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Komitas – Lord have mercy, sung in the ancient Church of the Holy Cross on Akdamar Island by a woman of substantial talent. This below, and “Gather us in” or “On eagle’s wings” aren’t in the same liturgical universe:
Too bad the other women don’t have their heads covered! Good for the singer.
About the church, it is actually a 10th century cathedral. Of course, we are at present marking the 100th anniversary of the Armenian genocide. This cathedral was a major seat of the Armenian Orthodox Church. Quite controversially, after being allowed to deteriorate badly for decades, the Turkish government set aside a small amount of money and turned the former cathedral into a museum.
A brief quote on that history:
In 1915, during the Armenian Genocide, the monks of Aght’amar were massacred, the church looted, and the monastic buildings destroyed.
I guess we know why the former cathedral looks so barren. I wonder how much incredible, irreplaceable art from two millenia ago! was destroyed in the process. And now the Turks try to pretend to be nicey nice with the Armenians (now that they are almost all gone or dead) by spending a whole $1 million on a forced “restoration” and conversion of the cathedral into a museum the Armenians didn’t want!
So, this beautiful act of prayer, and the hymn sung, at that place, and at this time, by an Armenian woman…….it is absolutely pregnant with meaning. And boy does she knock it out of the park. The Armenians are some of the most ancient Christians it is possible to find. I pray for their return to unity with the See of Peter.
h/t JP Sonnen
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Another excerpt from Dom Prosper Gueranger, and this one is most interesting. It is from the Greek Menaea for Pope St. Leo the Great, written, according to Dom Gueranger, many centuries before the Great Schism of 1054. The words from this hymn certainly do seem to establish a strong
belief in Papal primacy. They also highlight how the early Church viewed doctrinal orthodoxy/purity/correctness as one of the most vital characteristics of a bishop, especially the Sovereign Pontiff. No bonus points for saying Catholic things 99% of the time……they are demanded 100% of the time. See what you think below:
O happy Pontiff! Glorious Leo, thou hast been made companion of the faithful priests and martyrs; for thou was t most invincible in battle, and immovable as a tower and fortress of religion. Thou dist proclaim, with most prefect orthodoxy and wisdom, the unspeakable generation of Christ.
O ruler of orthodoxy, teacher of religion and holiness, light of the whole earth, divinely inspired glory of true believers, wise Leo! Thou enlightenest all men by thy teachings, O harp of the Holy Ghost!
Heir of the See of Peter, the Prince of the Apostles, thou didst preside over the Church: thou hadst his spirit and wast inflamed with zeal for the Faith.
Beaming with a most bright light, thou, O holy Leo, didst admirably preach the ineffable and divine Incarnation, teaching the two natures, and the two wills of the Incarnate God.
Resplendent with the knowledge of divine truths, thou didst scatter on all sides the brightness of orthodoxy, and dispel the darkness of heresy. Departing this life, thou, O blessed one! now dwellest in the light that knows no setting.
O inspired minister of God’s mysteries, thou didst admirably preach that Christ is the Only Son and Lord, begotten of the Father before all ages, born for us of the Virgin, and dwelling on earth like unto us.
Seated with glory upon the throne of the pontificate, thou didst stop the mouths of lions, and madest to shine upon they flock the light of the knowledge of God, by proclaiming the divine dogma of the adorable Trinity. Therefore hast thou been glorified as a holy Pontiff initiated in the Grace of God.
Thou, as a dazzling sun, didst rise in the West and wisely dispel the error of Eutyches, who mingled and confused the two natures, and that of Nestorius, who divided tehm as though they were tow Persons. Thou taughtest us to adore one Christ in two natures, inseparably, unchangeably, unconfusedly, united.
Inspired of God, thou didst appear to the people of God as another Moses, showing them the Commandments of religion written, as it were, on tables…….
It goes on for some time with such effusive praise. I’d say several of the bits highlighted above, if not conclusive, argue very strongly for an acceptance of the Papal primacy by the Greek Church, and on terms that are pretty close to what the Church believes. As such, it seems pretty damning evidence that, as Dom Gueranger claimed, it was not the Latin Church, but the Greek Church which changed its belief regarding the Primacy of the See of Peter.
