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Russians show how to respond to islamic harassment of women February 8, 2016

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At least in Murmansk, which is, probably not coincidentally, a major naval base and headquarters of the Russian Northern Fleet.

So a group of islamists were booted out of Norway and tried their hand in Russia.  They did their usual Saturday night harassment of women.  From there, they got a much different response than they have in the West:

A group of 51 refugees were brutally assaulted outside a night club in Murmansk, Russia, after they groped and molested women at a night club Saturday.

The refugees had previously been ordered to leave Norway for “bad behavior” and tried their luck in Russia. What they didn’t realize when they went out clubbing in Murmansk is that Russians have less tolerance when it comes to sexual assault on local women than other European countries. [Is tolerance the right word? Or is it indifference, cowardice, etc?]

The refugees allegedly groped and harassed women in a similar manner as the assaults in Cologne on New Year’s Eve. A group of male Russian took them aside to “educate” them that “Cologne is 2,500 kilometers south of here.”

The refugees tried to flee but were quickly captured by the Russians. They then took them out to the street and gave them a beating they will remember. Police arrived to break up the fight but locals report that they threw a few punches at the refugees before arresting 33 of them. Eighteen refugees were in such bad condition they had to be take to the hospital. [And they arrested the muslims.  Somehow, that’s beautiful.]

So I’m curious, what do you think of this?  I totally reject the idea that Christians are supposed to be pacifists, but at the same time, I don’t think mob violence correlates very well with what Our Savior imparted to us.  No war has been declared, certainly, but perhaps that is due to the effeminate weakness of our leaders.  Perhaps there is a practical state of war between islam and the historic heart of Christendom, Europe (if not the entire Christian world).  If that is the case, can responses like this be justified?  And who gets to make that call, given the near total abrogation of duty by our properly constituted state authorities?

Of course, many of those being molested are probably not even Christian, as are many of those laying the beat downs.  But I think there is a growing sense that our culture is slipping away, if it’s not gone too far already, and some are starting to take extreme measures to stop the further descent into cultural chaos.  A couple of weeks ago a group of masked men in Sweden attacked a bunch of muslims in Stockholm.  A growing number of Europeans see this kind of militant response as justified, given that most of their political/economic/social elites refuse to recognize the growing sense of unease over the mass muslim invasion.  But given Europe’s history, this could get really ugly, really quickly.

But while I expect some interreligious conflict, particularly in Russia and Eastern Europe, I actually tend to think most of Western Europe will continue with virtually no practical, organized response to the muslim invasion.  There will be attacks and reprisals here or there, but, for the most part, the muslims will come in growing numbers, and basically no one will do much about it, even as muslims continue to impose more and more of their “culture” on their hosts.

There are some Europe-based readers who think I am too negative in this assessment, however.  Whatever happens, I guess I’m probably naively optimistic to hope that our leaders on this continent learn from it.

“Saved by Race Alone:” Great riposte to Vatican’s Judaizing stand February 4, 2016

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This is really funny.  Picked it up from Pertinacious Papist.  An open letter from a Jewish Catholic convert to Francis, glad to know that, in true progressive biological determinative fashion, he is saved not by Grace, but by race, alone.  He is rather non-plussed over the donations he was encouraged to make over the years, though (my emphasis and comments):

His Holiness, Pope Francis
Vatican City
January, 2016
Dear Holy Father
I am a Jew. I have the assurance, as did Menachem Mendel Schneerson of Crown Heights, Brooklyn, of direct descent from King David on my father’s side (my mother, I was assured was descended of Hillel).
I am 74-years-old. I converted to the Roman Catholic Church at the age of 17 in the last year of the pontificate of Pope Pius XII. I did so because I was under the conviction that I had to accept and have faith that Jesus Christ was my savior, and I believed it. And I believed that I had to be a baptized member of his Church to have a chance of salvation. So I converted and was baptized in the Catholic Church, and then I was confirmed. [I know baptism by desire and blood, but I also know, a heckuva lot of older Catholics, raised in the pre-conciliar Church, were taught to the point of total conviction that one had to be a visible member of the Church to be saved.  My pious mother-in-law, God rest her soul, prayed constantly for my conversion based on that belief.]
Over the years I have contributed tens of thousands of dollars to both Peters’ Pence (the pope’s own treasury about which you of course must be very familiar), and my local parish and diocese.
During that time I attended thousands of Masses, hundreds of holy hours and novenas, said thousands of rosaries, and made hundreds of trips to the Confessional.
Now in 2015 and 2016 I have read your words and those of your “Pontifical Commission.” You now teach that because I am a racial Jew, God’s covenant with me was never broken, and cannot be broken. You don’t qualify that teaching by specifying anything I might do that would threaten the Covenant, which you say God has with me because I am a Jew. You teach that it’s an unbreakable Covenant. You don’t even say that it depends on me being a good person. Logically speaking, if God’s Covenant with me is unbreakable, then a racial Jew such as I am can do anything he wants and God will still maintain a Covenant with me and I will go to heaven. [The public declarations are so general this “automatic salvation” can be inferred.  Is it really extreme Zionist propaganda masquerading as new wisdom in the Church?]
Your Pontifical Commission wrote last December, “The Catholic Church neither conducts nor supports any specific institutional mission work directed towards Jews…it does not in any way follow that the Jews are excluded from God’s salvation because they do not believe in Jesus Christ as the Messiah of Israel and the Son of God.” [This statement still hurts.  Goodness what a repudiation of Jesus Christ.  Lord, I pray they know not what they do.]
You are the Pontiff. I believe what your Commission teaches under your banner and in your name, and what you declared during your visit to the synagogue in January. As a result, I no longer see any point in getting up every Sunday morning to go to Mass, say rosaries, or attend the Rite of Reconciliation on Saturday afternoon. All of those acts are superfluous for me. Predicated on your teaching, I now know that due to my special racial superiority in God’s eyes, I don’t need any of it. [It’s not just Jews, is it?  Many people are concluding they no longer need Mass, or don’t need to take Church Doctrine seriously, because “who am I to judge” and all the rest.  I personally two folks who have fallen away entirely in the last year, quoting Francis as they exited]
I don’t see any reason now as to why I was baptized in 1958. There was no need for me to be baptized. I no longer see why there was a need for Jesus to come to earth either, or preach to the Jewish children of Abraham of his day. As you state, they were already saved as a result of their racial descent from the Biblical patriarchs. What would they need him for? [Let’s just chuck the entire Gospel of John while we’re at it, right?]
In light of what you and your Pontifical Commission have taught me, it appears that the New Testament is a fraud, at least as it applies to Jews. All of those preachings and disputations to the Jews were for no purpose. Jesus had to know this, yet he persisted in causing a lot of trouble for the Jews by insisting they had to be born again, they had to believe he was their Messiah, they had to stop following their traditions of men, and that they couldn’t get to heaven unless they believed that he was the Son of God. [Can any of this be disputed? Can you imagine how this new line makes Jewish converts feel, how much torment and scandal it must cause?]
Your holiness, you and your Commission have instructed me in the true path to my salvation: my race. It’s all I need and all I have ever needed.God has a covenant with my genes. It’s my genes that save me. My eyes are open now. [Isn’t that more or less what the Jewish “dialoguers” with the Church have demanded, though?  A pretension that some are saved by race alone?  And how much is liberal katholyc acceptance of this driven by latent guilt for the Holocaust and whatever else?  Really, the pro-Jewish stance demanded of the Church devolves, like so many other progressive shibboleths, to “shut up,” Catholics]
Consequently, you will be hearing from my lawyer. I am filing suit against the papacy and the Roman Catholic Church. I want my money back, with interest, and I am seeking compensatory and punitive damages for the psychological harm your Church caused me, by making me think I needed something besides my own exalted racial identity, in order to go to heaven after I die. 
I am litigating as well over the time that I wasted that I could have spent working in my business, instead of squandering it worshipping a Jesus that your Church now says I don’t need to believe in for my salvation. Your prelates and clerics told me something very different in 1958. I’ve been robbed!
Genius.  I needed a laugh.  Might take a break this afternoon.  C ya later.

