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Amazing Protestant Family Giving Witness Amidst Incredible Danger in Iraq June 20, 2017

Posted by Tantumblogo in awesomeness, Basics, Christendom, Ecumenism, family, General Catholic, sanctity, Society, Virtue.
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There is a man named Dave Eubank, former Green Beret, devout protestant, husband, father, and – it must be said – extremely dedicated evangelist, who has developed a mission (in a quasi-military sense) over the past several years of serving others in need amidst some of the most violent conflicts in the world. After starting in the jungles of Burma, where a low-level civil war has been ongoing for decades, he transferred his efforts – still called the Free Burma Rangers – to Iraq.

I saw an article about this man, and his family, including three minor children, providing supplies and medical care to souls suffering during the endless fighting in Iraq (fighting that was, tragically, largely caused by the failed policy efforts of these United States).  There is certainly much to be said about the prudence of exposing children to such extremely dangerous situations.  Yes I am sure they are careful, but they are in an active warzone and irreplaceable loss mixed with unspeakable tragedy is just a wrong footstep away.

And these folks are not somewhere miles behind the lines.  All of them are routinely exposed to great danger, especially the husband and father, Mr. Eubank:

Note, the video title has it wrong, none of the men in the video are currently serving US armed forces.  They are all members of Eubank’s Free Burma Rangers organization.  They apparently get into the fighting as part of their efforts, at least as far as giving covering fire for rescue efforts.  Also, there were two children Eubanks attempted to rescue.  He recovered the 5-6 year old girl, but there was also a toddler boy being fired at by ISIS in Mosul he was unable to recover.

That is incredible dedication.  I don’t know about the prudence of a father a family depends on doing that as a mission of charity, but it certainly speaks to this man’s enormous courage and conviction.

And this wasn’t a one time deal.  In the video below, Mr. Eubank gets shot through the arm, and his (presumably) Kurdish escort gets hit far worse:

The video below gives a better idea for what the wife and kids are exposed to:

It’s funny to see the reporter just inundated with body armor – like she’s in EOD or something! – and Eubank just walks around with a shirt and pants.  But I digress…….

Now, this man is certainly brave, has enormous conviction, and appears to be doing quite a bit of good.  But is it right for him to expose his children to such extremes of danger by choice?  There are certainly many ways of giving witness and serving others that don’t entail such grave risk of injury or loss of life.  And one could easily say that the children – even if they seem on board with dad’s very adventurous work – don’t really have a choice in the matter.  Kids might find it very hard to express their real feelings about being drug into this very violent and messy war.

Still, I find much to admire in this man and his family.  Now he’s a former Green Beret and probably well-versed in the situations in which he places himself and his family, but there it takes enormous guts and faith to do what he’s doing.  He states he has faith that God will protect him and his family in their work, and if it is their time it is their time.  One may argue with the morality and prudence of doing that, but I think he’s honest in being motivated by faith.  I do wonder if such extremes of effort, such great demonstrations of charity, make any impact on the hardened muslim mind?  Eubank did make converts in Burma, several of the medics serving with him in Iraq are Burmese.

Unfortunately he is protestant and thus holds a number of errors.  But would I have the faith and courage – even without wife and kids – to do what he’s done and plans to continue doing?  Probably not.  But does he even have a valid call from God to do this? Being protestant, that’s especially problematic (as St. Ignatius makes clear – more on that later, I pray).

That he is doing good is I think undeniable.  I am really amazed by this man’s willingness to help others.  See this rescue of a girl trapped under rubble for three days in ISIS-held territory:

So what do you think?  Is this zeal gone astray, or is this putting John xv:13 into concrete action in about the most literal way possible?  If he were Catholic would you think any differently of his work?

 

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1. Daze Inde - June 20, 2017

Bless this charitable Christian. Reminds me of the parable of the Good Samaritan, and the question our Lord posed at the end of His parable.