“Presiding over the Church” could be a statement open to some interpretation, but it would seem difficult to conflate that with the mere “first among equals” approach the Eastern Orthodox have argued for the past 1000 years. Presiding seems to imply more than a mere “first in honors” position that would leave the Sovereign Pontiff an equal with the other ancient sees, at least, if not the thousands of bishops around the world. Presiding strongly implies governing, but, perhaps the translation is debatable.
What of the claim that he was inspired of God? Is that significant? I guess any Saint or holy bishop could be inspired of God, but again, there is a reference to such a universal teaching and governing office (that of Moses, the clear leader of the Jewish nation and religion) that this seems a pretty strong endorsement of Papal primacy. Moses was the leader of his Church, and claiming that Leo was “another Moses” suggests powerfully to me that he was viewed as the sole leader of the Universal Church, heir to the office Moses first undertook.
What say you?
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Whatever one may think of ecumenism/interreligious dialogue in general, probably my greatest problem with the way it has been conducted over the past 50 years is that it has been built on a web of distortions and even outright misrepresentations. We see this in many of the ongoing dialogues with the various sects and other religions, but it has been most marked of late with respect to islam. We are told how peaceful and wonderful islam is, the great spiritual fruit it provides to its followers, in spite of their explicit rejection of Jesus Christ as 2nd Person of the Trinity, the claim is even made that by some that muslims need not convert! Atrocities are glossed over as the Church constantly apologizes for the mote in its own eye, while ignoring the beam in its neighbor islam.
Well, Pope Francis interjected some badly needed honesty in this dialogue with islam when he accurately termed the Turkish mass pogroms against Armenian Christians, many Catholics, that took place a century ago a genocide, which it certainly was. Turkey, as a result, has recalled its ambassador to the Holy See. Boo-hoo:
Speaking at a Sunday Mass in St. Peter’s Basilica in the Vatican to mark 100 years since the Armenian killings, the pope spoke of the massacres in the context of the contemporary persecution of Christians in the Muslim world—a subject that has become an increasingly prominent and urgent theme in Pope Francis’ public statements.
Armenians say that as many as 1.5 million Armenians were systematically killed during World War I in today’s eastern Turkey, which was then part of the Ottoman Empire.
Many countries officially recognize the killings as genocide. But Turkey contests Armenian claims about the scale of losses; it argues that hundreds of thousands actually died in warfare and famine, and that many Turks were also killed by Armenians. Turkey argues that the question of genocide should be left to historians rather than politicians. [The historians have answered the question. It was a genocide, aided and abetted by Imperial German staff officers serving with the Ottoman Empire during WWI]
Pope Francis said Sunday that “it is necessary, and indeed a duty” to “recall the centenary of that tragic event, that immense and senseless slaughter whose cruelty your forbears had to endure…Concealing or denying evil is like allowing a wound to keep bleeding without bandaging it.”
A little more background:
The evidence is overwhelming that the Ottoman Turks systematically organized the deliberate deaths of up to 1.5 million Armenians. Government documents, photos, testimony from survivors prove that Turkey wished to rid itself of its Christian minorities, largely because they believed that the Armenians and others were siding with Russia against Turkey in World War I. They also needed a convenient scapegoat for the losses suffered on the battlefield.
The greatest number of killings occurred on horrific death marches of hundreds of miles where the Turks drove women, children, and old people (most of the young men had already been massacred) into the Syrian desert. There was no food or water given to the victims along the way — again, by design.
Few recognized historians take Turkey’s side — that the deaths were regrettable but not part of an organized effort to kill all Armenians. And Turkey is fanatical about the subject. After Pope Francis identified the Armenian massacres as genocide, Turkey angrily recalled its ambassador to the Vatican.
In the service of geopolitical interests, the Obama administration in 2010 blocked an effort by the House of Representatives to label the Armenian pogroms a genocide. Turkey threatened dramatic sanctions against the US if the effort were approved.
The genocides (for there was more than one) conducted against Christians in what is now Turkey were remarkably successful. In 1914 about 15% of the population of Turkey was Christian, today that number is 0.1%. Many describe the campaigns against the highly educated and successful Greek Orthodox of the far western regions of Turkey of the early 1920s as something akin to a genocide, as the Greek Christian was driven from the land and many died. This despite the fact that there had been Christians in Turkey since the 1st century. Today, one of Christianity’s most ancient ancestral homes, places where St. Paul evangelized to great success, are now totally denuded of any Christian presence.
