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Armed group protesting outside DFW area mosques December 2, 2015

Posted by Tantumblogo in Basics, Dallas Diocese, disconcerting, General Catholic, Immigration, Interior Life, manhood, persecution, pr stunts, Society, The End.

Reader Camper sent me a link to the Breitbart article below that discusses a recently formed group that is staging armed open carry protests outside DFW area mosques.   Open carry by itself has long been extremely controversial, even among gun rights activists, but staging armed protests outside hostile religious institutions is really amping things up.  While I recognize the obvious provocative nature of these protests, and also prudential reasons to oppose them, given the way things seem to be coming apart in our nation, I am finding myself fairly sympathetic to this group and its aims.  What do you make of this?

The group that organized the armed protest at a mosque in Irving, Texas, in November looks to hold another protest. [Previous protest was on Nov. 21.  Wish I had known about it.  It would have been interesting to cover.]

This protest is scheduled for December 12 at a mosque in Richardson, Texas. [I know exactly where this is.  It’s very close to where I used to play hockey.  It’s a very large mosque.] The organization received criticism last week for reveling the names and addresses of Muslims and others who opposed the city of Irving’s support of a Texas legislature bill to ban Sharia law from Texas courts. [He also released the names of those who spoke in favor of the measure, and all names, for or against, were already on the City of Irving website, anyway.]

The Bureau of American-Islamic Relations (BAIR) announced the December 12 protest early Tuesday morning on its Facebook page. David Wright III founded the group and also posts about the Irving mosque on his Facebook page.

BAIR hosted a group of armed protesters who stood outside of the Irving mosque on November 21. Dozens of people openly carried rifles……. A few days after the meeting, Wright published the names and addresses of Muslims and supporters who spoke at a March 19 city council meeting in Irving.

In calling for the second protest in Richardson, BAIR posted, “We do not pick mosques at random.” The group claims the Richardson mosque has a “documented history” of taking in Syrian refugees and working with “terrorist front groups like CAIR (Council on American Islamic Relations).” [Members of this mosque were convicted of having directed millions of dollars in local donations to Hamas.  Some of these same leaders of the now defunct Holy Land Foundation were also involved in CAIR.]

“They are Sunni Muslims that have taken over the entire neighborhood and even renamed streets after the Islamic culture,” Wright posted on the event page. “Do I need to say anymore?” [Not sure about the streets]

……..The Dallas region that includes Irving, Richardson, and Garland has become the epicenter of conflict between Muslims and other Americans. One incident has followed another in the region beginning with Breitbart Texas’ revelation of an “Islamic Tribunal” in Irving.

All true.  Irving is 15% muslim.  There are neighborhoods that are entirely, deliberately muslim. Some of these were sort of planned communities.

I think what is happening in the DFW area is this: you have a large muslim population in an area that still retains – more than most other parts of the country – a strong traditionally American and Christian identity.  You have people seeing their country irrevocably changed and becoming increasingly frustrated at that.  Folks are getting to the point of being willing to take stronger stands, even ones that may seem shocking to the soft coastal elites, like standing outside a mosque carrying loaded assault rifles.  I think it shows the increasing desperation many Americans feel as they see their country slipping away.

I am wondering if similar protests against other elements in our culture – left wing agitation, for instance – might not be an effective way of tamping down on the seeming runaway activism that is taking over more and more institutions and dominating the national discourse to a disturbing degree.  What if 50 armed men stood outside a hall where a raging feminist was to rant, or across the street from universities that have caved into extreme leftist agitation?

I know many people will never be comfortable with these kinds of displays.  They see a gun and immediately think there’s a madman on the loose, or they simply think there is too much risk involved in a group of armed men being involved in emotionally charged protest-type situations.  I can understand both points of view.  But I am afraid so long as our governing class continues to ignore the concerns of tens of millions of Americans regarding unconstrained immigration and other threats to this nation as it has always been constituted, I think the tendency toward extreme reaction is only going to grow.  You can’t marginalize natives of this country in favor of immigrants of highly dubious character forever without engendering some kind of very strong backlash, and I fear this may only be the beginning stages of it.



1. Daniel Brooks - December 2, 2015

If I were there, I would be more concerned about agent provocateurs infiltrating the group and initiating violence for the purpose of effectively destroying the position of the group. Something like that would, of course, come from the Feds.

Baseballmom - December 2, 2015

I have seen that for decades at pro-life protests. In the early years (early 70’s) we all pretty much knew each other. We would hold prayer vigils at abortuaries and someone would show up – joining us – yelling at the patients “murderers, whores… Etc.” – of course the media would immediately focus on that individual (who was, of course, a planted pro-death individual).

Tantumblogo - December 2, 2015

I have seen the same occasionally. In my experience, they have been less agents provocateur, but more blue collar guys who stumble onto a pro-life effort. For instance, there is semi-regular construction in the alley behind one mill that faces onto a major highway where we protest. One time, some Hispanic construction guys asked what we were praying about, and during their lunch hour, joined in but in a not very helpful way. They were pretty harsh. One of them said to me when leaving: “Eh, they’re all going to hell anyways, who cares what they do?” Then there were some young black guys, a bit hip hop, who were with their very Christian grandma and happened upon a pro-life rally downtown. This was a rally against an ongoing Planned Barrenhood march. They got pretty salty with the PB people.

I’ve also seen people I know to be Catholic lose their cool and start saying unhelpful things. But deliberate provocateurs, I can’t say I’ve seen too many.

2. Brian E. Breslin - December 3, 2015

Nah, Tantum, I can’t feel sympathetic to their ways; open carry is legal, but their flaunting is taunting and over the line. Innocents not involved could very quickly become unintentionally and mortally involved. One knows it never takes much.

3. camper - December 3, 2015

If we don’t draw Mohammed and demonstrate outside of mosques, Mohammedans will change our culture. We will be intimidated into silence, and that is very evil.

4. DFW Catholic - December 4, 2015

Dec. 12th, might be a good day for it. Don’t I keep hearing about how at the Battle of Lepanto there was an image of Our Lady of Guadalupe in the commander’s cabin, or something to that effect ?

5. DFW Catholic - December 4, 2015

P.S. November 21st is the Feast of the Presentation of the Blessed Virgin Mary in the Temple. Both Nov. 21st and Dec. 12th fall on Saturday this year, a day traditionally devoted to Mary. Interesting. The Temple, oh yeah, where that gold Dome of the Rock is now…

6. DFW Catholic - December 7, 2015

P.P.S. — Just noticed — “A few days after the meeting, Wright published the names and addresses of Muslims and supporters who spoke at a March 19 city council meeting in Irving.” — March 19th, Feast of St. Joseph. I’m trying to recall but I think action under George W. began on March 19th, around three-ish (hour of Mercy) either local time here or over there ? Maybe someone can help me out on this one. Thanks.

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