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These quotes from St. Basil may help you weather the post-synodal depression October 26, 2015

Posted by Tantumblogo in Basics, catachesis, different religion, disaster, error, foolishness, General Catholic, horror, Latin Mass, Papa, Revolution, scandals, secularism, self-serving, Society, SOD, the struggle for the Church.

I found these quotes from St. Basil uploaded by Hilary White very edifying.  They tie in very well with the book I mentioned in the previous post, Phoenix From The Ashes:

Religious people keep silence, but every blaspheming tongue is let loose. 
Sacred things are profaned; those of the laity who are sound in the Faith avoid
the places of worship as schools of impiety, and raise their hands in solitude,
with groans and tears to the Lord in Heaven.”

Four years after, he writes: “Matters have come to this pass: the people have left
their houses of prayer, and assembled in the deserts
, – a pitiable sight; women
and children, old men, and men otherwise infirm, wretchedly faring in the open air,
amid most profuse rains and snowstorms and winds and frosts of winter; and again in
summer under a scorching sun. To this they submit, because they will have no part
of the wicked Arian leaven.

Again: “Only one offense is now vigorously punished an
accurate observance of our fathers’ traditions.
For this cause
the pious are driven from their countries and transported into deserts.”

Now St. Basil lived during the height of the Arian heresy, so he knew whereof he spoke.

These quotes are included in a post that examines how to respond to the Synod.  One recommendation is strongly made: assist at the TLM if at all possible, avoid the NO at all costs.  The assumption seems to be that as a result of the ongoing synodal process, eventually, things like Communion for divorced and remarried, Communion for active sodomites, etc., will come down the pike in most “large suburban parishes”.  And perhaps it will.  But I’d make a caveat to that: there are some Novus Ordo parishes that are solid, doctrinally.  They tend to be that rarest of commodity, the NO parish that offers the NO in Latin.  So if you live near Hanceville, AL or Greenville, TX or Madison, WI you might have an alternative in the NO world with some of these very rare orthodox NO parishes.

Beyond that, in normal circumstances, yes, I’d say the TLM is the best way to go.  However for those TLMs that have diocesan approval……..how long will they remain that way?  I mean, if this synodal process really develops into the planned rolling revolution, how long will FSSP or ICK or your good diocesan priest who offers the TLM be able to excoriate the revolutionary novelties and out and out heresies?  Even if they don’t challenge the post-conciliar ethos, how long will simple orthodoxy be tolerated?

So the question arose in the comments at the link regarding whether faithful Catholics should not start preparing reserve locations with altars, Communion wine, hosts, art, pews, etc, to allow for the Mass to continue if some dread things start to come down.  This was modeled on the reaction of faithful souls to the Arian times mentioned above, the English Catholics under the Tudor persecution, or the Catholics under Chinese communism today.

To which I say……..better safe that sorry.  I have some (probably not very good) priest holes in my house.  If you own a lot of land, is it worth digging a little underground chapel with a hidden entrance?  Is it silly to even speak of such now?  I, for one, don’t think so.  In the military, you don’t look at a potential adversary’s intentions, you look at their capabilities, and you plan against those.  The modernists have the capability to make the regular, diocesan-approved orthodox practice of the Faith all but impossible, if they so desire.  With 50 years experience of evidence of that behind us, can we be sure Summorum Pontificum and the TLM are really “safe” for long?

So aside from fervent prayer and penance, and not completely losing our minds as bad news rolls in…….what do you think constitutes prudent measures for faithful lay Catholics to take if we’re – as we’re – heading into the Synocalypse?


1. Michael - October 27, 2015

I never doubted the Dogma of Infallibility until this recent Synod. Surprisingly the Bishops upheld doctrine, albeit weakly, from those who are intent upon destroying the Church from within.

2. RC - October 27, 2015

Excuse the long rant 🙂

I haven’t read the book, but I have been seriously meaning to. It’s come highly recommend from a couple of people I know.

Bp. Athanasius Schneider said that we are in the 4th great crisis of the Church. Maybe someone can explain a little what that means, and exactly how many crisis in the Church are there suppose to be?

Is this the great apostasy that was foretold? Hard to say, while America and the West seem to be that way, Africa seems pretty solid. I just don’t know.

Aside from reading the book, I know that every crisis that comes up in the Church is different. Arianism was different from Nestorianism, which was different from Protestantism. No two heresies occur exactly the same way. I agree with you Tantum that the Arian crisis is the most similar to the one we are in now, with the differences that you mentioned, namely that heresy is pervasive from the lay folk all the way up to the top of the episcopate, which I’m not sure if that’s the way it was during the Arian era, I’m sure they probably didn’t even Change the Mass as was the case after VII.

If Modernism truly is the synthesis of all heresies, then maybe that’s why it has similarities of all of them combined. Truly frightening.

So what happens from here? Where do we go from here? I for one will no longer be attending the NO and will only be going to the TLM or one of the Eastern Catholic parishes. It’s my fervent hope that things will be different in 10-15 years, once the modernists pass on to their judgement. I am trying to remain optimistic to keep from letting myself get spiritually depressed. With the new crop of seminarians and those of the last 10 or so years, I am really hopeful of the way the Church is moving. To me, this current state is the last gasp of those who are trying to destroy the Church, and after they pass away, there will be no one left who was alive when VII happened, thanks be to God. From the people I’ve met around my age (mid 20’s) no one seems to care about VII, all they want is authentic Catholicism, bc if we’re actually taking the time to practice the faith, we don’t want watered down bs. The days of cultural Catholicism are far gone, and the only ones who are coming to Mass, at least the ppl I know, are the ones who take it seriously.

I also think that unless a truly holy pope comes along after Francis and gets the barque back on track, then the “Novus Ordo” church is going to have to collapse in on itself, and I think the SSPX will have a major part in this. I’m not saying a miracle will happen, or a chastisement will come, but God has allowed this to happen for whatever reason and I know something good will come out of all of this, it just has to.

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