How can ecumenism be reconciled with St. Paul and the entire pre-conciliar Magisterium? February 3, 2016

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Older Catholics will tell you, they remember a day when it was clearly taught that to even step foot in a protestant church was a mortal sin.  Participating in the kind of “joint ecumenical service” that Francis – and he is not the first post-conciliar pope to do so – would have been utterly unthinkable.  The mind of  the Church was guided by St. Paul’s 2nd Letter to the Corinthians:

Bear not the yoke together with unbelievers. For what participation hath justice with injustice? Or what fellowship hath light with darkness?

 And what concord hath Christ with Belial? or what part hath the faithful with the unbeliever?

And what agreement hath the temple of God with idols? *For you are the temple of the living God: as God saith: **I will dwell in them, and walk among them, and I will be their God, and they shall be my people.

Wherefore, go out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord, and touch not the unclean thing:

Pope Pius XI taught that Catholics were forbidden to engage in liturgical celebrations with protestants, and in doing so he was only reiterating what the Church had clearly taught for some 350 years.  The post-conciliar Church has most frequently tried to pretend that protestants and Catholics both belong to some “invisible church” consisting of “believers” (usually reduced to a shared baptism), but this kind of thinking was rejected by numerous pre-conciliar popes.  Thus very clear statements such as those by St. Paul, which served as justification for “fundamentalists” like Saint Athanasius to have no contact with, and to give no recognition to, even the heretical Arian “Catholics” of his day.  St. Basil stated that the faithful should even go into the desert to offer Mass, rather than participate in the liturgies of the heretics of those days.

And yet here we are, 2000 years later, after a completely novel council, the first ever in the history of the Church to proclaim no dogma and declare no anathemas, with a radically changed mindset, a mindset that much more plays to worldly thinking and approval than to the constant belief and practice of the faith.

50 years ago, in the immediate wake of Vatican II, there was a great outburst of ecumenical efforts.  Thank God, those efforts largely subsided under the previous two pontificates (obviously, there were some scandalous exceptions, like Assisi), but they have come roaring back under Francis and especially in this run up to the 500th anniversary of the outbreak of the protestant heresy cum revolution.  It must be remembered that many leading lights at Vatican II were scandalous in their acceptance of protestant belief, from Congar to Bugnini, who felt that in many cases the protestants had got in more right than the early Church Fathers directly informed by the Apostles.  Congar reverenced Luther greatly, and Bugnini desired to create a Mass so bowdlerized of Catholic content that it would never be offensive to protestants.

Michael Matt and Christopher Ferrara have a valuable video on this subject below.  I found it providential that I read a biblical verse with a note that pointed me to II Cor vi:14-17 just hours before I saw this video show up in my Youtube feed.  I especially like the early reference Matt makes to St. Thomas More and his excoriation of protestants for loathing order and seeking to create a society based on disorder and the triumph of the will (which, perhaps, makes subsequent German history rather less than surprising).

Some more important points regarding the below.  I have already reported on the disturbingly pro-protestant nature of elements of this joint “liturgy” composed by uber-liberal Catholics in the Congregation for Christian Unity and the Lutheran World Federation. As Matt notes below, this Federation is exceedingly modernist/liberal in and of itself, and is rejected by more conservative Lutheran bodies like the Missouri Synod.  So what this amounts to is a self-congratulatory confab of progressives in the two bodies patting themselves on the back for their progressive beliefs.  But such has been the practical nature of the ecumenical movement since its inception, it’s far more about confirming progressives in their beliefs than it is concern for souls, arriving at the truth, or, most especially, conversion:

Is it too much saying that Francis is trying to destroy the Church, or complete its destruction?  As I said, these kinds of things have gone on for years, though not always with such fanfare, with such high-level participants, or with as much significance as the quincentenary portends.

Having said all that, I plan, for a time, to start ignoring the many problematic statements emanating from the Vatican, and limit myself to discussion/analysis of actions.  At this point, I think we, who pray we adhere to what the Church has always believed, know who and what this man is.  We know his penchant for highly destructive rhetoric.  To some degree, reporting on that is feeling like repetitive non-news (water is wet), and I also need to do so to preserve my own faith and sanity.  This planned confab with Lutheran heretics, and modernist ones at that, is a concrete act of such monumental significance that it does merit a good deal of coverage.  I pray somehow, by some miracle, there may be an end to all this, but I won’t hold my breath.