Camper - June 21, 2017

Please don’t call him a Christian. Protestants are heretics, not Christians.

Tim - June 21, 2017

BULLS. EYE.

Camper - June 22, 2017

IMPORTANT SCOOP
On an unrelated note, here is a Russian woman who claims that the global warming scare was invented by the Soviets to destroy the western industrial base. Gorbachev invited Al Gore to just such a conference in Moscow in 1990.

http://www.aim.org/aim-column/why-the-russians-conceived-the-global-warming-scam/?utm_source=AIM+-+Daily+Email&utm_campaign=Daily%20Email%20Jun-20-2017&utm_medium=email

This was on canon212.com today.

Tantumblogo - June 22, 2017

You can please all of the people none of the time. Leading with “Heretic Family Gives Amazing Witness Facing Incredible Danger in Iraq” would sound pretty callous to all but the most convicted trads, and even among some dedicated trads that would be taken poorly. Plus it wouldn’ t make sense.

We don’t have to beat our favorite hobby horses in every. single. post, do we? Frustration with constant carping over matters that are important but not always germane exhausts me and is a factor in backing away from blogging.

Tim - June 22, 2017

Understandable, but we are Soldiers of Christ and comment that are at odds with dogma should be countered. I think this all started with you being criticized about this man holding protestant errors…..why anyone on a Catholic blog would have a problem with your comment is beyond my ability to understand.

tg - June 24, 2017

I agree. I think those are the trads that turn other Catholics off.

Tim - June 24, 2017

Dear tg,
If you happen to be referring to myself and Camper, then you are mistaken. Defending Catholic teaching and Dogma is not “beating a favorite hobby horse”. It is our duty as Soldiers of Christ. As for “turning off” other Catholics, that’s just too bad for them. If they are “turned off by truth and fraternal correction then are they really Catholic? the term “Trad” today simply means a Catholic who chooses to be what Catholics always were prior to the 1960’s.

What should turn a Catholic “off”?…..a “trad” pointing out Truth or a Pope who spews heresy on almost a weekly basis and the throngs of mindless robots who question nothing? If Truth “turns them off”, they have a problem that only God can fix. I will not be derelict in my Catholic duty simply to avoid “offending” Catholic snowflakes.

God bless you.

Camper - June 25, 2017

Sorry, Tantum. I really appreciate the blog. Didn’t mean to be insensitive. Thanks very much for everything. Hope your family does better. God bless.

Joseph D'Hippolito - June 22, 2017

So, Camper, how would you have looked at the Samaritan who helped a beaten robbery victim in light of the fact that a priest and a Levite refused to help him because they would have become ritually contaminated, according to their interpretation of the Mosaic Law?

Quite a few Protestants will be in the Kingdom of God before Francis, his careerist hierarchs — and, perhaps, even you.

Tim - June 22, 2017

“Quite a few Protestants will be in the Kingdom of God before Francis, his careerist hierarchs”……….Not unless they convert prior to death, and that includes the latter as well.

“and, perhaps, even you.”……ahhhh, the Charity abounds!!

Joseph D'Hippolito - June 24, 2017

“……ahhhh, the Charity abounds!!”

Damn straight, Skippy!

Tim - June 25, 2017

Skippy……who’s that your dog?

Tim - June 24, 2017
Jm - June 25, 2017

Agree.

2. Joseph D'Hippolito - June 20, 2017

“Unfortunately he is protestant and thus holds a number of errors.”

Oh, please! So what if he’s Protestant? He’s a greater follower of Jesus than the pious frauds in Rome, or the equally pious frauds who misuse the poor as a weapon for their own pseudo-Catholic “social justice” agenda. At least, he’s smart enough to believe that Christians and Muslims don’t worship the same God!

Would that Francis show such courage in his statements and actions! Would that JPII have done the same concerning Islam and persecuted Christians during his tenure!

