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Shock! Pope Francis unequivocally condemns tens of millions worldwide! November 20, 2015

Posted by Tantumblogo in abdication of duty, asshatery, different religion, disaster, episcopate, error, foolishness, General Catholic, horror, Papa, scandals, secularism, self-serving, sickness, Society, the struggle for the Church.

Too bad those tens of millions are involved in a perfectly legitimate enterprise that has long been found as perfectly justifiable by the Church.

That’s how it reads to me, anyway, when he indulged in this……..I have to call it a rant…….today at Casa Santa Marta.  So apparently fornicators, adulterers, and even sodomites are beyond judgment, but those involved in the defense of nations……..cursed:

 Pope Francis went on to recall the recent commemorations of the Second World War, the bombs dropped on Hiroshima and Nagasaki, his visit to Redipuglia last year on the anniversary of the Great War: “Useless slaughters,” he called them, repeating the words of Pope Benedict XV. “Everywhere there is war today, there is hatred,” he said. Then he asked, “What shall remain in the wake of this war, in the midst of which we are living now?”

“What shall remain? Ruins, thousands of children without education, so many innocent victims: and lots of money in the pockets of arms dealers. Jesus once said: ‘You can not serve two masters:  either God or riches.’ War is the right choice for him, who would serve wealth: ‘Let us build weapons, so that the economy will right itself somewhat, and let us go forward in pursuit of our interests. There is an ugly word the Lord spoke: ‘Cursed!’ Because He said: ‘Blessed are the peacemakers!.’ The men who work war, who make war, are cursed, they are criminals. A war can be justified – so to speak – with many, many reasons, but when all the world as it is today, at war – piecemeal though that war may be – a little here, a little there, and everywhere – there is no justification – and God weeps. Jesus weeps.” 

The Holy Father went on to say that, while the arms dealers go about their business, there are the poor peacemakers who, perforce to help another person, and another and another, spend themselves utterly, and even give their lives……

Pope Francis is applying a corollary that is non-scriptural and also not part of the Tradition.  Yes, our Blessed Lord certainly did say “Blessed are the peacemakers,” but he did not say “damned are the soldiers are weapons merchants.”  That’s a huge logical leap that is totally unsupported by the Church’s extremely well developed doctrine surrounding warfare and the taking of human life.  Pope Francis is emoting that false modern belief that to be Christian is to be pacifist.  This belief, like so many others, is based entirely on distortions of the words of great Saints and fathers, wrong interpretations of bits of Scripture, and a burning desire to witness not to the Faith but the worldly progressive zeitgeist.

It is also manifestly unjust.  It takes more than a bit of cheek for a man who, by many reports, cooperated with the military junta during Argentina’s Dirty wWar, to call those “who work war, who make war” cursed and criminals.  There are many perfectly morally justifiable reasons to serve in the armed forces and to be involved in the defense of one’s country. There are situations in which armed combat is not just permissible, but even a moral imperative. Our Lord never once condemned soldiers, he simply told them to do their duty and not abuse people sinfully.  Our Lord in fact reserved some of his highest praise for a Roman Centurion, who described his faith in terms of military discipline and left Our Lord amazed.

This pope once again shows himself as a man upon whom nuance is lost.  He also shows himself to be a disturbingly ideological creature, and a man given to fits of passion.  He has here condemned many dozens of very good souls I know who are involved either in the defense industry or the military.  It is simply an amazing departure from the kind of careful thought and thorough grounding in tradition we have come to expect from popes going back centuries, even the relatively recent (and more problematic) ones.  I wonder if the Holy Father gave any thought to the grave disconcert his statements would give to the millions of Catholics worldwide who work in some capacity related to the defense industry and/or armed forces?  This is a blanket condemnation without exception, compared to the extravagant “mercy” he extends to those involved in actual moral depravities, it’s really an unconscionable statement.

It’s also inconsistent as hell.  Remember when he excoriated the WWII Allies for not bombing the railroads leading to Dachau and Sachsenhausen?  But I thought all war-making and war-fighting was cursed?  Never ask a liberal to be consistent, it all depends on his feels at a given moment.

But not altogether unpredictable. Indeed, in so many ways, this pope seems to be gradually revealing his very novel, doctrinaire vision to the world as time unfolds.

Rorate notes the translation appears solid.  They also add this:

More than ever, Francis symbolizes a Church and a civilization that is tired and has lost its will to live: a “West” that in the face of wrath it could not comprehend, possessed with only a fraction of the conviction that its enemies has, takes refuge in meaningless slogans that inspire no one, help no one, and only encourage those who would like to destroy everything that is holy, everything that is of value.

Indeed.  Enjoy your Camp of the Saints.


1. tg - November 20, 2015

I heard that last night. He is so wrong and you are so right in everything you stated.

2. Baseballmom - November 21, 2015

PF Inconsistent???? I am shocked… Truly shocked. Like I posted before, I am beginning to believe the man is a loon….several bricks short of a full load….

3. Peter - November 21, 2015

At bottom, I don’t think he is very bright, bless his heart.

Baseballmom - November 21, 2015

Have to 😀 at that one Peter…. I maintain you can say anything about anyone (critical) so long as you add “bless his heart” to the end of your statement. 😀

4. Tim - November 21, 2015

ISIS, islamization of Europe, Church crumbling all around us, militant sodomite agenda, war everywhere, etc., etc., and the pope is “scared” of “neurotic” priests!


Baseballmom - November 21, 2015

Yep… My dear, faithful priest friend sent that one to me… It is very tough these days for faithful priests, they are criticized constantly by the man who is supposed to “have their back.”

5. Tim - November 21, 2015
6. Queen of Peace pray for us - November 22, 2015

Jesus told the Roman soldiers to be content with their pay. Guess he didn’t say quit the military. But then I don’t think he ever told the Romans to free their slaves either… So what conclusions can we draw ? We consider slavery to be immoral as well as unjustified military action, although we have the “just war doctrine” as well as the principle of self-defense. We rely on the Holy Spirit to help us listen to the Lord and to understand His teachings. Of course Jesus Himself was crucified with the unjust use of the military so I wonder what was going through His mind when those soldiers were simply obeying orders. And yes, I have a couple of relatives who have worked for Lockheed and friends/acquaintances as well who have worked in the defense industry. As well as numerous acquaintances/friends/relatives who have served, some however briefly, in the military. A second cousin plus a high school classmate graduated from West Point. Cousins have served in the Middle East. A greats-grandfather enlisted as a teen during the Civil War. I myself was born on a U.S. army base during the Cuban Missile crisis. We’re NOT even a “big military” family, just your average Americans.

Baseballmom - November 22, 2015

It is not whether one is in the military or works for the defense industry (my dad was General Counsel for Northrop decades ago and proud of it) – it is how one lives his FAITH. It is what one DOES – as St. Therese of Liseaux would say – in the little everyday things of life. This nonsense about working for defense or being in the military is just that, nonsense. I have seen many a peacemaker…. Even one who won the Nobel Peace Prize in 2008 or 2009, who are downright evil.

7. Baseballmom - November 22, 2015

Left a reply. Did not go through…

8. Observer - November 22, 2015

The Italian press recently reported that an eminent Japanese surgeon examined PF. The Vatican spokespersons strongly denied the allegations. I strongly suspect this was a trial balloon floated by those within the middle ranking Vatican management who are deeply perturbed by this pontificate. My money is on PF ‘retiring’ to Argentina after taking ‘medical advice’.

Baseballmom - November 22, 2015

Pray you are right…

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