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Bad News on All Fronts With Francis February 16, 2017

Posted by Tantumblogo in abdication of duty, asshatery, Basics, different religion, disaster, error, Francis, General Catholic, horror, Revolution, scandals, secularism, self-serving, Society, the struggle for the Church.

Maybe not ALL fronts, but on many, anyway.  Because I haven’t had time to post much thanks to 3 days of truly interminable meetings (which are, Deo Gratias, now done), I’ll just post a roundup of many of the troubling items that have broken just in the past few days.  Much of this may be old news, but sometimes the gravity of things really sinks in when items are compressed together.

First up, last week it was revealed that Francis – in a truly revealing move, as if we needed more revelation of his extreme ideological predilections – had decided to attack “restorationist” religious orders with numerous vocations at a meeting of heads of religious orders last fall, because being a Jesuit, he knows that the only purpose of a religious order is to grow old, modernist, corrupt, and decadent, prior to ending with a pathetic whimper:

Pope Francis has stated that the rise of new religious institutes that attract numerous religious vocations “worries” him because they often promote “rigidity.” Francis denounced new traditional religious orders as “Pelagians,” who want a return to asceticism and penance.

In an obvious reference to the Legionaries of Christ, he called young people in traditional orders “soldiers who seem ready to do anything for the defense of faith and morality, and then some scandal emerges involving the founder [male or female].”

“So, do not put hope in the sudden, mass blooming of these Institutes,” he added.

“When they tell me that there is a congregation that draws so many vocations, I must confess that I worry,” he said during the closed-door meeting with 140 Superiors General of male religious orders and congregations that took place November 25. The transcript of the unscheduled Q&A was published this week by the leading Italian newspaper Corriere della Sera.

Asked about how to fire the hearts of young people for the cause of the Gospel, the pope turned his focus to the training of “seminarians and future priests.”

Francis said that in priests’ training the “logic of black and white” that “can lead to abstract casuistry” must be avoided. [Anytime you see a Church official use the term “casuistry” in a pejorative sense, run, screaming, in the other direction.  This is code speak for hatred of doctrinal clarity.]

“Discernment, meanwhile, means moving forward through the gray of life according to the will of God. And the will of God is to be sought according to the true doctrine of the Gospel and not in the rigidity of an abstract doctrine,” he said.

Asked what should be done about the plummeting number of vocations to the priesthood, the pope said that while the decline “worries me” he is also worried about the rise of new traditional religious orders.

“Some are, I might say, ‘restorationist’: they seem to offer security but instead give only rigidity,” he said. [Yes, we know how you feel about us.  You’ve made that abundantly clear.]

I would just add that, coupling this attitude with Francis’ move last fall to reserve approval for most new religious institutes to the holy see, instead of local ordinaries as has been the case for hundreds of years, this kind of mentality has chilling prospects for the formation of new traditional religious orders, and the future of those which are already extant.

Next, in a move that just made be burst out in laughter because it is so predictable, Francis has banished good Cardinal Burke to Guam, at least for the time being (although there are unconfirmed reports that Cardinal Burke had recently started clearing his schedule of planned events going out months).  That’s about as far as one can possibly get, geographically, from Rome.  I would imagine Francis will soon name Burke apostolic nuncio to Antarctica next:

The Vatican has sent conservative Cardinal Raymond Burke to the Pacific island of Guam to investigate an important case of sexual abuse, dispatching a seasoned jurist who has clashed repeatedly with Pope Francis for a sensitive mission halfway around the world.

The Vatican’s Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith back in October named Burke the presiding judge in its trial of Guam Archbishop Anthony Apuron, who is facing multiple allegations of sex abuse of altar boys in the 1970s, the Vatican press office said Wednesday. Apuron has denied the charges and has not been criminally charged.

Possibly related – Bishop Michael Byrnes, formerly Auxiliary of Detroit, was recently appointed co-adjutor archbishop of Guam in a move some saw as a further de-conservatizing of the US episcopate.  Tiny Guam is apparently to get some all-star episcopal representation due to its fortuitous geographical location?  You can read more analysis and speculation on this development here at One Peter Five.

Finally, and most troubling, the generally quite reliable Hilary White is reporting that some major shoe in the progressive-modernist Franciscan agenda is to drop this fall.  She thinks Vatican III will be called, but I doubt it.  I think there will be a proclamation regarding deaconessesseses, paving the way for fake priestesses later.   Add in perhaps a repeal of the discipline on married priests.  White also reported close contacts between Francis and the now never to happen Hillary Clinton administration.  The source for this is an unnamed Roman priest, so take it for what you will:

The Catholic TwittFace world is popping and sparking and buzzing and sizzling with this, like an Italian electrical socket.

This anonymous blog in Italian, clearly based in Rome, is the latest coolest thing among the Rome Vatican-watchers. There. Y’all’re running with the cool kids now!