And, no, I’m not suggesting that they actually go into Iraq and perform similar works. I’m suggesting that they stop this attitude of appeasement toward this vile “religion” and use their office to help Middle Eastern Christians aggressively!

Tim - June 21, 2017

“Oh, please! So what if he’s Protestant?”…………..Really?……please review the thrice defined dogma, Extra Eccleisia Nulla Salus. What a ridiculous comment from a Catholic.

“He’s a greater follower of Jesus than the pious frauds in Rome, or the equally pious frauds who misuse the poor as a weapon for their own pseudo-Catholic “social justice” agenda”…..perhaps, but what good does it do him if he dies outside the Church?

“At least, he’s smart enough to believe that Christians and Muslims don’t worship the same God!”……………………….a broken clock is correct twice a day.

“Would that Francis show such courage in his statements and actions! Would that JPII have done the same concerning Islam and persecuted Christians during his tenure!”,…………Indeed!….BUT….back to EENS, boy oh boy, those stubborn dogmas!!

“And, no, I’m not suggesting that they actually go into Iraq and perform similar works. I’m suggesting that they stop this attitude of appeasement toward this vile “religion” and use their office to help Middle Eastern Christians aggressively!”…..RIGHT. ON. THE. MONEY.!!…….which can all be accomplished with the consecration of Russia.

Tim - June 21, 2017

Neither Charity nor ‘Martyrdom’ Can Win
Salvation for Non-Catholics

The heresy of universal salvation has never been so broadly and profoundly preached and believed as it is in our times. Therefore, it seems opportune to remind our readers of the text of the Bull Cantate Domino by Pope Eugene IV (February 4, 1442), confirmed by the Council of Florence. It clearly states that neither works of charity nor even the ‘martyrdom’ of non-Catholics is of any avail for their salvation. If they do not enter the Catholic Church, they will go to Hell.

Pope Eugene IV

“The Holy Roman Church firmly believes, professes and preaches that all those who are outside the Catholic Church, not only pagans but also Jews or heretics and schismatics, cannot have a share in eternal happiness; but that they will go into the everlasting fire which was prepared for the Devil and his Angels (Matt 25: 41), unless they unite themselves to the Church before their death; and that so precious is the unity of this ecclesiastical body that only those who abide in it can benefit from the Church’s Sacraments for their salvation, and that they alone can receive an eternal recompense for their fasts, almsgiving and other works of piety and practices of the Christian militancy. No one, no matter how much he has given in alms and even if he has shed blood for the name of Christ, can be saved, unless he has persevered in the bosom and the unity of the Catholic Church.”

(Pope Eugene IV, Cantate Domino, Denzinger n. 714)

Joseph D'Hippolito - June 22, 2017

Tim, I suggest you re-read the Parable of the Good Samaritan, then meditate on the fact that first-century Jews considered Samaritans the way you and Catholics like you consider Protestants.

Jesus Himself is the Way, the Truth and the Life … not the Catholic, Eastern Orthodox or Protestant churches/denominations/sects/whatever you want to call them.

Tim - June 22, 2017

What gall, what do you know of what I think of protestants or anyone else for that matter. I’m quite familiar with the parable. I simply said that despite good or in this case great works….which they claim are unnecessary……if he dies outside of Christ’s TRUE CHURCH it does him ZERO good. You NEED to read Pope Eugene IV above, your argument is with him, Christ’s Vicar on earth, not me….I wish you luck. When you are done please inform us all of where Pope Eugene IV is in error…..I await your answer with great expectation!

Joseph D'Hippolito - June 23, 2017

“…what do you know of what I think of protestants…”

Well, your own comments reveal your thinking, unless you want to disown them, all of a sudden.

Tim - June 24, 2017

“Jesus Himself is the Way, the Truth and the Life”…..correct.

“not the Catholic” …..The Catholic Church is Christ’s Bride, Divinely instituted, so for you to say that she is not a vital part of Christ’s mission for the salvation of souls shows your utter ignorance of and/or contempt for the Catholic Church and Her doctrines.