I think it important to stress that the ecumenical/interreligious dialogue movements are radically counter to the Church’s pre-conciliar approach, and serve as one of the prime indicators that the Council, no matter what was intended (those arguments are endless, and quite possibly were intended to be), ushered in an era where practice, and belief, was irreconcilable with the Catholic ethos before 1962.  That’s the take-home point.

Migrant harassment of women as sign of Western emasculation January 29, 2016

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A couple of interesting tidbits from Mark Steyn. The Anglican (ahem) Bishop of London has recommended his ministers grow muslim beards and wear muslim garb, the better to conduct “outreach” and fruitful “dialogue.”  Another way of looking at this is the islamification of the Church of England:

One of the priests praised by the Bishop of London, the Rev. Atkinson told The Telegraph he found having a beard had helped provide a connection with many people in his parish, around 85 per cent of whom are Muslim…

He said he had forged new links with people after growing his facial hair.

He explained: ‘It is an icebreaker – St Paul said “I become all things to all men that by all possible means I might save some”…[Well St. Paul did not partake in pagan orgies in order to build bridges and maybe one day, 80 years hence, win a single convert]

So Western men now feel they need to ape muslim behaviors in order to demonstrate leadership and masculinity.  Gotcha.

Not unrelated, a German woman has taken to Youtube imploring the men of her country to stand up for libertine ideals and protect their women.  The men yawned, turned up the TV, and took another chug of beer:

One time in summer, the Muslims said we were sluts for walking outside in a t-shirt. Yes, we were wearing t-shirts. It’s summer!

Another day, I was wearing this. My friend and I purchased it while shopping hehe. If we feel like wearing it, we will wear it! And you Muslims have no right to physically assault or rape us for it! God willing, never in my life. You have no right to attack us because we are wearing t-shirts. You also have no right to rape.

The life of Germany has changed because these people cannot integrate. We give them so much help. We support them financially and they do not have to work. But they only want more babies and more welfare and more money. Men of Germany, please, patrol the streets and protect us. Do this for your women and your children.

This begging of men to defend native women from muslim rapine does raise an interesting question: why haven’t many, or any, done so?  There actually was a protest against the islamification of Europe a few weeks ago, one that featured 3000 marchers and 1500 police and which descended into violence under what some participants believed was the influence of agents provacatuer planted by the police, who seem far more concerned about protecting the left-wing political “consensus” than protecting women from being raped and harassed.

But a protest is different from taking to the streets to prevent attacks on women, and it is not the same thing as responding to muslim depredations when they are seen occurring.  Now it’s possible such responses have been buried by the media – though I have no idea why, they would love to trumpet some ugly “reactionary,” “anti-muslim” behavior – but I tend to imagine it’s more because they simply are not happening.  Why?  Do many Western men secretly long to see women subjugated, islam-style?  I doubt it.  Is it because they simply weren’t present?  Perhaps, but that raises another question……why are women going out in areas with few native but bunches of muslim men?

I imagine the real answer, however, has something to do with the decades long feminist-leftist campaign to emasculate men and render them essentially neuter.  Feminism has degenerated from a campaign to ostensibly elevate women into one that now nakedly seeks to lower men, especially outwardly masculine men.  That campaign has taken a huge toll.  Not that many men have fought it.  Far too many have simply rolled over and submitted.

That’s not to say there is no positive defense being mounted by European men.  See the rallies in Poland.  It’s just that there hasn’t been nearly enough of this (we must keep in mind, however, that immigrants are protected by numerous laws, and can even deliberately provoke police and expect almost no reaction, so many “rights” have been accorded them by the governing elites who seem hell bent on destroying the nations they govern).

Ultimately, that’s what islam demands of all…..submission.  Indeed, that is what the term “islam” means – submission.  It seems the immigrants flooding Europe are making quite a bit of headway getting Europe to submit.  Church of England ministers are visibly submitting to islamic dictates (and if they make even a single convert, I will be totally shocked).  While left-liberalism is a pseudo-religion, when confronted with a very strong true religion, it will always fold. The reaction of European liberals to the ongoing muslim invasion have only confirmed my belief that there will be no great “war” between the libertine left and the muslim invaders……..the left will happily submit (it will take some time, but it’s already happening).

That’s because leftism is a specifically anti-Christian religion/ethos.  So long as the “strong horse” religion they submit to, or even convert to, is not Christianity, the vast majority will be content to do so.  Thus the diabolical origin of leftism is confirmed. Certainly, there are other factors at play and other explanations can be offered, but man is inseparable from the religious nature God gave him, and religious behavior – even when such is specifically denied – tends to predominate in the lives of many.  Europe lost its soul when it rejected Christianity, en masse, and opened itself up to a diabolical replacement.

God allows our sins to be our undoing.  Europe’s rejection of Christianity is proving the maxim.

The best evangelization isn’t new, it’s the same old ways that always worked January 27, 2016

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That was my takeaway from the beautiful communique from Fr. Lawrence Carney, about whom I’ve written before.  I haven’t much to add, save that all the plans, programs, vast expenditures, and endless navel gazing of the so-called new evangelization haven’t amounted to a hill of beans, while a solitary priest giving witness to the Faith with great charity and in the constant Tradition of the Church is having an actual positive impact.  God Bless Fr. Carney:

+JMJ+

Laudentur Jesus et Maria!

The greatest benefactors pray for the birth of a new religious order.

Today I was outside praying the Divine Office of None. When I came into a coffee shop a lady, who I will call 54651d0500414-preview-300Katherine, asked me if I could talk. Her first question was, “Where are you stationed?” I said, “Come over and sit down at that table with me and I will pull out some CDs.” I pulled out the CDs that the Benedictines of Mary, Queen of Apostles produce. I pointed to one of the pictures of the nuns in the chapel on the back of one of the CDs, saying, “I celebrate the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass for the nuns who live in the countryside around Gower. Do you know of Gower?” She said, “Yes.” She said, “I have seen you walking everywhere and have always wanted to talk to you. I am a Protestant Baptist. I think, our pastor…” whom we will call Lawrence, “…wants to meet you.” She explained some personal background of this pastor. I told her, “Here is my card. See I am a missionary priest. I bring people to the Holy Altars of God. Do you want to hear a story?” She said, “Yes.”

