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Protestant lack of proper Liturgy has de-sacralized the entire culture November 17, 2015

Posted by Tantumblogo in Basics, catachesis, Ecumenism, episcopate, error, foolishness, General Catholic, Latin Mass, Liturgy, scandals, secularism, Society, SOD, the struggle for the Church.

Some edifying thoughts from Dom Prosper Gueranger below (from Vol. 1 of the Liturgical Year).  I’m also reading Phoenix From the Ashes as many readers will also know, but also A Sense of the Sacred on the medieval liturgy.  Both completely detonate all the modernist myths, drawn from faulty, faked, or tendentious “scholarship,” regarding the supposedly “impure” Liturgy of Trent and the modern “reform” movement that gave us the Novus Ordo.  The only way the modernist revolution was able to happen was widespread ignorance within the Church of long-past liturgical forms and doctrinal evolution.  They basically made it up as they went along, often creating extremely “weak” evidence to support their claims. I especially enjoyed the destruction of the ridiculous notion of the priest “presiding” at Mass, like a “first among equals” from an 18th century Congregationalist revival meeting.

Anyway, Dom Gueranger, writing ~150 years ago, notes how protestant impoverishment of the notion of liturgy has played a substantial role in the de-sacralization of the former Christendom:

But in nothing is the excellency of the Liturgy so apparent, as in its being mild for children, and solid food for the strong; thus resembling the miraculous bread of the desert, and taking every kind of taste according to the different disposition of those who eat.  It is, indeed, a divine property, which has not unfrequently been noticed even by those who are not of the true fold, and has forced them to acknowledge that the Catholic Church alone knows the secret of prayer.  

Nay, might it not be said that the reason that the protestants have no ascetic writers, is that they have no real liturgical prayer? [Name one.  Bonhoeffer?  Was he really ascetical, or polemical?  There is no equivalent of Teresa of Avila, John of the Cross, Alphonsus Liguori, or many others among the sects.] It is true that a sufficient explanation of the absolute want of transcendent spirituality, which characterizes all that the reformation has produced, is to be found in its denying the Holy Sacrament of the Eucharist, which is the center of all religion: but this is virtually the same as saying that protestants have no liturgical prayer, inasmuch as the Liturgy is so essentially and intimately connected with the Eucharist.  So true is this, that wheresoever the dogma of the Real Presence has ceased to be believed, there also have the canonical Hours ceased, and could not but cease.

———End Quote———

Wow.  Now think on that a bit.  Wheresoever the dogma of the Real Presence has ceased to be believed, there also have the canonical hours ceased.  Is this not the situation in the Church today, where most frequently by the deliberate mal-intent of the teachers, belief in the Real Presence has almost totally collapsed, and along with it, the prayer of the Divine Breviary.  You might say, aren’t the Liturgy of the Hours the same?  The answer I would give is no, absolutely no, as the Divine Breviary developed over centuries with the input of thousands of Saints known and unknown, while the Liturgy of the Hours was constructed in barely 30 months as a banal, manufactured product of committee, with heavy influence from modernist heretics.  So, in a very real sense, Gueranger is exactly right, and he is right as regards the Church.  Praying the Breviary has collapsed almost entirely along with disbelief in the Real Presence.

Which…..duh.  The “reformers” themselves, from Bugnini on down, made plain their intent to make the new Liturgy – which encompasses much more than the Mass – as inoffensive to protestants as possible. Those were the days of great ecumenical dreams of the immediate implementation of the indifferentist one world church.  Bugnini and company did all they could to bring that about, and went far more than halfway in brutalizing the Liturgy and destroying the faith of millions in the process of protestantizing the Mass and all the other sacramental rites.

Maybe the lede was a bit off target. Perhaps it would be more accurate to say that official Catholic conniving in protestant rejection of the Liturgy has played the decisive role in the final desacralization of the culture?


1. Brian - - November 18, 2015

The Mass of Trent might have been refined, and altered slightly here and there, but it was essentially the same as it always was. And it’s source was antiquity. Where did it come from? No one really knows. Ancient of days.

The new mass? We can pin that one down with certainty. Specific date and location. The person who dreamed it up. I think he napkin upon which it was composed is in the NO archives still.

2. skeinster - November 18, 2015

Fr. Ripperger has a good homily about modesty (the outward ordering of action) in the TM and the NO, compare and contrast.

Bunch of good posts the last few days- thanks!

Tantumblogo - November 18, 2015

Oh you’re welcome. Always good to hear from you Skeinster!

3. David - November 18, 2015

Not to be mean, but quite a few non denominational churches (no, not all but quite a few) are basically social halls. There’s some that even encourage congregants and visitors to enjoy coffee and doughnuts during the sermon. How’s that for casual?

Many non denominational pastors are either former Baptists or Presbyterians who didn’t like something and started their own church. After a while, many congregants and visitors start to question, “where’s the authority?”

I have been to some Youth Masses and while some are done reverently, others are not. Dancing and hand motions, as well as gathering on the altar during the consecration, and encouraging “huggy kissy” at the sign of peace (yes, I have seen this at some Catholic churches in Texas, and many years ago I was part of a Life Teen Core Team) should have no place in a Catholic Mass. While I have seen some Youth Masses within the past 10-13 years done more reverently (thank those pastors for putting their foot down, and Youth Ministers knowing better amand having the guts to say something), other places need improvement.

Off the box now.

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