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Priestly perversion still rampant in Texas – two dioceses react very differently December 3, 2015

Posted by Tantumblogo in abdication of duty, Basics, different religion, disaster, episcopate, General Catholic, horror, scandals, secularism, sexual depravity, sickness, Society, the struggle for the Church.
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Theodore Shoebat has a blockbuster post regarding grave immorality in the ranks of the priesthood.  After learning from two women that a priest in the Diocese of Tyler – a Father Bernard Boteju – had sexually assaulted while on pilgrimage to the World Meeting of Families attended by Pope Francis earlier this year, Bishop Strickland put Fr. Boteju on administrative leave within hours of the (very well substantiated) accusastions.  Because this matter appears pretty cut and dried (no matter how disgusting it is), with Bishop Strickland reinforcing his reputation for relative orthodoxy, I will leave it to you to go to Shoebat’s site and watch the very dramatic confrontation between the assaulted woman and Fr. Boteju, caught on video by Shoebat.

The other matter is potentially even more troubling.  It appears a Fr. Robert L. Kincl of the Diocese of Austin, who is also a canon law judge, holds that it is no sin (and certainly not a mortal one) for two men to manually service each other.  The response of the Diocese of Austin has been to defend the priest and to try to defuse, if not cover up, the allegations:

For years we have seen how the Vatican covers up for sexual predators and deviants, heretics and debased theologians. But we have never seen how the agents of the Vatican cover up for such evildoers in their private conversations. Well, Shoebat.com is now giving you this exclusive video showing you how the conniving is really done.

I confronted Deacon Ron Walker, an official of the Vatican, [??? – not sure what that means] asking why the Church has done nothing to punish Robert L. Kincl, a priest and canon law judge who was appointed by the Pope himself, who teaches that if two men masturbate each other they do not commit sin, and who himself defended confirmed child molester priest, Fr. Robert Hrdlicka. [This was in 1993, just as the first major boy rape scandals were breaking] This is after Shoebat.com filed a complaint against Kincl after we caught him teaching us depravity.

Deacon Ron Walker and the Bishop of Austin, Joe Vasquez, and Vicar General Daniel Garcia, did nothing to have Robert L. Kincl punished, even after they promised to take care of this evil. Shoebat.com realized that they were just patronizing us and so we made this video.

You’ve got to go to the link for the video.

Robert L. Kincl, who was appointed by the Pope, [again, I am not sure what this means] had befriended us as a fan of Shoebat.com acting as conservative, yet referred to homosexual fondling as permissible in the conversation. Having been shocked at his remarks, I told Kincl:

How can you, as a priest, be so liberal toward such a sick evil as two men fondling each other, or as two men having a “relationship” just as long as they are not going with other men. It is evil and it is reprobate.

I also told him:

It is not tolerable for you, as both a priest and a canon law judge, to be permissive to somebody having a homosexual relationship just as long as they are not being promiscuous with other men. It is deplorable, and in the words of St. Paul, “worthy of death” (Romans 1:32).

Kincl defended his position and responded with a rejection of the Old Testament and a twisting of St. Paul’s condemnation of homosexuality in Romans, stating

We do not follow the Hebrew Scriptures. We follow Jesus Christ who never mentioned gay relationships. When St. Paul mentioned such a relationship he was referring to the promiscuousness of the Romans using sodomy. [Complete utter crap.  So, we no longer observe the Ten Commandments?  Good to know! To bad Our Lord Himself said he came not to abolish the law, but to fulfill it.  It is amazing the lies these heretics will spin to try to justify their heresy.  I will remind again Aquinas’ dictum that public heresy is almost invariably the result of private sin, especially sins against the 6th and 9th Commandments.]

Shoebat.com decided to investigate Kincl and found that he has a dark past. In 1993, Kincl worked as a Commander in charge of clergy at the U.S. Navy, and while he was in the service he defended another chaplain confirmed to be guilty of child molestation, named Robert Hrdlicka.

The investigation revealed that Robert L. Kincl had even written the authorities, not to charge the pedophile who molested the young boys, but urged them to send him back to serve as a chaplain……..

……Kincl is now serving as a priest in Our Lady’s Maronite Catholic Church alongside Msgr. Don Sawyer. When I confronted Sawyer on Kincl, Sawyer vehemently defended Kincl. [I checked the website of Our Lady Maronite in Austin.  If Fr. Kincl has been on staff, or served as a priest there, they have deleted him off the website.]

Shoebat.com decided to contact the Diocese of Austin to file a complaint, and spoke with the Very Reverend Daniel E. Garcia as the Vicar General for the Diocese of Austin, and Chancellor and Secretariat Director for Administration, Deacon Ron Walker, who were under Bishop Joe S. Vásquez of the Diocese of Austin.

We asked them how could someone who supports homosexuality and defended a pedophile still be serving as a priest and not be excommunicated, to which Deacon Ron Walker, rolling his eyes, said that the Church’s main objective would be to reconcile him with God, and not excommunicate him. [Excommunication would seem a bit much in this case. But he could be removed from ministry and/or laicized]

It seems that the Diocese of Austin could care less if one of its priests supports homosexuality and defended a pedophile.

The very long post also outs a third priest who, at the very least, by his own words holds several pernicious errors, including denial of certain biblical miracles and rejection of the idea of demonic spirits.