Post-conciliar ecumenism/inter-religious dialogue is primarily a worldly effort designed to achieve worldly aims. It is not about saving souls, or arriving at the “truth,” which has been revealed through the Church, anyways. It is about satisfying the demands of secular shibboleths and advancing a certain kumbayah notion of the world. As such, it has been surrounded by a bodyguard of lies since its inception. Lies about things like the Armenian genocide, but that’s just one example out of far too many to list. It’s not that I am demanding that past atrocities all be listed in detail, but what I am saying is that “dialogue” that fails to take into account the true nature of various sects and religions as well as their recent history (up to an including today) is a dialogue based on a fantasy and is really advocacy for a certain indifferentist end, and not a true spirit working in the Church and people of faith to arrive at some happy common ground. Could any work be blessed by God that finds lies and the ignoring of uncomfortable truths such an essential part of its modus operandi?
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Get off your high horse, already, you Christofascist crusaders. Our communist muslim president – representing perhaps the most antithetical mixture possible – has told us again how disappointed he is with Christians, who are not at all like his dear, peaceable muslim co-religionists. And at his Easter Breakfast, no less:
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Great talk by Michael Davies below, a man who understood the critical need for unity among all faithful Catholics in the effort to reclaim our Church. Subtitle to the talk is: “The duties of a Catholic to Christ the King in a secular state. How to use the religious liberty that has been accorded to you to uphold the Kingdom of Christ.” Thanks to Sensus Fidelium for uploading this video. Please support Sensus Fidelium monetarily if you find these videos valuable and you have the means. Thank you.
I have not finished listening to the video but over halfway in there is some really good, solid catechesis here on a subject we don’t often hear enough about. Such a shame Mr. Davies passed away so suddenly and at a relatively young age, he was a great servant of the Church.
I love listening to Michael Davies talk. He goes a bit fast at times, but he has such a wonderful dry sense of humor.
Davies also has a booklet on essentially the same topic as above. You can order that here.
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Sheesh. Our Dear Leader isn’t trying to even hide it anymore. A former Iranian official who defected during ongoing negotiations in Switzerland has said that the United States is basically arguing in favor of Iran’s nuclear ambitions with reluctant Europeans in the 6 party talks. Obama, of course, created a false crisis with respect to the negotiations by insisting on an end date which is imminent. Thus, he apparently feels pressure to reach a deal, any deal, before the timeline expires. Because no one has ever heard of diplomatic negotiations extending beyond the planned timeframe, no, never:
In his television interview, Mr Mottaghi also gave succour to western critics of the proposed nuclear deal, which has seen the White House pursue a more conciliatory line with Tehran than some of America’s European allies in the negotiating team, comprising the five permanent members of the UN security council and Germany.
“The US negotiating team are mainly there to speak on Iran’s behalf with other members of the 5+1 countries and convince them of a deal,” he said.
So where does “arguing in favor of a muslim terror state acquiring nuclear weapons” fit into Obama’s oath of office to defend the United States against all enemies foreign and domestic?
I know a lot of readers have huge problems with US foreign policy in the Mideast over the past several decades, with constant warfighting and silly notions of building democracy among medieval tribesmen who don’t even possess the fundamental approach to human nature that “democracy” pre-supposes, but I have to say that Iran obtaining nuclear devices – if they don’t have them, already – could represent an existential threat to essentially any nation in the world, including this one. Any normal logic regarding deterrence or how nuclear weapons tend to affect the behavior of nation states (they tend to make them more cautious) can be thrown out the window with Iran, the number one exporter of terror over the past 35 years and a nation that has shown it is quite willing to suffer huge losses in the name of advancing their religious worldview. Even more, Iran’s leaders are possessed of a messianic vision that tells them they can bring about their glorious islamic “parousia” by instigating a fight to the death with the infidel West. At the very least, Obama’s program of appeasement and tacit permission for Iran to obtain nuclear devices will, with grim certainty, set off a Mideast arms race and we will see at least Saudi Arabia if not a number of other states develop nuclear capabilities one way or another.
If the Obama Administration really is essentially Iran’s point of view with France and other European participants in the talk, we see once again how the left constantly projects their own immoral behavior onto their ideological opponents. You may recall that a few weeks ago, a number of Republican senators sent a letter to Iran’s president informing him that the senate had to approve all treaties, and that administrations change, the point being that a future administration may chuck any agreement reached with Obama that is harmful to US interests. Democrats and their media shills claimed such a letter was treason!, treason with a capital T, because…..well, because it made Obama look foolish. Which is true, he is monumentally foolish. But now we see that Obama is taking the side of a country that begins every day with regular chants of “Death to America” and which is directly responsible for the loss of hundreds of American lives in recent decades. We are also basically serving as Iran’s tactical air force in the battle against ISIS, which threatens shia Iran more than it really poses a direct threat to the US. But it’s the Republicans who are traitors. I see.