“In the 17th century a man by the name of St. Francis de Sales would walk around the city of Chablais. He refused the horse or carriage because he wanted to be seen by the people so he would walk. Decades prior to his arrival, the town was all Catholic, 72,000 strong. But Calvin came and all became Calvinist, except 100. He was so gentle to the people who would meet him that word got around. They would hear of his sweetness, his listening and encouraging. His method was cor ad cor loquitur, ‘heart speaks to heart.’ I showed her a coat of arms of my friend who is a bishop and bears that very motto, cor ad cor loquitur. I continued, “The gold of St. Francis’ heart and the sweetness of his words took root in the people. He would write notes and slip them under people’s doors. In three years time, guess how many people reverted back to the Catholic faith?” Katherine looked at me puzzled, “Half?” I said, “Zero! His method was so gentle that it did not cause people to revert immediately, but his words did begin to take root although there was little visible fruit. He continued this way, refusing the carriage and after twenty-five years, guess how many people converted?” Katherine again looked at me and shuck her head. I continued, “Almost all 72,000 reverted back to the Catholic faith!” [True, and great, story]

Our conversation continued. She wished for me to meet her Protestant pastor who is a fallen-away Catholic. I gave her my card and told her I would also like to meet him. She took her leave after a good 30 minute conversation. I will give her name and the pastor to the nuns and they will intercede for them.

It was almost a year ago when I was speaking with another Protestant Pastor who I will call Daniel. I was invited to their music festival and hot dog stand. He showed me his ministry. As we were snarfing down hot dogs, I pointed at the old Immaculate Conception Church here in St. Joseph.

He said, “Oh yes, I used to be a parishioner there.” Here is another man who not only has left the Catholic Church but has started his own church.

I used to be an investment analyst. My job was to look at the trends of Income Statements and Balance Sheets of businesses. If they were trending down, we would sell. If they were trending up, we would buy.

Here are a few numbers. It is estimated that almost one out of ten United States Americans is a fallen-away Catholic. You can go to the web searching for: CARA whose research is done in Georgetown University. They have trends of the US Catholic population over the last 50 years. If I put on my investment analyst hat on for a minute and saw the numbers of the US Catholic Church, I would say sell, sell, sell, until management changes course. [The second largest denomination in the US would be fallen away Catholics if they counted as such. And the numbers are increasing of late.]

But I do not wear a business hat anymore. I wear a biretta at Mass and a Saturno outdoors.

In the Catholic Church, Jesus Christ is the King. He is our One Shepherd and he has one sheepfold, the Church he left behind. The gates of Hell shall never prevail against her. We can never sell His Church. We must remain within Her and put our gifts at His service.

54651d04a7580-preview-300The time has come for the Church to go out and snatch the sheep wondering on the precipice of hell. Imagine if these two pastors were approached by St. Francis de Sales. He was 99.86% successful at bringing back the lost sheep into the fold. He would bring back about 999 out of 1,000 people who met in Chablas after 25 years. With these numbers, not only would the pastors come back to the Catholic Church, but they would bring their parishioners, too. In fact the whole city of St. Joseph, Missouri, all 76,000 would become Catholic. Imagine if fifty monks would travel two by two, as Jesus says, in their habits every afternoon in the city of St. Joseph for 25 years? [I really love this vision, and would love to see it come to fruition, but we must be honest and admit that there is enormous institutional opposition within the Church to seeing a traditional practice of the Faith, and traditional means of evangelization, reinstituted on any kind of a regular basis.  Most dioceses behave as if they would rather see another 500,000 Catholics fall away than admit the Vatican II embrace of modernity and worldliness has been an unmitigated disaster – and that’s exactly what most diocesan leadership views a mass return of Tradition as signaling. Ideology is an almost impossible barrier to overcome] 

Tomorrow I have a very important meeting at 11:00 AM. This is a very important person who can influence the minds of leaders in the United States Catholic Hierarchy. Please pray a Rosary that he will receive my story well. I never really thought I would be into sales, but I want to duplicate what St. Francis de Sales did in Chablas. His currency was not the Dollar, but 72,000 souls reverting back to the Church. His success relied on a deep life of heroic prayer and heroic virtue. Pray that I receive the ability to be like St. Francis de Sales so people like Pastor Lawrence and Pastor Daniel and their parishioners will revert back to the Holy Altars of God. [Guess I’m late. I suspect that meeting has passed, as this was posted yesterday.  Nevertheless, I will pray, since prayer can work out of time]

Ad Jesum per Mariam,
Fr. Carney

———-End Quote———–

We need many more such men.  Thousands, not the hundreds there are now.

Dominus vobiscum!

Franciscan Ecumania Gathering Steam as 500th Anniversary of Protestant Revolt Approaches January 25, 2016

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Two recent posts by Rorate highlight the growing impetus in the pontificate of Francis to give tremendous credence to protestant claims by participating in “celebrations” marking the 500th anniversary of the (to date) permanent rending of the union of Christendom and the launching point for the unleashing of forces that have all but totally destroyed Western Civilization.  That is to say, events are to be given official approbation, if not approval, and the direct participation of the highest levels of the Church (to the scandal of millions), which should rightly be lamented and deplored.

Nevertheless, the new god of ecumenism must be worshiped, and worshiped it shall be, apparently for an interminable year-plus.

First up, Pope Francis will participate in a common worship service with Lutheran heretics in Sweden on All Hallow’s Eve this year (more on the date below):

Vatican Radio confirms (Pope Francis to travel to Sweden for joint Reformation commemoration) that the event on October 31 is intended to kick off a whole year of events marking the 500th anniversary of the Protestant Reformation.

