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Is the barbaric behavior of muslim “immigrants” a sign of ignorance, or is it a sign of domination? January 29, 2016

Posted by Tantumblogo in abdication of duty, Basics, disaster, error, foolishness, General Catholic, Immigration, persecution, sadness, scandals, secularism, Society, suicide, the enemy.

A little of column A, and a little of column B, perhaps?

Bookworm notes that many of Europe’s governments from the local to the national level seem to be operating on the belief that the incredibly offensive, timorous behavior of many recent immigrants  stems from the ignorance and barbarism of the immigrants themselves.  Thus, there are mass campaigns underway to try to educate these immigrants in Western-ways, to, in effect, de-islamify and de-barbarize them.

But Bookworm posits another theory.  These muslims are not so backwards that they do not know that doing despicable things – like defecating in public swimming pools and gang raping women – is not acceptable behavior.  They are doing these things deliberately, and to a specific end:

Open any website dealing with the Muslim refugees in Europe, and you’re sure to find two different kinds of stories.  The first kind of story tells about Muslims engaged in all sorts of inappropriate behavior, such as assaulting women,urinating or defecating in swimming pools, raping little boys, or just plain old killing people. The second kind of story tells aboutthe ways in which Europe intends to address these decidedly anti-social behaviors:  They’re educating the refugees.  The sophisticated Europeans have concluded that the refugees are so stupid and simplistic that they need to be taught good manners.  Otherwise, how will they know not to rape, poop, or kill?

It strikes me that the really stupid, naive, unsophisticated people here are the Europeans who actually believe that this anti-social Muslim behavior comes about because Muslims are primitive people who are, for the first time, confronting an advanced society. To hold this position, Europeans must be willfully blind. Didn’t any of them notice the number of migrants who showed up with smart phones intact?…….

……….Here’s what I think is going on: The refugees are acting as they are, not because they see themselves as charity cases, but because they see themselves as conquerors. They know perfectly well that one doesn’t defecate in a pool in which people (especially children) are swimming. They’re doing it because they are performing the literal equivalent of the expression “I don’t give a —- about you.” They know you’re not supposed to rape women . . . that is, unless those women are the products of conquest, in which case raping them is one of Mohamed’s commandments.

I think Bookworm is onto something here.  These millions of migrants see themselves changing Europe forever.  I’m certain more than a few – probably those who engage in such disgusting behavior – see themselves as conquerors.  That doesn’t mean they are, yet, anyway.  But they could become so if policies are not reversed or if there is not some kind of reaction, much more than government signs and pamphlets begging immigrants not to behave in atrocious ways.

Is it too much to see in this developing crisis similarities to the fall of Rome?  Note that the barbarian invaders did not have to outnumber the native, Romanized population when they started pouring through the no longer defended frontier in the 5th century.  There had been barbarians in the Empire for years, for a number of reasons, but that rapidly accelerated in the 400s and led, within a lifetime, to the total collapse of the Western Empire.  By the time they reached 10% of the population, the Western Empire was finished.

There have been barbarians/immigrants in Europe for years in this modern context, but now, suddenly, something has happened and the floodgates have opened.  I don’t mean to say that Europe is finished at this point, but I am saying that each day this invasion in permitted to continue increases the likelihood of at least a nightmare internecine conflict as incompatible peoples sort themselves out, if not the actual implosion of Europe as bastion of Western civilization (such as remains, anyway).

At this point, I’m really not certain which is more likely to play out – a nativist awakening and struggle to eject (or at least contain) the invaders, or the gradual slipping away of all that has made Europe, Europe.  It’s really up to the Europeans.  Not that we are in substantially better shape.  Our country, too, has been largely remade through immigration over the past 50 years, but it has been immigration of a much different, and less problematic, type.  Having said that, there is no way Ronald Reagan could be elected governor of California today.   That California is gone.



1. c matt - January 29, 2016

Seriously, this keeps eating my comments

2. c matt - January 29, 2016

One last time:

Muslim men rape and defecate in pools, the native European men dress up in skirts. The Muslims are the alpha males and are marking their territory.

3. Observer - January 29, 2016

Having worked with muslims I can say without any shadow of doubt, their behavior is both an expression of their contempt for Christians and a display of their dominance.

4. Judy - January 29, 2016

You know, I was in an online debate with someone the last couple of days who thinks that ALL women who have had an abortion are these poor, misunderstood, guilt-wracked victims. He honestly refused to countenance the idea that (as he put it) there are women who have abortions like they are having teeth removed. He also thought that society is no worse now than it was in the 1930’s, but that is another can of worms.
I don’t understand people who can not acknowledge evil. I don’t get what it would take for them to look at someone and say “Yes, this person is not just an socioeconomically deprived victim who has, either under duress or due to bad judgement, done something with which I disagree. This person is evil. Their actions are pre-meditated and informed, and they have chosen evil.”
(And yes, I have known the other kind of woman who has an abortion. The kind that IS wracked with guilt, that does regret her actions. But i’ve come across too many women who are living in an amoral society and taking full advantage of it.)

Baseballmom - January 29, 2016

My years of sidewalk counseling confirm your point…. Abortions so they will look good in their bikinis, make a truck payment, buy a new couch, go on vacation etc. etc. etc…. Then there were the truly poor girls who clearly were being forced by parents, boyfriends, husbands and pimps…. They broke my heart.

5. Baseballmom - January 29, 2016

I lived in “that California” under Reagan… A very different place. Now they do not have a single republican elected at the state level…

6. Barbarian Catholic - January 30, 2016

This crises has given me a lot to think about. I won’t focus on the Jihadists, but the other things I’ve realized slowly:

– Although I have citizenship in a European country I should probably not return to live there because nativists think I’m an invader and Barbarian because I’m not white and they are blaming immigrants for all their ills and the “elimination of the white race” and all that. I’m not Muslim or Arabic either.

– I grew up learning that Western countries are more tolerant and less xenophobic than third world hellholes. But it took this economic crises to reveal what people really felt and thought about people from other countries and races. It’s easy to be magnanimous when things are going well, but it takes pressure to reveal whether one’s claimed principles are really present or not.

– People who are born of a certain race or in a certain nation have their entire lives fatalistically determined. Even if they immigrate or grow up in a different country they will never be accepted as belonging to the country they want to live in, no matter how much they want to integrate–especially because of bad immigrants who don’t want to integrate. You can always count on the media to report bad news rather than good news, so no immigrant can ever be considered in a positive light.

– Neither do many Westerners want people to immigrate to their countries nor do they care that outside their countries life is completely oppressive. It’s none of their concern–a government should look after it’s own citizens after all. Also the leaders of third world hellholes are aggressively nationalistic and see citizens who want to adopt Western customs and values as traitors. Thus if you’re not born white in a western country you can never realistically live with the same level of comfort and security, with working institutions and a culture that works, and be accepted by society.

– Somehow some Catholics are okay with all this and even chant white nationalist slogans–and if you think that there is something wrong here you must be a Jew, a liberal, or a Communist.

I’m not accusing you specifically of being a racist or white nationalist, but I’ve read far too much in traditional Catholic media to not notice this. Maybe it’s because I’m not white that it disturbs me so much.

7. Dymphna - January 31, 2016

After WWII the Red Army went on a rape spree. What’s happening is the same. The invaders are taking their booty and being crude and disgusting in ways they never would have at home because they can.

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