I don’t know if the disastrous conduct of these negotiations by Obama is due to his basic deference to islam or if it’s just because he’s an equally progressive ninny. After all, Iran has killed a lot more sunni muslims in recent decades than they have Christians or Jews. So I don’t quite get the angle, other than the fact that he wants a deal to try to pretend his foreign policy has not been a complete, abject failure.
Then again, some men just like to watch the world burn.
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I’m sure I’ll attract the ire of at least one paid agent of Obama’s perpetual campaign organization OFA, but the allegations below are absolutely devastating, and so revealing. I’m sorry, what else does this guy have to do before people will accept that he is either a practicing muslim, or has the most sympathetic view possible?
Lots of claims below. Most of which are highly disturbing:
According to Nigeria’s President Goodluck Jonathan, more than 13,000 people have been killed in the Boko Haram insurgency since 2009. Some estimates put the carnage as high as 17,000 deaths.
Between July 2013 and June 2014 alone, an estimated 7,000 people died in incidents related to the insurgency. Boko Haram – which means “Western education is forbidden” – recently pledged allegiance to ISIS.……
…..Clearly, a more serious response than #BringBackOurGirls was needed to combat the growing menace – but the United States all but abandoned their African ally. Not only did the Obama Regime refused to sell Nigeria the arms it needed to fight Boko Haram, it blocked other Western allies from helping them, too.
Back in January, the Jerusalem Post reported that Obama refused to allow “the resale of US-made military helicopters by Israel to the Nigerian government for its fight against Boko Haram last summer.”
Via James Simpson of AIM:
The administration also denied Nigeria intelligence on Boko Haram from drones operating in the area. While Boko Haram was kidnapping school girls, the U.S. cut petroleum purchases from Nigeria to zero, plunging the nation’s economy into turmoil and raising concerns about its ability to fund its battle against the terrorists. Nigeria responded by cancelling a military training agreement between the two countries.
What do you suppose was behind the Obama Regime’s abject refusal to help this ally fight these terrorists?
Would you believe that there’s a presidential election coming up in Nigeria, and Obama’s favored Muslim candidate is in a tight race against the Christian President Goodluck Jonathan?
And would you further believe that a political consulting group founded by Obama confidante David Axelrod is assisting that candidate – Retired Gen. Muhammadu Buhari – who hails from Muslim-dominated northern Nigeria from whence Boko Haram was spawned?
Thanks to the lack of cooperation and assistance from the United States, the Jonathan government has been failing miserably at beating back the terrorist scourge, with the president looking weak and ineffectual. [Now there may be some valid reasons to be careful in arming the Nigerian government, such as concern over corruption and fears the weapons may simply fall into the hands of the muslims through some treachery. However, there are certainly loyal Christian/Catholic militias that could be supported. There is more below that bears on all this.]
Desperate, the government finally turned to Russia, China and the black market to obtain the much needed arms……
….According to an anti-Buhari Nigerian blogger writing in the Western Post:
In the last year, Nigeria sought aid from the White House for many initiatives, including the fight against Boko Haram.
The Obama administration refused to do anything but pay lip service to Nigeria’s requests. However, it used public and private channels to internationally magnify every failure Nigeria’s government experienced.
In the last year, since the involvement of Axelrod’s firm, relations between the two nations have significantly deteriorated, with the US refusing to sell arms to Nigeria, a significant reduction in the purchase of Nigeria’s oil, and the cancellation of a military training agreement between Nigeria and the USA. [The oil could be due to the growth of fracking, now under threat due to the Saudi’s flooding the market. But cancelling regular training that is always ongoing between the US and various relatively friendly governments, and even more, denying intelligence to the Nigerian government of Boko Haram activities, including feeds from UAVs and satellites, indicates something more than just concern over arms diversions. To me it clearly shows an agenda at work, an attempt to deeply meddle in the interior affairs of a relatively friendly government, and to show favoritism to the muslim candidate]
In turn, the Buhari-led Nigerian opposition used the U.S. government’s position as validation for their claim that the Nigerian government was a failure. [And so I have to wonder how many claims we’ve heard of terrible corruption and incompetence we’ve heard of the Nigerian government are really true, or whether this is all just White House/leftist media spin to insure Obama gets the outcome he wants, a muslim government in a majority-Christian (and mostly Catholic) nation?]