The Pope will lead the “common worship service” along with two Lutheran leaders: Lutheran World Federation (LWF) President Bishop Dr Munib A. Younan and LWF General Secretary Rev. Dr Martin Junge. It will be held in Lund cathedral, a medieval cathedral held by the Lutherans from the 1530’s to the present day. [That is, it was stolen from the Church in the protestant revolution, occupied by heretics who very often (I don’t know the details of this particular occupation) killed or drove off those Catholics who refused to depart.  In the process of the “reformation,” tens if not hundreds of thousands of faithful Catholics were killed, while priceless treasures of art and architecture were lost forever in pogroms of iconoclastic destruction]

The common worship will be based on the controversial “Common Prayer” liturgical order published earlier this month by the Pontifical Council for Promoting Christian Unity (PCPCU) and the Lutheran World Federation (LWF). As we have earlier reported this “order” contains prayers and passages extolling Martin Luther and the Reformation. We can only hope that these truly scandalous prayers will not be included in the actual service to be headed by the Pope. [I blogged on that horrid liturgy here]

About the date……how significant is that?  This is All Hallow’s Eve.  Did they originally want All Saints Day?  That is a time of year in the Church that is very special, with great indulgences available for the faithful to earn for the souls in Purgatory…….and just exactly the kind of belief that Luther founded his revolution against.  That is to say, a day more significant to the protestant revolution, and offensive to Catholic belief, could hardly be chosen.  Luther was no fool when he chose that day in 1517 to nail his erroneous theses to the door of Wurttemburg Cathedral.  That the Church would go along in celebrations of this foul date, which so cut against huge swaths of the sacred beliefs for which thousands of martyrs (many of them now canonized Saints) went to their deaths is simply incredible.  What an insult to their memory and all they stood for.  But the world, or at least the progressive portion of it, will cheer wildly, as they will see very clearly what grave damage is being done to the Church’s reputation in the process.

And as an indication of where this kind of runaway ecumania will shortly lead (it’s 1968 all over again!), another post from Rorate indicates that the heretofore relatively moribund ecumenical “movement” has sprung to new life under this pontificate, with precious distinctions being thrown out the window and a largely “kumbayah” approach:

Although the Pope has previously chosen to wash the feet of both non-Catholics and non-Christians, Archbishop Arthur Roche, secretary of the Congregation for Divine Worship, cautioned that the new change does not necessarily include them.

In Jan. 21 comments to CNA, the archbishop said that the changes are meant for “the local community,” and members of “the local parish.”

He said that reading the decree as an invitation for non-Catholics to participate would be a “selective interpretation” of the text, and that while this could be something that happens “in the future,” it’s probably not what the Pope’s decision intended.

However, Archbishop Roche did say that although the decree is meant for the local community, it’s possible that a non-Catholic spouse of a parishioner who regularly attends the Catholic liturgy could be chosen to participate…….

……According to Edward Pentin, a group of Lutheran pilgrims were given communion in St. Peter’s Basilica itself this week. What is significant here is that communion was offered to them unilaterally by the celebrants of the Mass — the Lutherans themselves were expecting to receive only a blessing, and the celebrants knew they were not Catholics. [From no longer being a “reward for good behavior,” the Eucharist has become a worthless object handed out to anyone.  That’s why standards exist, that’s why distinctions are made, and when those are pulled down, the very sanctity, or meaning, of the sacred matter deteriorates down into meaningless dreck in no time.  I am not saying that the Eucharist has lost its sacredness and profound meaning, I am saying it is being treated as such]

It is scarcely possible that this happened without the knowledge of the Basilica authorities. Are we now seeing the practical effects of Francis’ ambivalent words on holy communion for Lutherans?

Those mean ‘ol bastions may have been torn down 50 years ago, but there was still some rubble in the way preventing total ease of occupation of the Church by secular pagan authorities.  Some bulldozers seem to have been provided to helpfully clear that out of the way and construct a superhighway from the world straight into the bosom of the Church – as a form of outreach, of course!  But it’s never quite revealed just whom is reaching out to whom, or perhaps invading whom would be the more apt phrase.  I guess we know, now.

Religion of Peace Alert: Afghan cuts off wife’s nose when she opposes his 2nd “marriage”…..to 6 year old January 21, 2016

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Ah, the joys of the religion of peace.  Brutal subjugation of women.  Ritualized child rape (of either sex).  Slavery.  Freedom to murder in the name of “god.”  Oh yes, surely another valid covenant and path to Heaven, no need to convert from this satan-inspired religion, at all:

The woman, Reza Gul, 20, was attacked by her husband with a knife on Sunday in Shar-Shar, a village in an impoverished and Taliban-controlled part of Faryab Province.

On Sunday afternoon, Zarghona said, Reza Gul and Mr. Khan got into an argument over his having taken his uncle’s 6- or 7-year-old daughter as his fiancée, [so not only a 6  year old, but a niece!  And how about the father willing to sell his 6  year old!  And this is not unusual in islam, at all. South and Central Asia, in particular, are rife with such perverse barbarity]  with the intention of making her his second wife this year. During the dispute, Mr. Khan erupted into a rage, took a knife and cut off his wife’s nose, said Zarghona, who goes by a single name.

Mr. Khan and one of his brothers then threw Reza Gul on the back of a motorcycle with the intention of taking her away to kill her, Zarghona said. But news of the attack spread quickly in the village, causing an uproar, and Mr. Khan fled for his life.

“I went to the Taliban,” Zarghona said. “I asked them: ‘Is this the Islam we are following? My daughter’s nose chopped off? But you are doing nothing about it. I want justice.’ ”

Mr. Yaqubi, the police official, said the authorities had heard that “the Taliban has already arrested Muhammad Khan, and he is presently in their custody.”

“We don’t know what they plan to do with him, but we will follow the case and bring him to justice.”

Well given that the Taliban has supported child rape posing as marriage before, I imagine they’re on the horns of a dilemma in this case.

Islam countenances all the following:

  1. Bigamy (and trigamy and more)
  2. Keeping of slaves, especially female
  3. Buying and selling of children as possible
  4. Child rape (male and female)
  5. Brutal treatment of women (to nary a peep from Western feminists)
  6. An institutionalized culture of violence and “might makes right”
  7. General barbarism (which is why islamic “culture” is frozen at about the 9th century level)
  8. Use of the sword and male dominance of women as its major tools of “evangelization”
  9. Ritualized rape of adult women if they are not defended by male relatives
  10. Murder of women raped by men for “adultery”

But it’s a religion of peace, from which muslims need not even consider conversion to faith in Jesus Christ!  I know this, because Franky said so!