” Eastern Orthodox or Protestant churches/denominations/sects/whatever you want to call them.”……..refer to Pope Eugene IV and take your argument up with him…..I still await for your expert analysis telling us of his errors.

“Well, your own comments reveal your thinking, unless you want to disown them, all of a sudden.”……..my comments real NOTHING of what I think of anyone. They simply convey the FACT that those outside the Catholic Church cannot be saved despite their good works and virtues. I know a lot of morally upstanding and genuinely kind and good non-Catholics, one of the most kind and moral people I have ever known was a mormon lady…..but that does’t change the fact that she is not in the bosom of Christ’s Church, the Ark of Salvation. Your comments are the ones that are quite revealing, you give the impression that you have contempt for those Catholics who know the doctrines of the Church. Instead of dealing with your own contempt/ignorance you attack myself, Camper and Tantum for simply uttering the Truth without judging these people. I hope they convert and attain salvation. I also hope that I can stay in a state of grace despite my many shortcomings, my ONLY hope is Christ’s Church and the Sacraments, especially confession which mercifully has cleansed me of my multitude of sins. The protestants refuse to avail themselves to these generous gifts. Pointing this out does not mean that we have disdain for them. As a matter of fact, we Catholics who point this out care more about them than the ecumaniacs who says “it’s all good” and other such nonsense. Indifference is the greatest form of hatred. Christ gave the Apostles a commission the convert people to the true Faith for their own good, not so they could think themselves important or “better”.

Pick up some pre-Vatican 2 books and learn something Joseph. Again, God Bless you and may He bring you to the Truth.

Joseph D'Hippolito - June 24, 2017

Tim: “my comments reveal NOTHING of what I think of anyone. ”

Jesus: “Not that which goeth into the mouth defileth a man: but what cometh out of the mouth, this defileth a man.”

If you want to lie to me, that’s your business. But when you lie to yourself and believe those lies, you lose your credibility.

I suggest you spend less time being a Traditionalist apologist and more time being honest with yourself. The human race, let alone the Catholic Church, doesn’t need another Mark Shea.

Tim - June 25, 2017

I don’t lie to anyone little Joey. I am not an apologist. When I see heterodoxy I call it out. You have a serious problem with dogma. I suggest that you pray for the grace to accept the “hard teachings” of the Church, if you reject EENS or any other dogma you forfeit eternal life, your choice Mr. Novus Ordo apologist.

Tim - June 26, 2017

My apologies for this last harsh comment Joseph. I offered my Communion this morning for you.

Tantum, sorry for this one getting so far along. My zeal occasionally gets the better of me.

tg - June 24, 2017

My thoughts too.

3. The Lord's Blog - June 21, 2017

Let me give you an example of a man like this and others like him—my father, his two brothers–WWII and in other wars and conflicts. My brother Vietnam. We have seen Catholic men doing this for centuries in the Catholic Church in peace and war. Protecting us with their lives so we could live. May they continue to do so. I hope we have another good Catholic out there who runs into this man and that we pray they become one of our own in the Catholic Church.

4. Baseballmomof8 - June 21, 2017

It is situations like this that cause me to think more deeply about how these souls are viewed by Almighty God. I think of the ten Boom sisters who were so totally dedicated to Christ both during and after WW2. Or men like CS Lewis who articulated Christianity to the secular world in a way that brought many souls to Jesus (in fact, I kid you not, as a young Catholic mom it was a Mormon friend who introduced me to Lewis and he strengthened me in my Catholicism) – “he who is not against Me is with Me.” Of course these souls would be ever more greatly blessed had they access to the sacraments- but are they denied eternal life with Him Who they loved and served their entire lives because they were in theological error?

Joseph D'Hippolito - June 22, 2017

See my reply to Tim on 6/22/17

Tim - June 22, 2017

The smart money is on EENS and Pope Eugene IV. That being said, pray for the conversions of non-Catholics and bad Catholics.