So far we’ve only had it in crappy Google-translate English. But a friend has helpfully helped to clarify the details with a good translation from the Italian original.

Let me tell you a story. Last Thursday, in a coffee bar in front of the Porta S. Anna (facing Vatican City) a Monsignor (very close to Bergoglio) in his 50s and a layman go for a coffee. The discussion turns to the “dubia”.

The Monsignor, with an “enough” says: “The Pope will never answer the “dubia” of the 4 Cardinals. He will never lower himself to their level. Francis has much bigger plans, which do not stop with Italy. The only hitch during this period has been the election of Trump.

To which the layman replied: “And what has Trump got to do with Amoris Laetitia?”

“He has everything to do with it” replied the Monsignor, continuing: “the aim was to back Clinton, because she has a special relationship with Francis. They’re in frequent contact. And the goal to be reached was that the Catholic Church was to rehabilitate certain “non negotiable” principles in a soft manner, in such a way that the Vatican too would have had strong global political support, which is needed at this time, above all for the big manoeuvres which are coming.” 

About this we must agree with the great Assange… read here

The layman even more amazed says: “And which manoeuvres are coming?”

The Monsignor sips the last drops of coffee and says: “But have you still not understood that the vision which you have of the Church has been left behind?

“…But do you not understand that today the Pope is a world leader? That had Ratzinger stayed we’d all be finished. Do you know what the next manoeuvre will be? Precisely the diaconate for women. Because it’s the only way to show our concrete closeness to the Lutherans and Anglicans. And you will see that by November we will have the diaconate for women.Not of course identical with what you think. But it will come very close.”


If this is remotely accurate – and there is much external evidence to confirm that something along this line is in the works – we see the plan unfolding.  Francis will re-make the Church into an inoffensive, completely neutered global NGO ak in to the disintegrating Anglican “Communion” with the backing of worldwide political power to squash whatever opposition emerges in the Church (opposition which, to date, has been depressingly weak and ineffective).  All the “offensive” parts of the Gospel will be removed – or rendered mute and pointless –  in the interest of worldly political power and the approval of men.  If this is true, mass opposition must be the result.  But judging by the reaction to the atrocities that have gone before, I have little hope it will materialize.

More from the Italian priest, “Fra Christoforo:”

Now let us take a moment to reflect. Saint Peter’s Square is by this point almost always empty (and ‘Tv 2000’ only films that small group of people crowded together in front of the window.)[This is true. EVERYONE I know who has gone to Rome has managed to get quite close to Francis.  This would not be possible were the square thronged with tens of thousands of people.] What do the faithful matter to Bergoglio? From the contents of this conversation it can be inferred that the Argentinean has plans much broader than evangelisation. Often and willingly he has said that evangelisation is a form of proselytism, which is not OK. Just recently he even said that he is worried that in certain congregations there are many vocations.

There you are. He seeks only himself. He seeks to keep the spotlights on himself, and not to tread on anyone’s toes, because he is the LEADER.

And Jesus Christ does not concern him. How unlike St Paul. The Apostle to the gentiles said “we are become as the refuse of the world” (1 Cor 4,9-13) precisely because in first place he put evangelisation. Bergoglio instead, to the prejudice of Christ and of the salvation of souls, wants the first place for himself.

Dear readers, this is the reality. And in a week there will be more appalling news. But I won’t anticipate the press releases.

Some final thoughts from Miss White, including her prognostication about what this “appalling news” will be:

And the question about the “bomb” Perp Francers is preparing for the “whole world” is running around Rome journalist circles. Everyone seems to be talking about “the big one,” though no one knows exactly what it’s supposed to be.

Personally, my money’s on an Ecumenical Council. Vatican III that his buddy Kasper has wanted all these years. But if this is true, there is an even bigger question. Councils aren’t just a happy little get-together. They always have a stated goal. They are called for particular ends.

It might be a good idea to ask ourselves, what could Jorge Mario Bergoglio want badly enough to call an Ecumenical Council to get?

I think the synodal process proved to this point that a), he doesn’t need a council/synod to achieve his goals, and b), in spite of his best efforts to pack the court, so to speak, councils and synods work as a gathering place for opponents as much as they do for supporters. At a general council, while the opponents might be in the distinct minority, there would still be enough to raise a serious stink and possibly block some of the more extreme proposals. Thus, this bomb, if it materializes, will not involve a council or another synod, but simply an “executive order” a la Obama.  Progressives despise democracy, anyway (or even the false impression of democracy), and would rather rule as an autocrat.

But I could be wrong.  We’ll see, but I suspect the bombs being dropped will simply come down as orders from on high from the Argentinian publicly occupying the Chair of Peter.


1. Baseballmomof8 - February 16, 2017

“Tiny Guam is apparently to get some all-star episcopal representation due to its fortuitous geographical location?”

