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And things continue to spin out of control in FrancisChurch with quickening pace December 9, 2015

Posted by Tantumblogo in abdication of duty, Abortion, Basics, contraception, disaster, Ecumenism, episcopate, error, foolishness, General Catholic, Papa, Revolution, scandals, secularism, self-serving, sexual depravity, SOD, the struggle for the Church.

Burqas on the Vatican.  Cardinal Turkson calling for birth control.  Already planning for the next sin-nod, which will focus on married priests.  The program of the arch-heretic Cardinal Martini continues to be implemented at a quickening pace.

First, Cardinal Turkson says the earth has too many people.  Time to prevent a few billion more souls from ever existing and thus being denied knowing God and basking in His Presence for all eternity:

One of the Catholic Church’s most senior prelates has said that birth control could “offer a solution” to the impacts of climate change.

Cardinal Peter Turkson, the Pope’s leading adviser on climate issues, told the BBC that the Church had never been against natural family planning. [true, but its use must be reserved to grave personal situations, not supposed global crises]

The Catholic Church has recently adopted a more active role on the issue, encouraging churchgoers to join global climate marches before the start of COP21. The Church has also increased its engagement with the UN climate negotiation process itself, here in Le Bourget.
In a wide-ranging interview with the BBC, Cardinal Turkson suggested that birth control could help alleviate some of the impacts of climate change, particularly the lack of food in a warmer world.
 “This has been talked about, and the Holy Father on his trip back from the Philippines also invited people to some form of birth control, because the church has never been against birth control and people spacing out births and all of that. So yes, it can offer a solution,” he said.
“Having more mouths to feed is a challenge for us to be productive also, which is one of the key issues being treated over here, the cultivation and production of food, and its distribution. [Where is your faith?  The world does not suffer from a global food shortage. Local shortages occur, but in fewer and fewer places.  There are massive amounts of aid available.  This is a typically emotional argument with little substance behind it.]
“So yes it engages us in food security management, so we ensure that everybody is fed and all of that. The amount of population that is critical for the realisation of this is still something we need to discover, yet the Holy Father has also called for a certain amount of control of birth.” [Did he?  He said something about not breeding like rabbits.  So the meaning behind that statement was more birth control?  That’s what many suspected at the time, including me.  Thanks for the confirmation.  Now we know the smokescreens regarding Francis’ disastrous statements are just that.]

The issue is especially controversial in relation to climate change. The global population of 7 billion people is expected to grow to 9.7bn by the middle of the century according to the UN…….[They never finish that sentence. Yes, population growth will continue to about 10 billion at mid-century – and then will begin a rapid and terminal decline, the first in all history on a global scale.  By the end of this century human population will be back down to 6-7 billion, about present levels, with likely unprecedented economic calamities resulting from lack of young people sufficient to work enough to provide for the old.]

Why does Cardinal Turkson hate babies so much?  Why does he hate God so much, and desire to keep souls from ever knowing Him?

Next up, Sandro Magister on the next Synod.  The sin-nodal process is ideal for the progressive, not as difficult to pull off as a general council, but perfectly suited to the perpetual revolution they desire:

In mid-February Pope Francis will go to Chiapas, where hundreds of deacons with their wives are pushing to be ordained as priests. [so the wives want to be priestesseseseses?  Chiapas is the most reliably leftist region of Mexico]  And in the Amazon as well the turning point seems to be near. It was all written down in the agenda of Cardinal Martini

While waiting for Pope Francis to rule on communion for the divorced and remarried, which two synods discussed and split over, there is already a glimpse of the theme of the next synodal session: married priests.

The selection of the theme is up to the pope, as happened with the past synods and will take place with the next, independently of what will be proposed by the fourteen cardinals and bishops of the council that acts as a bridge between one assembly and the next.

And that married priests will be the next topic of synodal discussion can be gathered from various indications.

The first indication is the evident intention of Pope Francis to implement the agenda dictated in 1999 by Cardinal Carlo Maria Martini, in a memorable statement at the synod of that year.

The archbishop of Milan at the time, a Jesuit and the undisputed leader of the “liberal” wing of the hierarchy, said that he “had a dream”: that of a Church capable of getting into a permanent synodal state, with a “collegial and authoritative exchange among all the bishops on some key issues.” [See what happens when you don’t excommunicate heretics?  Their heretical ideas come back in a new generation to become the agenda of the day]

And here are the “key issues” that he listed:

“The shortage of ordained ministers, the role of woman in society and in the Church, the discipline of marriage, the Catholic vision of sexuality, penitential practice, relations with the sister Churches of Orthodoxy and more in general the need to revive ecumenical hopes, the relationship between democracy and values and between civil laws and the moral law.”

Magister then provides a number of other indicators that Francis will next look to married priests.

As to the burqafication of St. Peter’s, one I missed yesterday, via Edward Pentin:


So this display managed references to repressive islam and its subjugation of women but none to Jesus Christ, the Church, or His Mother.

I’ve prayed enough.  I’m signing.



1. David - December 9, 2015

I can see MSNBC and the Fishwrap reporting this in a manner that an action like this will be approved next week.

2. camper - December 9, 2015

Hello Tantum, here is a scoop… if u want it…: about the Texan from Houston who a hospital is trying to kill: http://abyssum.org/2015/12/08/houston-methodist-hospital-is-trying-to-kill-chriss-dunn-help-prevent-this/

Apparently he is out of money.

3. Tim - December 9, 2015

Married priests?…..already in the works here….Mr. Reese also has children:


Murray - December 9, 2015

Well, this is nothing new. Married Anglican and Lutheran priests (as Luke Reese formerly was) are sometimes given dispensation to be ordained as Catholic priests. Fr. Longenecker is a prominent example, but we have at least four such men in our diocese: three Ordinariate priests and one Anglican convert who was ordained several years ago. However, this option is only available to former clergy, not to married laymen of the Ordinariate.

Tantumblogo - December 9, 2015

Well yeah obviously that has been going on for some time with Anglican converts. It has a checkered record, to say the least. But what is being proposed, I would tend to imagine, is not a handful of exceptions due to conversion, but the wholesale remaking of the priesthood. I would not rule out a push for women priests within the next year or two, depending on how the marriage priest gambit goes.

Murray - December 9, 2015

Agreed. I was just pointing out to Tim that the ordination of married ex-protestant ministers is not a new Bergoglian initiative. In our case, two of the married Ordinariate priests are men in their 70s, which seems pretty low-risk all up. The non-Ordinariate ex-Anglican has five children, mostly now adults, and though I like the man, I can definitely see why people would have reservations about that situation.

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5. Tim - December 9, 2015

Even with Francis and team out of control there are still good Catholics and good Catholic events out there:


6. Baseballmom - December 9, 2015


7. Elizabeth - December 10, 2015

“I’m signing.” I’m with you there. I’m signing too. Good Lord.

8. Dana - December 10, 2015

Count me in. Hey Tantum – I think I know you from a few years ago on another private blog. Please get in touch. I wanted to thank you because you were instrumental in my conversion. 🙂

camper - December 10, 2015

It’s hard to get ahold of Tantum. Don’t be offended if he doesn’t even see your message. Welcome to the Church!

Tantumblogo - December 10, 2015

Dana – I don’t think it was me. I have never really been on private blogs. I wish it would have been me! It is such a great grace to be involved in someone’s conversion! However, you can contact me at larryr103@gmail.com.

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