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Francis Not Very Welcome in Poland July 27, 2016

Posted by Tantumblogo in abdication of duty, Basics, different religion, Ecumenism, error, Francis, General Catholic, manhood, persecution, scandals, secularism, Society, Spiritual Warfare, the struggle for the Church, Tradition, Virtue.

Some countries are more sensible than others.  Some countries have been through the leftist wringer, watched their priests martyred and seen their churches sacked for decades.  They know where modernist-progressive rhetoric always leads – suffering, misery, and moral decadence.  They also know that inviting in adherents to an implacably hostile religion that has always refused conversion or even assimilation is a recipe for cultural suicide and endless internecine warfare.

Some peoples also know what it is to be denied the Faith, they know Truth from error, and know that the latter always leads to great suffering.  For these reasons and many more, Francis is not being very well received in Poland:

Pope Francis is set to arrive Wednesday in Poland, but the homeland of Saint Pope John Paul II – Francis’ most popular modern-day predecessor — is not rolling out the red carpet for the pontiff whose social agenda has alienated many in the conservative nation.

Francis will be in Krakow to celebrate World Youth Day, the event initiated more than 30 years ago by Pope John Paul II in which hundreds of thousands of young people from all over the world gather. But unlike the favorite son the Eastern European nation sent to the Vatican, Francis has received a chilly reception. [World Youth Day has frequently devolved into scandal and indifference, and should be done away with.  If you were wondering……]

“The Pope, an inconvenient guest,” was the headline on an article earlier this month in Gazeta Wyborcza, Poland’s largest circulation newspaper…..

….Polish bishops circulated a letter publicizing the event that was read in churches throughout the nation on July 3. The letter praised the late Pope John Paul II three times, yet made no mention of Pope Francis. [Well, if you can’t find anything nice to say, let your silence speak]

“Here in Poland – a papal country – we have a very unusual situation,” journalist Katarzyna Wisniewska wrote. “Nobody here is waiting for the pope.”

Francis’ liberal social positions clash with the Polish church’s conservative orientation and alignment with the far-right Law and Justice Party government. [Not “far right” – visibly Catholic, probably the most Catholic government in Europe, which should be praised, not belittled] Church support for Law and Justice was an important factor in the party’s landslide victory in the 2015 national elections. [I’d say good on the Church, even though the government is far from perfect]

The nationalist party is committed to defending the Catholic identity of a homogeneous Poland. [good again]

“Francis is seen as someone strange, alien, and Poles don’t relate to an Argentinian Pope,” journalist Adam Szostklewicz, who writes about the Church and international affairs for the weekly news magazine Polityka, told FoxNews.com…….

……In his first speech in the country, to an audience including President Andrzej Duda at Krakow’s Wawel Castle, the pope is expected to renew his support for refugees. Three days later, a young Syrian will speak during a prayer service presided over by the pope. [So Francis will go to a Catholic country and speak a more contradictory message than he did in Cuba, or Bolivia?  He’s down with a sort of false “speaking truth to power” when it comes to a Catholic country, then?]

Poles reject that papal call. Seventy percent of Poles don’t want any Muslim refugees, according to a recent survey by CBOS, a leading pollster…….

…..According to Father Pawel Guzinski, an outspoken Dominican priest, the Polish Church gravitates more to popes like John Paul II and Benedict XVI, for whom obedience to Catholic doctrine is paramount.

“For Pope Francis, his commitment to the poor and disadvantaged is most important, while doctrine remains in the background,” Guzinski said. [that’s a fairly mild way of putting it]

The Polish Church is also anxious about the tide of Western secularism. [And quite rightly so]

Bishop Piotr Libera, in a speech in Radom, equated secularism with multiculturalism. [How about with evil?]

“It is a leftist policy in which all religions and cultures are equally important,” he said. “But not the one they grew up in. Christian, of Christ.”

Some other quotes, from a different, more liberal source (a good amount of nastiness towards Polish Catholics in this article, which I’ll skip):

……Arch-conservative [meaning faithful, accepting of the Doctrine of the Faith] Catholic journalists have gone so far as to question the legitimacy of his election, even accusing Francis of wanting to destroy the Church. Senior Polish clerics have stopped short of condemning such views. [Well well………]

One rightwing conspiracy website accuses Francis of “selling out to environmentalists, Freemasons, Islamists, pseudo-refugee invaders”.

“What nerve to require each parish to host an Arab refugee, while also saying that Catholics should not procreate like rabbits.”

………Francis’s progressive views on contraception — which he dubbed “not an absolute evil” — and allowing divorcees to receive communion have also long sparked mixed feelings among conservative faithful here. [Francis did say contraception is not an absolute evil, committing a grave error because contraception use has always been defined, since the earliest days of the Church, as intrinsically evil. But praying out loud in a Catholic church sanctuary hosting a muslim invader refugee, now that’s an intrinsic evil.  Not]

It’s gratifying to know some folks, even most of a nation, apparently, have caught on.  Francis…….he’s not our kind of guy.


1. leftfooter - July 27, 2016

Nor my kind of guy. I am sadly not a Pole, but have lived for over 10 years in Poland. I speak only for myself. I would not shake his hand, kiss his ring while he was wearing it, allow him into my house, or near my grandchildren.

I consider him the worst thing that has happened to the Church in a very long time.

2. Brian Springer - July 27, 2016

I was interested in what you had to say about Francis doubling down on the whole “let’s welcome our new Muslim overlords” nonsense, especially in light of recent events. Seriously, that man has no class and I wonder how he can keep a straight face preaching something that is not only not true, but a danger to his flock, as well as everyone in general. Isn’t it obvious that this multicultural project with Muslims is a total farce. More and more people get that, so why keep shoving it down their throats? Why not take up the smell of your sheep and start adjusting your distorted views on reality to match theirs?

3. Barbara Hvilivitzky - July 27, 2016

This is just more pressure on the Poles to conform themselves to the EU mandate: give up your Faith, embrace all we embrace, and welcome to the New World – your backward, sausage-eaters.

May God take pity on Pope Francis. May He give him the same grace of conversion that he has given to so many others who have gone astray.

4. Baseballmom - July 27, 2016

My DIL, (33 and very orthodox) has said WYD needs to go away… She’s had friends attend who call it an orgy with a Catholic veneer… And that was when JP2 and Benedict were in charge… Cannot imagine what it is now. Keep wondering what kind of “mess” PF will create this year… Going to be a doozy I am certain.

5. Fr. Frank - July 28, 2016

Pope Francis : RCC :: Donald Trump : USA

Tantumblogo - July 28, 2016

Heh. Interesting.

6. Observer - July 28, 2016

It should now be obvious ‘Mr. Bergoglio’ is a willing and eager apparatchik of the UN program.

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