To top it off, Simpson reports that Secretary of State John Kerry “made a mockery of the administration’s pretext by hinting in January meetings with both Jonathan and Buhari that the Obama administration might allow weapon sales after the election.”
If the U.S. was so concerned about human rights violations, how could a mere election change that? Given the perception that Buhari has Obama’s implicit support, this sends an unmistakable message.
The administration also rationalized its decision to cut purchases of Nigerian oil by claiming that output from domestic oil fracking has reduced America’s dependence on foreign oil. But that begs the question: why have U.S. oil imports from other nations increased at the same time? Nigeria was formerly among America’s top five oil supplying countries, and America its largest customer. Nigeria relies on oil revenues for 70 percent of its budget. America’s decision to look elsewhere has been catastrophic for Nigeria’s economy. [Hmmm…….not entirely sure about that. There is a tendency to want to purchase from Western Hemisphere sources. Usually the top five include Canada, Mexico, and Brazil. Still, even without the oil allegation, these are extremely damning revelations for Obama]
After turning to Russia and China to obtain arms, Nigeria was able to fight aggressively and on the offensive against Boko Haram.
They have retaken 40 towns previously occupied by the group and killed at least 500 of the terrorists.
At least 13,000 civilians dead in Nigeria since 2009 and the US looks the other way because Obama wants to put a progressive Muslim in power.
This article discusses this further Obama scandal in detail. It is amazing the degree to which we are kept in the dark by the leftist Obama-apologist media. Enormous scandals of huge international significance are consigned to the memory hole in order to protect Obama and serve his agenda. If this story is even only true in part, it should be an incredible scandal. Not that we need another one with this stuttering cluster@$%! of a malignant muslim traitor.
If this Republic fails, or has already, the “watchdog” media bears an enormous share of the blame, and perhaps should be considered as the formal, direct cause. People have elected amoral monsters like Obama because the media carefully sells a completely false image. Then again, maybe 50%+1 of people no longer even care about such things. It’s very tempting to just stand back and watch the collapse.
And the saddest thing is, almost certainly well over half the bishops and priests of this country voted for this guy twice and are still totally on board with him! As always, for the progressive, leftism is the real religion and anything else is just a sidelight.
Posted by Tantumblogo in Basics, Dallas Diocese, disaster, Ecumenism, error, foolishness, General Catholic, persecution, sadness, scandals, secularism, self-serving, sickness, Society.
Thanks to MFG for the link.
An atrocious Dallas Morning News article below (but that’s no surprise) reports on a recent Irving City Council decision to back a proposed state law to never allow decisions from “foreign” or sharia law courts to influence or form any basis in jurisprudence in the State of Texas. This occurred as a result of the standing up of the first “optional” (until it’s not) sharia court in Irving recently. Irving, reportedly, is nearly 1/5 muslim (though, not where I live – it’s more like 70% Hispanic where I live). I add many comments below, and will try to address MFG’s question as to whether this kind of law could have any effect on canon law courts (the short answer is……unlikely for a very long time):
The intense national spotlight on Islam has shifted to Irving, where Mayor Beth Van Duyne has accused mosque leaders of creating separate laws for Muslims and the City Council voted Thursday to endorse a state bill that Muslims say targets their faith. [Are canon law courts similar to sharia, and thus under similar “threat?” I would say, no. While the culture is becoming increasingly anti-Christian and there will be many forms of persecution, canon law is very different from sharia. Sharia is a holistic system of legalisms that apply from the islamic state down to the individual, insisting that ALL law be dictated by its statutes. Church canon law is very different and never really competed with the secular state in its proper sphere. That is not the case with sharia, the goal in sharia always and everywhere is to become the SOLE means of jurisprudence in all spheres. In the islamic world, there is no distinction between the secular and the religious. Everything is subsumed into islam and sharia. That is how most radical muslim states operate today. And the danger is that certain courts in Canada and even a few in the US have started to incorporate legal findings from sharia courts into secular court decisions. That is what the state law here in Texas, in Oklahoma, and other localities seeks to block, that islamic influence on American courts. So, sharia is really a very different entity that Church canon law courts, it is a different system, it has different aims, and I think, even today, even given the rising persecution, that is still generally quite understood. Plus, Catholics don’t often kill others to advance their religion, or use babies to slaughter Jews, or whatever. But……should the persecution continue to advance, it is not impossible that even Church canon law courts could come under fire, but that is probably some distance in the future (if ever), and this law won’t have any immediate or even medium term effect on the Church.]
