a legal case,” but added that “his statements about religious freedom and his encouragement to Kim Davis to ‘stray strong’ during a private meeting reaffirm the human right to conscientious objection. This is a right for everyone.”

Staver also said that the meeting was initiated by the Vatican, an apparent response to speculation that the meeting with the pope may have been arranged by a conservative bishop in the U.S., perhaps without the full knowledge of the Vatican or the pope about Davis’ case…….

…….[And now we get the spin of uber-weasel Fr. Tom Rosica]However, English-language spokesman for the Vatican, Fr. Thomas Rosica, placed the responsibility for the meeting in the hands of U.S. papal nuncio Archbishop Carlo Maria Viganò.

“Who brought her in? The nuncio,” Father Rosica told the New York Times. “The Nunciature was able to bring in donors, benefactors.”

Fr. Rosica added: ““I would simply say: Her case is a very complex case. It’s got all kinds of intricacies. Was there an opportunity to brief the pope on this beforehand? I don’t think so. A list is given — these are the people you are going to meet.”

Rosica responded to a question about whether the Vatican press office had been unaware of the pope’s meeting with Davis, saying: “No, but I think we may not have been aware of the full impact of the meeting. It is very difficult sometimes when you are looking at things in America from here.” [How about let your yes be yes and your no be no, Fr. Tom?]

The force is strong in the sodomite mafia.  Whether the pressure came from a US media gone over full bore into advocacy for perversion, or from the still extant sodomite lobby in the Vatican (or both), the Vatican has changed its tune.  They are throwing Kim Davis under the bus.  The Davis camp clearly refutes the Vatican allegations. I hope someone recorded the visit.  This could get ugly before it’s over.

Oh what tangled webs we weave when first we practice to deceive!   But whatever the reason for this meeting with Davis, the Synod will make all quite clear.



1. Don - October 2, 2015

CAUTION! Amchurch at work. YMMV

Our Lady of Fatima, pray for us.


2. H-town - October 2, 2015

The most important thing I thought the pope did on his visit and now they’re backtracking. Yes indeed, a taste of things to come in the synod.

3. tg - October 2, 2015

I wonder what the Pollyanas will say now.

4. tg - October 2, 2015

Tantum, have you asked the FSSP priests what the faithful should do if God forbid, the church will bless sodomite unions? Not all of us have traditional parishes near by. There is only priest I really trust in my diocese. He is not in my parish but in a little bitty town south of Temple. He doesn’t say the Latin Mass but he is very orthodox and speaks the truth at homilies.

5. Baseballmom - October 2, 2015

I really do not think this garbage can last much longer. Although terrible things occurred in the past, today the whole world sees what is happening in the Church. Can our Dear Lord continue to allow it much longer? I think not.

6. Barbara Hvilivitzky - October 2, 2015

tg, I think this will be left to each Bishop to coordinate in his diocese. Many priests will not be asked to commit to the horror. It will be obvious which will do it and which will not. Just get in your car and drive!!

7. Woody - October 2, 2015

Pope Francis is probably the first pope that is a cafeteria catholic.

Baseballmom - October 3, 2015


8. ankenyman - October 2, 2015

“The only real audience granted by the Pope at the Nunciature was with one of his former students and his family,” Fr. Lombardi added.

Turns out this audience was the gay activist and his boyfriend and family. Interesting that the Vatican did not feel the need to qualify this meeting and say it wasn’t a show of support, like they did with Davis.

9. autumn111155551 - October 3, 2015

The Vatican didn’t feel the need to downplay the meeting with a pro-abortion nun. Sad.

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