And just what have our billions squandered on such a deliberately backwards land accomplished?  We may as well have just had a giant bonfire with it, for all its accomplished.  Brits, Russians, and Americans have tried for nearly 200 years to bring some semblance of order, decency, and civilization to Afghanistan…….I think we can judge that at this time it is simply impossible.

I should also add that Afghani men have been identified as leading perpetrators of the mass sexual assault against women in European cities recently.  And yet our president would open this country to at least some number of these people.

I know what’ll fix ’em up good!  Some dialogue!  Sick Cardinals Koch and Parolin on them and I’m sure their dulcet tones will sing a song that will bring islam right into the 21st century as an eager partner of FrancisChurch in building a New World Order!  Those guys bring success to every endeavor!

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While Cardinal Koch dreams of the future of the “priesthood” in the background.

Vatican preparing a betrayal of the Church in China? January 20, 2016

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Vox Cantoris has a couple of posts on the renewal of the idol “dialogue” between the Vatican and the Chicom government.  The second of the two contains commentary from Cardinal Emeritus Zen of Hong Kong, seemingly the last of the old lions of the free, true Chinese Church.  Cardinal Zen is having nothing of the dialogue being pursued by arch-liberal Cardinal Parolin and the Vatican bureaucracy.  It seems our new progressive overlords have in mind a replay of the Ostpolitik that helped maintain the communists in power for years in Eastern Europe while throwing faithful, saintly souls like Cardinal Mindzenty under the bus.

I take excerpts from Cardinal Zen below.  Emphasis from Vox, my comments:

I remember that at the beginning of last year the newspaper Wen Wei Po announced jubilantly that “relations between China and the Vatican will soon have a good development.” Soon after, the Vatican Secretary of State said that “the prospects are promising, there is a desire for dialogue on both sides.” I had my doubts about this unexpected wave of optimism, I saw no basis for this optimism. More than a thousand crosses were removed from the top of the churches (in some cases the churches themselves have been destroyed). After so long, we can no longer delude ourselves that this was anything beyond an episode of some local official’s exaggerated zeal. Several seminaries have been closed. Students of the National Seminary in Beijing were forced to sign a declaration of loyalty to the Independent Church, promising also to concelebrate with illegitimate bishops (otherwise they would not receive a diploma at the end of their studies). The Government is continuously strengthening a church that now objectively is already separated from the universal Catholic Church; with enticements and threats they induce the clergy to perform acts contrary to the doctrine and discipline of the Church, denying their conscience and their dignity. [I agree the Chinese Patriotic church is already schismatic. It always has been.  As for whether prelates and priests who cooperate with the state-owned church are violating their conscience, that is known only to God]

………. Pressed by some journalists as to whether there was real progress, Cardinal Parolin responded: “The fact that we speak is already positive.” It seems that there is no agreement in sight as of yet……..[The holy grail of dialogue has been found!  God be praised!]

…….So what is the formula now under discussion for the appointment of bishops? As an old Cardinal out on the peripheries, I have no way of knowing, let alone guessing.

A recent article “A winter of darkness for religions in China” by Bernardo Cervellera on AsiaNews, says: “From information that has arrived from China it would seem that Beijing’s proposal is limited to complete recognition by the Holy See for all official bishops (even illegitimate and excommunicated bishops), without any mention of the unofficial bishops and those in prison; Vatican approval of the government recognized Council of Bishops, which excludes underground bishops; approval of the competency of this Council (and not the Pope) in the appointment of new candidates to the episcopacy who will be “democratically” elected (in short according to the suggestions of the Patriotic Association). The Holy See must approve the Council’s appointment and has a weak veto only in “severe” cases, which must be justified if used. If the Holy See’s justifications are considered “insufficient”, the Council of Bishops may decide to proceed anyway”. [Long story short, negotiating with communists, without a few hundred B-52s in your back pocket, is a complete waste of time unless one is prepared to completely, utterly capitulate.  That certainly appears to be the case with the Church’s “dialogue” with the evil, Christ-hating Chinese Communist junta]

If this information is accurate, can the Holy See accept the claims of the Chinese counterpart? [Nope]  Does this approach still respect the true authority of the Pope to appoint bishops? [Nope]  Can the Pope can sign such an agreement? [Sure, he can sign, but it would be a total betrayal of the faithful in China and around the world and the largest scandal of this papacy to date]   (Pope Benedict said: “The authority of the Pope to appoint bishops is given to the church by its founder Jesus Christ, it is not the property of the Pope, neither can the Pope give it to others”).

Do our officials in Rome know what an election is in China? Do they know that the so-called Episcopal Conference is not only illegitimate, but simply does not exist? What exists is an organism that is called “One Association and One Conference”, namely the Patriotic Association and the Bishops’ Conference always work together as one body, which is alwayschaired by government officials (there are pictures to prove it, the Government does not even try more to keep up appearances, it starkly flaunts the fact that they now manage religion!). Signing such an agreement means the authority to appoint bishops delivering the Church into the hands of an atheist government. [That’s the whole point!  Why do you think the Chicoms are so eager to have this dialogue?!?  This is their first clear opportunity in 60 years to get the Church clearly and totally under their blood-stained thumbs!  They recognize a fellow-traveler when they see one]

This scheme is often compared to a (poorly defined) Model Vietnamese, but it is much worse. The Vietnamese model is based on an initiative that began with the Church in Vietnam, the true Catholic Church in Vietnam. In China on the other hand, the so-called Association and Conference hide the reality that it is the Government calling the shots. [And the Vietnamese situation is far from ideal]