The dispute has made Van Duyne a hero among a fringe movement that believes Muslims — a tiny fraction of the U.S. population — are plotting to take over American culture and courts. [All we must do is look to France, the Netherlands, the UK, and many other European countries to see what happens when muslims dominate a given area. Sharia is imposed, secular authority breaks down, whole regions become effective “no-go zones” for the state authority, and you have little sharia-muslim enclaves within western nations, where outsiders are ruthlessly attacked if they do not conform to sharia, especially women. So give me a break that this is only the concern of a “fringe movement,” Dallas Morning News, and thank you for reminding me why I ended my subscription years ago]
“It fuels anti-Islamic hysteria,” said Zia Sheikh, imam at the Islamic Center of Irving. “Her whole point was to rile up her supporters. … The problem is we become the whipping boys.” [In which Western countries is public flogging still practiced? In how many islamic countries is it currently practiced? Why, Riyadh has an infamous public square where such floggings occur. Tickets are sold! So maybe not the best metaphor. Or maybe a Freudian slip.]
The mayor stands by her statements, including an interview with former Fox News host Glenn Beck last month, when she said Sheikh and other imams were “bypassing American courts” by offering to mediate disputes among their worshippers according to an Islamic code called Shariah.
The mediation is advertised as voluntary, nonbinding and in harmony with the law. [Until such a time as a given area’s muslims become numerous enough, and radical enough, to insist on sharia being applied as the dominant form of government. Sharia is not just about adjudicating failed muslim marriages, it is, as I said, the legal system of the muslim ummah, which dominates and informs everything from civil codes to criminal law. Which gets us back to the public floggings and stonings, all called for by sharia.]
But it has led Van Duyne to back a bill by state Rep. Jeff Leach, R-Plano, that would forbid judges from using foreign law in their rulings……
…….Muslims in hijabs, burqas and business suits packed City Hall on Thursday, voicing protests before the council endorsed the bill in a 5-4 vote……. [probably not the best display to reassure concerned citizens. Now, I have no problem with modest dress, of course, but the fact of the matter is, there are whole swaths of Europe, Canada, and even these United States today where women – whether muslim or not – have to wear at least the hijab if not the burqa if they are not to be assaulted or even attacked. And that is how it starts! Not how it finishes.]
……“You will find there is starting to be an encroachment and a movement to chip away at the ability of judges to say no to certain foreign laws.”…… [As I said, aspects of sharia have already been incorporated into legal decisions in Western countries, especially in Canada and the UK, where adherence to sharia has been used as a mitigating factor to let perpetrators of heinous crimes (spousal abuse, child rape, etc) off the hook because such was viewed as acceptable under sharia]
…..“Shariah law … it’s the whole way of life to a certain religion,” Berman warned a House committee as he pitched his bill that year. “It’s starting in Europe because of a large population of Middle Easterners … and it could spread through the United States.” [It already has. Sections of Detroit]
I’m out of time, but never forget the muslim practice of taqqiyah, or “holy lying,” which is deliberate falsehoods made “moral” if they are made to fool the infidel and serve to advance islam. The koran or haddith, I don’t remember, also guides muslims to use every means possible to advance islam, to gain every right possible while a minority, to gradually chip away, until they gain an ascendancy in a given area and then they are commanded to impose sharia, which they almost invariably do.
So this is not the fevered imaginations of some anti-muslim bigots, this is how islam operates and has operated for 1400 years.
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In a move that surprised absolutely no one, the worldly secularist sect called The Presbyterian Church (USA) has chucked 2000 years of Scripture and Tradition (which has been their tradition for 500 years) and decided that two people of the same sex pretending to marry each other is fully equivalent to male-female marriage and worthy of their support:
The Presbyterian Church (U.S.A.) has expanded its definition of marriage to include a “commitment between two people,” recognizing gay marriage as Christian in the church constitution after decades of debate over same-sex relationships.