I got a great laugh from that line! 😂😂
And you may have meant “moot”… not “mute”… although that works, somewhat in the following:
“All the “offensive” parts of the Gospel will be removed – or rendered mute and pointless – in the interest of worldly political power and the approval of men.”

2017 will prove to be a most interesting year IMHO…

Tantumblogo - February 16, 2017

I meant mute. As in, having no voice, never mentioned, forgotten. But thanks!

Baseballmomof8 - February 17, 2017

You betcha…. btw… the hubs just added to his, um, collection. Now is that a nice Valentine gift or what?????

2. Gc5341 - February 16, 2017

All this unless the hand of God intervenes. Pope Francis is 80 and does not have a family history of health. His Dad died young at 51 and his Mom at 70. He is the oldest child but all of his younger siblings except one have died. I put the odds at 50/50 that Benedict outlives Francis.

Then we will see who emerges from the next papal conclave.

Tim - February 17, 2017

Let us pray for a Pope Williamson!

pearl87 - February 20, 2017

Indeed! I know I will.

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4. TLM - February 17, 2017

All he and other ‘leaders’ care about is the POWER. He is absolutely tied in with the globalists such as George Soros, Hillary Clinton and the cabal, in a bid for a room at the top in the One World Order. His ‘plan’ is to bring ALL together ‘As Christ prayed for’ that we ‘All be One’. He is moving fast because I think he may believe he is running out of time. Women Priests are coming, a neutered Mass so that ‘all others’ can participate comfortably, gay unions accepted and APPRECIATED as God’s special gift to the few ‘privileged’ and ‘special people’, and marxist principles so that we can ‘eliminate poverty’ and make everyone equal and ‘brothers’. Oh! And don’t forget ‘global warming’! He has now declared it a SIN to use too much electricity or forget to recycle! Population control is on his mind as well because it’s irresponsible to ‘produce like rabbits’ you know!!! Everything ‘CATHOLIC’ all the time!! That’s our Jorge!!!

5. Shafterian - February 17, 2017

Sigh. Bergoglio…Wojytla on steroids…flushes Catholicism down the tubes once more. “Dog Bites Man”. Regard me as the lab rat with one too many shocks. Seen any good movies lately?

6. Brian Springer - February 17, 2017

Reading this new blogpost and TLM’s comment has more or less worsened the blues I’ve been experiencing these past few weeks. It’s not your guys fault mind you, strictly my own, but now I’m really beginning to realize that not only is this mess of a papacy and ecumenical council (Vatican II) not going away (and that it isn’t going to be fixed by any man) but that God is not going to spare us the experience of having going through more of this madness. And being willing to accept this dreadful possibility it what is most difficult for me.

I want to trust the few good priest left, but after noticing that their responses have been at best timid, no matter how bad Francis gets or how fast and outrageously he works to get his evil business done, I’m being to doubt we’ll ever see any real opposition to his will. Where do they draw the line? I don’t even really know where I draw it anymore really. Francis is already a lot worse than I first believed three years ago.

7. The Lord's Blog - February 17, 2017

Will be waiting to see what more will come from Rome.

8. The Lord's Blog - February 17, 2017

Reblogged this on Jean'sBistro2010's Blog and commented:

9. tg - February 17, 2017

This is so depressing. If it weren’t for the fact that I believe in the teachings of the Catholic Church, I would leave. I can’t take Pope Francis anymore. What are you all going to do if he gave us women deacons and women priests? I for one would not go to Mass anymore. There is no SSPX in Central Texas so I couldn’t go to a real Catholic Mass. Those of you that have traditional parishes run by the FSSP, what do you think those priests would do? I’d like to hear your answer Tantum or any of your readers.

pearl87 - February 20, 2017

FSSP is thoroughly neutered as a force for tradition, but if you can get a good Catholic Mass there, then go for it. As for the SSPX, they are traveling the same road to oblivion. There is only the remnant Church left, celebrating Mass in secret now. A handful of priests who travel the world and provide the Sacraments as best they can. Isn’t this exactly what the Apocalypse should have prepared us for?

10. c matt - February 17, 2017

Calling a V III would require inviting all the squishops, even those who disagree with him, so I don’t really see it happening. I could see a stacked synod, or as you say, simply an edict from on high. I doubt we would see any deaconessess applying from my local parish, but one could be assigned from outside. Would have to figure out which Masses she would be serving and avoid those. Does the TLM utilize deacons? I suppose if deaconesses came to be, even the FSSP TLM would not be spared them? If they are allowed, why would the FSSP TLM be exempted?

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13. around here - February 20, 2017

“I would imagine Francis will soon name Burke apostolic nuncio to Antarctica next:…” On behalf of Antarctica, I must say… my father recently returned from a cruise there. He said it was really more of an adventure. He enjoyed it immensely. Said it may be the best vacation he’s had yet.

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