Even in Eastern Europe of the past, such as in Poland and Czechoslovakia, it was the Church that took the initiative and then gave the Government veto power. In doing so, even if the government vetos a proposal for the hundredth time, it is still the Church that presents a candidate and makes the appointment. If the Government insists on a veto, it will only prolong the impasse, and it will still allow the Church time to look for a suitable candidate. But it is unthinkable to leave the initial proposal in the hands of an atheist Government who cannot possible judge the suitability of a candidate to be a bishop. Obviously, if the Church gives in to pressure from the government, the only result – despite proclamations to the contrary – is that it will have sold out the pontifical right to appoint bishops. Can this happen? According to an article written by a certain András Fejerdy: “For pastoral reasons – that is, because the full administration of the sacraments requires completely consecrated bishops – the Holy See believed that the completion of the Hungarian Bishops’ Conference was so urgent that it accepted a solution that formally did not upset the canonical principle of free appointment, but that in practice gave the regime a decisive influence in choosing the candidates”. [Meaning, under the disastrous “Ostpolitik” of the former record-holder for most progressive Pope in modern history, Paul VI, the Church surrendered her liberty and her sacred rights in order to appease a murderous leftist authoritarian regime]

UCAN News reports recent news from Chengdu (Sichuan): “Shortly after the visit of the Vatican delegation to Beijing, the Holy See approved the episcopal candidate elected in May 2014”. Is this also a case of “not upsetting the canonical principle of free appointment, but …in practice giving the regime a decisive influence in choosing the candidates “? [Chicoms choose a figurehead bishop, likely more beholden to Beijing than to God, and the Church goes along.  Very not good, especially given the thousands of bishops, priests, and faithful killed or indefinitely imprisoned by this communist cabal for defending the True Faith!]

The aforementioned AsiaNews article stated, again based on information received from China: “Beijing (demands) the Holy See’s recognition of all the official bishops, even the illegitimate and excommunicated ones.” I wonder: is it only the government that makes these demands, without repentance of those concerned? Will the excommunicated only be released from excommunication or even recognized as bishops? Even without any act of repentance? Has the mercy of God come to this? Will the faithful be obliged to obey these bishops? [Great questions]

So much remains to be resolved.

Illegitimate bishops who have been excommunicated have abused the sacramental power (including ordination of deacons and priests) and judicial (assigning offices) and the Holy See seems to be without rebuke for them. [There hasn’t been much rebuke for decades, going back to JPII.  Pope Benedict was somewhat better, but only somewhat.  Fear of men, and all that. Church leaders tie themselves in not worrying over the “pastoral implications” of doctrinal matters that should be crystal clear.  It’s the worst of both worlds.] 

…….Shortly after the Vatican delegation’s journey to Beijing began, the government organized a large gathering of Church leaders, forcing on that occasion a celebration of all the bishops, legitimate, illegitimate and excommunicated. These are all objectively schismatic acts. [Think about that] The government now can string along a large number of bishops, resulting in an irrecoverable loss of dignity. If the Holy See signed some agreement with the Government without clarifying all these things, it will cause a severe wound to the conscience of the faithful……. [And given the overall poor health of the Church in China, and the enormous inroads protestants have made there, a potentially fatal one]

……….Obviously our underground communities are non-existent for the Government. But now is even the Vatican ignoring them in negotiations, to appease their Chinese counterparts?  [I have long sensed – going back to before Pope Francis  – that the underground Church is something of an embarrassment to many in the Curia.  The progressives there would really like them to go away, so they can have the “victory” of normalizing relations with a schismatic group of government-controlled dupes] To “save the day” will we abandon our brothers and sisters? But they are the healthy limbs of the Church! (Of course, they too have their problems, especially when dioceses remain without bishops, which can only lead to disorder). Is silencing the underground community to please the government not a form of suicide?

In the recent negotiations there has been no mention of the case of Msgr. James Su Zhimin in prison for 20 years. Nor of Msgr. Thaddeus Ma Daqin of Shanghai under house arrest for more than three years because these issues have been deemed “too sensitive”!?

……..Beijing has no intention of negotiating, only making demands.

…….What makes me restless is the sight of our Eminent Secretary of State still intoxicated by themiracles of Ostpolitik. In a speech last year, at a Memorial for Card. Casaroli, he praised the success of its predecessor in having secured the existence of the Church hierarchy in the communist countries of Eastern Europe. He says: “In choosing candidates for the episcopate, we choose shepherds and not people who systematically oppose the regime, people who behave like gladiators, people who love to grandstand on the political stage.” I wonder: Who had he in mind while making this description? I fear that he was thinking of a Cardinal Wyszynski, a Cardinal Mindszenty, a Cardinal Beran. But these are the heroes who bravely defended the faith of their people! It terrifies me to think this way and I sincerely hope that I am wrong. [Ostpolitik was possibly the greatest diplomatic disaster of the Church in the past 200 years.  It was also a pastoral disaster.  Ostpolitik played a substantial role in helping the communist states of Eastern Europe survive a further 20 years.  It resulted in many great, holy, faithful men being thrown under the bus.  I wonder if their well-deserved reputations as opponents of leftism, within the Church and without, played a role in that process under the pontificate of Paul VI and the many progressives he appointed to the Curia?  I know one thing for certain – Paul VI, Cardinal Casaroli, and the other architects of Ostpolitik have blood on their hands.]

The innocent children were killed, the angel told Joseph to take Mary and the Child and flee to safety. But today would our diplomats advise Joseph to go and humbly beg for dialogue with Herod!?

Is that even a question at this point?  Is there anything more exalted, more precious, more holy to most of the institutional Church today than Saint Dialogue the Endless?

I don’t have any clear answers to Cardinal Zen’s many trenchant questions (and note, he also said he his many important concerns have been totally ignored by the Vatican), but I do know this: I get very nervous whenever a left-leaning (or falling) Vatican negotiates with an authoritarian, left-wing government.  The lure of a deal, any deal, regardless of the price, may simply be too great to resist, and progressives tend to be manifestly blind to the evils of governments they see as being on the side of goodness and light.

Long enough post. I actually worked on this on Monday but thought it was too long, then I see Life Site News ran it yesterday!  So I figured what the heck.

Good but sad – Syriac Christian women fighting ISIS January 19, 2016

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Syriac Christian women, tired of seeing their region overrun by fire-breathing mohammadans and exposed to rape, theft, murder, and all the other attendant evils, have taken up arms, forming at least some kind of reserve force in the area.  I’m glad to see anyone defending these ancient Christian communities so under threat, but at the same time, it’s far from ideal for women to ever have to serve in combat:

…….The Syriac Christians Brigade is an all-female fighting force made up of Syrian Christian women and mothers who refuse to submit to ISIS, or Daesh as they like to call them.