The redefinition was endorsed last year by the church General Assembly, or top legislative body, but required approval from a majority of the Louisville, Kentucky-based denomination’s 171 regional districts, or presbyteries. The critical 86th “yes” vote came Tuesday night from the Presbytery of the Palisades in New Jersey……..
……Last year, Presbyterians allowed ministers to preside at gay weddings if local church leaders approved in the states where same-sex unions were legally recognized. The new wording for the church Book of Order extends that authorization to every congregation and reads, “Marriage involves a unique commitment between two people, traditionally a man and a woman, to love and support each other for the rest of their lives.”
The amendment includes a provision that no clergy would be compelled to preside at a gay marriage or host such a ceremony on church property. [That won’t last five minutes. Give me a break, this isn’t even a fig leaf of a fig leaf. Wait until one minister refuses and then see what happens]
….Between 2011, when the Presbyterians authorized gay ordination, and 2013, the latest year for which figures are available, 428 of the denomination’s churches left for more conservative denominations or dissolved, though some theological conservatives have remained as they decide how to move forward. The losses helped pave the way for approval of gay marriage, since many opponents had left the church…. [Yes, let’s speak of losses. In 1965 there were 4.5 million presbyterians in the US. US population was 200 million. In 1983, when US population was about 260 million, the presbyterians had fallen to 3.1 million. Today, they are down to 1.75 million, and the steepest declines they have seen in over 30 years have occurred in the past 2 years as the sect has been flirting with formal acceptance of the gravest perversion. So, presbyterian membership has collapsed over 60% since 1965 and 45% since 1983. Every single other “mainline” sect, which have all followed the same trend in accepting the prevailing modernist/progressive have experienced similar decline]
I’m not surprised the Presbyterians have done this one bit. For decades, they and the other mainline sects – absent a vocal if small minority – have been engaged in a headlong rush towards embrace of the most sordid and un-Christian cultural trends, becoming little more than constantly diminishing left-wing NGOs with a smattering of vague feel-good spirituality. What I still cannot fully comprehend, however, is that in spite of volumes and volumes of evidence showing clearly that the mainline sects are committing suicide through this embrace of modernism/progressivism, there are still scads of leaders in the Church who want to do the same. How blind do you have to be to say…..hey, let’s commit suicide like the episcopalians! But nothing blinds like ideology, and we certainly seem to have a surfeit of modernist ideologues at present.
Amazing. Nothing is sacred. I guess this is one way to take care of the sects…..just let nature take its course. As for the Church……I shall pray.
Posted by Tantumblogo in Basics, disaster, Domestic Church, Ecumenism, episcopate, error, family, foolishness, General Catholic, horror, sadness, scandals, self-serving, Society.
So says Steven Baskerville in a retty good post below that re-hashes many points made on this blog in the past regarding the ongoing destruction of marriage, the most recent (but not final) attempt to trivialize marriage down to nothing but a convenient tax break (how long will that last?) in so-called “gay marriage,” and the failing efforts to resist this steady advance of radical family deconstructionism. The author notes that even conservative Catholics writing in First Things still get the big picture wrong, by pretending that the destruction of marriage was more or less sealed by mass contraception use, errors asserting the pleasure/unitive aspect of marriage above the procreative, and no-fault divorce. Until Catholics start to oppose those evils and reject them in their own lives, the destruction of marriage will continue apace (up to an including groups and animals, and I am not kidding). Some excerpts:
…..Same-sex “marriage” is symptomatic of a much larger and more ambitious agenda of determined and defiant sexual liberation being pushed by radical political ideologues. The destruction of true marriage and the traditional family is not merely a consequence of the radicals’ program; it is its stated purpose. And it will not stop with marriage. Other manifestations of the radicals’ growing power have already demonstrated their eagerness to incarcerate their opponents……
….Same-sex “marriage” and the radical agenda of which it is but a small part cannot be stopped on the cheap. [Meaning, as a stand-alone evil to oppose. This attack on marriage is part of a broader assault going back literally centuries and is tied into the fundamental destruction of Christendom which began in 1517. Until the Church again begins to oppose evils like divorce and contraception with a true effort, marriage will only continue to be eviscerated] We must accept and act upon some unpleasant but obvious truths—truths that may cost us something. And they are precisely the ones [the First Things article] appears determined not simply to avoid but to deliberately obfuscate.