Tim - June 23, 2017

The Gospel of St. John:

“[46] Not that any man hath seen the Father; but he who is of God, he hath seen the Father. [47] Amen, amen I say unto you: He that believeth in me, hath everlasting life. [48] I am the bread of life. [49] Your fathers did eat manna in the desert, and are dead. [50] This is the bread which cometh down from heaven; that if any man eat of it, he may not die.

[51] I am the living bread which came down from heaven. [52] If any man eat of this bread, he shall live for ever; and the bread that I will give, is my flesh, for the life of the world. [53] The Jews therefore strove among themselves, saying: How can this man give us his flesh to eat? [54] Then Jesus said to them: Amen, amen I say unto you: Except you eat the flesh of the Son of man, and drink his blood, you shall not have life in you. [55] He that eateth my flesh, and drinketh my blood, hath everlasting life: and I will raise him up in the last day.

[56] For my flesh is meat indeed: and my blood is drink indeed. [57] He that eateth my flesh, and drinketh my blood, abideth in me, and I in him. [58] As the living Father hath sent me, and I live by the Father; so he that eateth me, the same also shall live by me. [59] This is the bread that came down from heaven. Not as your fathers did eat manna, and are dead. He that eateth this bread, shall live for ever.”

Are protestants condemned for being in theological error? That’s God’s call. Our Lord is quite clear about His doctrine in the above verses of St. John. Protestants universally reject and condemn the notion of Catholics receiving Christ’s Body and Blood in Holy Communion. So if they do not partake as Our Lord instructs and explains, how do they get to Heaven, short of being validly baptized and making a perfect act of contrition before death? Also, they reject Sacramental Confession…..if it weren’t for that Sacrament an unimaginable number of Catholics would be damned. Run the math all one wants…..it doesn’t add up unless they convert before death. As for modern Catholics who never go to Confession but receive Communion every Sunday, I fear that they are in the same boat.

I am always puzzled why simply pointing out TRUTH amongst fellow Catholics gets you excoriated as “mean” and “uncharitable”. I firmly believe those who do not defend the Truth or attempt to further it are the uncharitable ones.

5. jm - June 21, 2017

His good works avail him not if he does not become a Catholic. This is dogma, unless you accept the Vatican 2 heresy. We have to accept all Catholic magisterial doctrines, even the ones we “feel” uncomfortable with.

dthy - June 21, 2017

The sad thing is that those like him would probably have come to know Christ ( in the real sense, through His Church) long ago if the Church leaders of our age were really out there preaching the Gospel as Peter and the apostles did after that first Pentecost, instead of the talking about the weather (climate change) “dialogue” that we have nowadays.

Tantumblogo - June 22, 2017

A most fair point. I was struck with some sadness that this man is a member of a false sect, almost certainly holding numerous wrong or even heretical beliefs, and yet he has conviction to be doing this extraordinary work. Such souls were once found, at times in abundance, in the Catholic Church, but very rarely today.

Tim - June 22, 2017

Myself as well, despite what Joseph projects upon me. Again, read Pope Eugene IV.

Joseph D'Hippolito - June 22, 2017

See my reply to Tim on 6/22/17

Tim - June 22, 2017

I caution you, Joseph, that anyone who denies a dogma of the Faith puts himself outside the bosom of Holy Mother Church. I hope you are just confused. If you think I or Camper or Tantum want any human, Catholic or not, damnation, then you are sadly in grave error. We simply know the dogmas of the Faith. That knowledge should inspire you with fervent prayer for the conversion of these folks. God Bless you sir.

6. skeinster - June 21, 2017

This is why our missionaries in dangerous areas are celibate.

Tantumblogo - June 22, 2017

Now that’s a good comment.

7. Camper - June 21, 2017

I read about this man and his Burmese troopers in a magazine recently. Que hombre.


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