The women all speak and pray in Aramaic, the native language of Jesus of Nazareth from the Bible. [Have we really fallen so far that we now have to present Jesus with references, as in that guy from that book from way back when?] In contrast to the suicide bombers some female ISIS recruits aspire to become, the Syriac Christians Brigade hopes to hone their battle skills, with some even desiring to become snipers.

Some of the women were encouraged to become fighters by their husbands who also serve as soldiers. “I’m a practicing Christian, and thinking about my children makes me stronger and more determined in my fight against Daesh (ISIS),” said a female fighter named Babylonia. Her husband encouraged her to fight “against the idea that the Syriac woman is good for nothing except housekeeping and make-up.”

Remembering the massacres in 1915 of Syriac, Assyrian and Chaldean Christians was a good enough reason for some of the females to join the fight against ISIS. Eighteen-year-old Ithraa told AFP that “We are a community that is oppressed by others,” and that she and her female comrades hope to prevent “a new massacre like that committed by the Ottomans… when they tried to erase our Christian and Syriac identity.”

As Western Journalism has reported, ISIS fighters fear being killed by a woman on the battlefield. According to the tradition followed by these terrorists, death at the hand of a female is a one-way ticket to hell.

OH then I have a solution for ISIS in a heartbeat!

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Normally I oppose women in combat, but this would simply make too much sense and be far too easy.

Or just have a woman press the bomb release button in a B-52.  Whatever it takes.

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It’s only a measly 100 kt but there should still be dozens in service.

Patriarch Kiril: sodomy to blame for rise of ISIS January 19, 2016

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No, not this ISIS:

That one’s really lame.  No, he had in mind the other ISIS, the one that likes to burn people and chop their heads off.  In reality, while I’m sure the left wing are clutching their pearls and flying to their fainting couches, Patriarch Kiril is far from entirely off-base in his analysis:

The head of the Russian Orthodox Church has partially blamed an increased acceptance of homosexuality for the rise of Isis.

Patriarch Kirill claimed he was not surprised that some Muslims are flocking to Isis’ quasi-religious state as a way of escaping the “godless civilization” that celebrates events such as Gay Pride[Obviously something is quite lacking in the West these days for at least some native young people to go join an organization as barbarous and cruel as ISIS.  Some are probably sickos, but I think some are just very, very lost in a culture that gives them nothing substantive to cling to (assuming they are thoroughly unchurched).

In an interview published on the Church’s official website, Kirill said: “[Isis] is creating a civilization that is new by comparison to the established one that is godless, secular and even radical in its secularism.” [I still say they are two competing religions, leftism and islamism]

“We can have parades for the sexual minorities – that is supported – but a million French Christian protestors defending family values are broken up by police,” he added. [Sort of.  Or thousands of muslim men can rape and assault on New Year’s Eve with only 183 cops deployed, but when about 3000 men march against mass muslim immigration, almost ten times as many cops are deployed (in Germany).  We get the message, loud and clear.]

Kiril said because the “godless civilization is reaching maturity”, it should come as no surprise that those who are opposed to liberal, secular ideas end up joining terror organisations. [How about orthodox Christianity as an alternative?  Of course the sexular pagan elites have no interest in pursuing that, and even our own Church seems to have largely given up evangelizing over the past 50 years.]

“If you call non-traditional relationships a sin, as the Bible teaches and you are a priest or pastor, then you risk not only your ability to serve but you may be sent to prison,” he said.

“I could offer more simply frightening examples of how the godless civilization is growing yet here they are drawing attention to young people being converted by extremists,” he added. [Meaning the hypocrisy of the double standard is disgusting as in fact at the root of the problem. So long as the culture is leftist, and continues to wage war against Christianity, then things like radical islam are going to proliferate.]

Look how they [the West] build the world – an unholy world – but we invite you to build God’s world…And they [Isis supporters] respond to that; it is for this they give their lives,” he added[A little messier in logic than I would like. ISIS is not building a holy world or anything like that.  They are manifestly unholy. And yet the Russian Orthodox Church declared Russia’s military intervention in Syria a holy war.  That doesn’t make much sense.  He almost seems to be saying we should make common cause with ISIS against leftism. BAD IDEA]

Kiril also appeared to controversially support Isis’ widely dismissed self-declaration of an Islamic caliphate by claiming that many who have flocked to live under the terror group are “honest” people who did so on “truly religious grounds”……. [I’m sure some just came for the raping and pillaging.]

……..“We face enormous temptations when countries start approving sin and codifying it into law in order to justify it,” he added.

That’s a good quote. As for the rest, while I agree that the sexular pagan leftism destroying the West has played a substantial role in forming ISIS, there is plenty of internal motivation from within islam to account for its growth, as well.  And yet it is known that jihadis abuse hardcore drugs at an astonishing rate and also have voracious appetites for porn and other immoral media.

I tried to find the original transcript of the interview in English but could not.  Either the newspaper butchered Kiril’s intent or he was all over the map, and not really putting forth a cohesive point other than “West = bad.”  He almost seemed to be saying “the enemy of my enemy is my friend,” in which case, he may very much live to regret that kind of thinking.  Islam is no one’s friend but islam’s.  And there are vast swaths of Russia that islam claims as their own.

I’ve often found Orthodox to be confused thinkers. Perhaps this is one more instance.  They do not possess the extremely highly developed reason possessed by the Church through Scholasticism and other theological schools.  Being an inseparable ward of the state also does not help foster theological or moral continuity.  How many communists remain within the Russian Orthodox Church?

Ah, well…….they do have a gorgeous liturgy.

One more in a much more simple setting. I really like the beginning.

What is the significance of the three and two candles?  Beautiful.

Hey prots looks like the Mass of All Ages doesn’t it?  How is it all the ancient Christian Churches believe all the same things about the Eucharist, Sacraments, efficacy of good works, etc?  Johnny come lately’s, your founders just made up a bunch of crap!

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