First, same-sex “marriage” and homosexuals did not kill marriage; they are merely picking over the carcass. Same-sex “marriage” is the direct result of precisely the divorce and cohabitation epidemics that [the First Things article] tells us are less important. These brought the “abolition of marriage” and devalued it to the point that it became attractive to some homosexuals. Others have long warned that Christian leaders are shockingly silent on these matters, and their warnings now stand vindicated. Same-sex “marriage” is the logical result. [Well, I don’t expect the very sects that normalized divorce from the start (or were founded based on acceptance of divorce!) to get it, but I do expect the Catholic Church to, and yet, as this writer notes, the Church has been “shockingly silent” on this point for decades, the occasional papal statements notwithstanding]
……..Same-sex “marriage” concerns tiny numbers. By contrast, divorce and illegitimacy devastate the lives of tens of millions and constitute the engine driving the welfare system that is bankrupting entire societies……. [Agree in principle, but sodo-marriage involves such a tremendous evil and is such a complete inversion of the meaning of marriage that it will have impact incalculably larger than the bare numbers involved]
……Under the gargantuan and repressive divorce gestapo, legally unimpeachable citizens are separated forcibly and permanently from their children, evicted from their homes, plundered for everything they possess, and incarcerated without trial for such transgressions as unauthorized meetings with their own children. Not only do they lose their jobs; they are then summarily jailed for having inadequate income. They are even incarcerated for criticizing government officials.
This has been going on for years, during which Christian leaders have been silent. It is hardly surprising that similar (but so far much less serious) authoritarian measures are now being meted out to Christians. [for opposing sodo-marriage] A glance at the sexual revolutionaries’ other targets reveals that it can and will become much worse……..
…….Cheap compassion for the poor without attention to their sexual morality merely exacerbates the problem. Earlier generations of Christians did not flinch from this obvious, irrefutable, and necessary principle. But who preaches against adultery or fornication now?
Having neglected these age-old truths until the family crisis attains the absurdity of same-sex “marriage,” we now want to draw a line in the sand just short of the latest, most absurd manifestation and hope we can extricate ourselves without serious sacrifice. But it does not work that way. [That is a brilliant paragraph. It really condenses the mass failure to oppose all these evils over the past 5 decades down to a nutshell]
……..Current bravado about pastors “going to jail” to defend marriage[from sodo-marriage]is nothing like the number that would face summary incarceration once they began to threaten the ill-gotten gains of the divorce industry by intervening to defend spouses and parents against its injustices and depredations. This is why the subject is simply off-limits for a Christian leadership that refuses to rock the boat and prefers the media spotlight. [Where is Cardinal Dolan when you need him?]
Those were merely some excerpts from a fairly long piece (probably 1800-2000 words). But, it’s very good, you should read the entire thing, even if it is not strictly from a Catholic perspective.
I really haven’t much more to say. The former Christendom has been attacking marriage for 500 years in some areas, and with increasing vigor and fervor for 220 years since leftism was first really unmasked and unleashed in the French Revolution. The Left seeks absolute power for all time, the ‘boot stamping a human face forever” per Orwell. The family is the largest impediment to that end. So, they have waged war on the family for 200 years, and with amazing success. However, final and total destruction of the family – if that is even possible – will not get them their end (for any length of time), what it will get all of us is a civilizational collapse that will make the Fall of the Roman Empire look like high Victorian quietude.
But the broader issue is the surrender the Church has made on these matters since the late 50s/early 60s. I don’t care what sects are doing, they were founded in error and will remain there, but the Church is supposed to be the Light of the World, but for too long the shade has been drawn and the light dimmed to a barely discernible glow. The calamities afflicting marriage are just one of the more visible aspects of that mass shirking of duty. Unfortunately, there is no fix of any kind to deal with that failure of duty – it took decades, even centuries, to get to the point of collapse, and it will take about that long (barring some great miracle) to return from it.
I’ll add a bit more – even in traditional Catholic communities, the scandal of divorce remains. That is one particular evil that even among these often most fervent of Catholics still seems to occasionally raise its ugly head. I was recently brought into a particularly sad and sordid situation in that regard, which perhaps doesn’t quite “count” since one of the parties has totally fallen away from the Faith over the course of a few months. That makes the second individual I’ve known that came out of a pretty messed up background to convert to a strong, even traditional Catholicism in the past year to fall away. Satan never lets up, so never let your guard down. Tragedies like divorce can afflict any of us – or those close to us – if we are not fervent in prayer/piety and blessed by God.