King St. Louis IX – my kind of interreligious dialogue! June 17, 2016Posted by Tantumblogo in awesomeness, Basics, catachesis, Ecumenism, General Catholic, Glory, Grace, history, manhood, Saints, Tradition, true leadership, Virtue.
I say that a bit tongue in cheek, of course. From the life of King St. Louis IX by Joinville, a bit of proper perspective on the Church’s historical approach to “interreligious dialogue.” I’m not saying this is what should be done today by you or me, but it certainly does provide a marked contrast to the kind of mealy-mouthed, “you’re right we’re so sorry we’re so afraid to offend” garbage we’ve had to endure for decades. I do like how the knight below rebukes the abbot for being more interested in serving men than God, in “getting along” versus having concern for souls.
I guess the question you might take away from the below is, has the Church gotten wiser, or just colder in the Faith from that 13th century mountain top?:
King Louis spoke……..of a great assembly of clergy and Jews which had taken place at the monastery of Cluny. There was a poor knight there at the time to whom the abbot had often given bread for the love of God. This knight asked the abbot if he could speak first, and his request was granted, though somewhat grudgingly. So he rose to his feet, and leaning on his crutch, asked to have the most important and the most learned rabbi among the Jews brought before him. As soon as the Jew had come, the knight asked him a question. “May I know, sir,” he said, “if you believe that the Virgin Mary, who bore our Lord in her body and cradled Him in her arms, was a virgin at the time of His birth, and is in truth the Mother of God?”
The Jew replied that he had no belief in any of those things. Thereupon the knight told the Jew that he had acted like a fool when – neither believing in the Virgin, nor loving her – he had set foot in that monastery that was her house. “And by heaven,” exclaimed the knight, “I’ll make you pay for it!” so he lifted his crutch and struck the Jew such a blow to the rear that he knocked him down. Then all the Jews took to flight, and carried their sorely wounded rabbit away with them. Thus the conference ended.
The abbot went up to the knight and told him he had acted most unwisely. The knight retorted that the abbot had been guilty of even greater folly in calling people together for such a conference, because there were many good Christians there who, before the discussion ended, would have gone away with doubts about their own religion through not fully understanding the Jews. “So I tell you,” said the king, “that no one, unless he is an expert theologian, should venture to argue with these people. But a layman, whenever he hears the Christian religion abused, should not attempt to defend its tenets, except with his sword, and that he should thrust into the scoundrel’s belly, and as far as it will enter.”
King St. Louis IX has to be one of the few Saints to be canonized who killed people as part of his public role for which he was eventually canonized! And I don’t mean ordered to be killed, or caused to die because of some policy decision he made – Joinville is clear, in the kind of hand to hand combat that predominated in the heroic Age of Faith, Louis IX participated directly. He had Saracen blood on his sword.
Of course, he wasn’t canonized for that, specifically, but his perfection in the role of Christian political leader is a major component in his canonization, and going on Crusade was a key point of his monarchy, so……