I am generally in favor of Shoebat’s advice on how to deal with the error and perversion that has been tolerated in the Church for far too long:

If your pastor says anything in favor for Islam and homosexuality, confront him, and do so with aggression. If you attend a Christian school or university, and they have events in favor for homosexuality or Islam, go in there and confront the entire event, and do so with aggression…….

……It is my aspiration that this video will begin an international movement I call Operation Whip. We must confront the deviant and heretical ministers, and not only that, we must film them and post the videos on the internet. Its time to apply the whip (peer pressure) on them.

This will break their will and put us, the zealous, in the position of power and advantage over them, and make them submit to God and not to money and mammon.

The time for weakness and sycophancy is over, there must be a movement of zealots who will take up cameras, confront these wicked ministers, and make them tremble.

Dang right.  Reading a hostile blog post or article is one thing. Getting called out in person is totally different. It tends to have a dramatic effect on most people’s behavior.  That kind of humiliation – even if most defend the priest, even if they throw you out – can have lasting effects.  Might be worth a try sometime.  At the link you can see an episode where Theodore Shoebat did just such a calling out.

Regarding the Diocese of Austin’s response: typical.  In some respects, promotion of heresy is even more damaging to souls than physical abuse.  And yet we see how it is still so tolerated and covered up.  Now perhaps this priest has spun a story that Shoebat is deranged and that he is making this up.  That could be a dangerous play, Shoebat tends to record a whole lot.  I take him at his word.  I am hardly surprised that a priest of that generation has some perverse beliefs regarding men getting it on short of actual sodomy.  I doubt those are the only ones.

Better watch out, Dallas.  Shoebat might be coming your way……..

 

Comments

1. Eduardo Ordonez - December 3, 2015

Larry,

If there is an event, a novus ordo mass or I don’t care any event where a priest says something in favor or softening the evils of sodomy or mahometanism in the DFW area called me.

I agree is time to show teeth and it may be more fruitful than to pray in front of the whore house. We can not hold the enemy inside any longer.

E.O. americanrequete78@gmail.com +Viva Cristo REY+

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2. skeinster - December 3, 2015

I agree, too, with one caveat:
Make very sure you can precisely identify the error.
Forgive me, but I’ve been around the Trads for two decades+, and some of us try to operate way above our theological pay scale.

Tantumblogo - December 3, 2015

True! I do have a bit of a problem with his constant reference to excommunication. That’s not really what you would say would be a first recourse with regard to errors of these types. Might make some of us feel good, but I think it’s going too far.

Yes if you’re going to do something so bold better make sure you have your ducks very firmly in a row.

3. tg - December 3, 2015

Disappointing to hear about this priest being at Our Lady’s Marionite’s church. My sister and I went to Mass there about a couple of years ago. I liked Monsignor Sawyer. He blessed my St. Michael’s medal and others I had. I liked the blessing – he actually mentioned protection from the devil. His homily was also good. You know I remember going to this website about a year ago to check on their Mass schedule. I didn’t see a second priest pictured. The answer from the Diocese of Austin sounds typical – I’ve received that type of answer when I complained a few times in an email. My only satisfaction is they are not getting much of my money anymore since I found out that 8% from parish funds goes to them. The only to not give to the diocese is to specify on a check that it is for the building funds for your church.

Tantumblogo - December 3, 2015

It could be Shoebat has it wrong. I cannot say his claim has been verified, which I tried to make clear. Bloggers, especially excitable ones like me, sometimes make mistakes.

4. tg - December 3, 2015

Thanks for the link. Incredible.

5. Daniel Brooks - December 3, 2015

The web archive of Our Lady’s Marionite church’s staff page does not have any mention of the priest in question:

http://web.archive.org/web/20110201000000*/http://www.ourladysmaronite.org/staff

Doesn’t necessarily mean he wasn’t there, though.

6. DFW Catholic - December 4, 2015

It’s Austin. What can you expect. I went to school/worked there for five years in the late nineteen eighties. There seemed to be a not insignificant gay presence, including on campus (UT). They certainly weren’t shy about “recruiting” among the students — at least at the graduate school level. The city has grown, I can only imagine that the LGBT, or whatever out of dozens of possible genders, “community” has grown as well. These church guys probably don’t want to offend their friends. And yes, I had acquaintances from school/work who slipped into the gay scene, sadly. Talented and gifted people, including Catholics. I liked them and pray for them still even though I haven’t kept in touch. I haven’t yet abandoned them to the fires of perdition. I ask you all to pray for them as well. I thank God for my (heterosexual) Catholic friends who were “recruited” yet didn’t fall victim to the proselytizing.

7. c matt - December 4, 2015

I am a bit puzzled by “Vatican official” references as well. These are Diocese of Austin employees/representatives, not Vatican ones.

Sadly, I am not puzzled by the responses.

8. Margaret Costello - December 5, 2015

The sodomites like to throw out the “Jesus never commented on ‘gay’ relationships” like the rest of Scripture isn’t inspired by the Holy Spirit who just like Jesus is God…is ONE with Him. Our Lord never mentioned rape either, so is that ok now? I’ve read that masturbation causes brain damage…how is that good for souls? Good for Mr Shoebat. It’s about time that Godly men fought back against this evil and depravity in the Church. And yes, a priest who promotes such grave evils should be excommunicated after being defrocked and removed from his position. If he is promoting such evils, I don’t see him repenting any time soon. Although that should be the initial response before removing him from the Church. God bless~


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