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Flightline Friday: Charlie Duke Took Country Music to the Moon July 19, 2019

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During these celebrations of the 50th anniversary of the Apollo 11 flight, here’s a quick post about the man who was the CAPCOM during the famous landing of Lunar Module #5 “Eagle” at Tranquilty Base, Apollo 16 LMP Charlie Duke.  Charlie Duke was always one of the most affable and likable of astronauts, and he still is today.  He is a convicted protestant, but has some very interesting things to say about evolution in the final video.  I love what he wore to the 50th anniversary gala of the Apollo 11 landings at the Reagan Library two nights ago:

Captain Duke lives in the New Braunfels area.  Love the cumberbund and tie.

Robert Earl Keen and Randy Rogers recorded this song about Charlie Duke, which is a true story, as is the bit from Merle Haggard and Dolly Parton at the end. That was actually part of a tape that Charlie Duke took with him on the Apollo 16 flight, which consisted of music recorded by huge country artists specifically for Duke on that flight.  Others that contributed were Buck Owens, Porter Waggoner, and Jerry Reed:
Here’s a recent interview with Charlie, see his comments about evolution at 4:20.  He is quite right in noting that evolution is taught as a religion, but I disagree a bit that there is no ultimate proof of God.  I believe the great Doctors of the Church have sufficiently established that proof.  In fact, I would argue there is much, much more evidence in favor of both the existence of God and the Biblical creation story, than there is of Darwin’s deliberately anti-Christian conception of evolution of the species. Nevertheless, it’s good to hear:
Dominus vobiscum!

SSPX to Build Huge New Parish in St. Mary’s, Kansas July 14, 2019

Posted by Tantumblogo in Art and Architecture, awesomeness, Christendom, General Catholic, Glory, Grace, history, Latin Mass, Liturgy, Restoration, SSPX, Tradition.
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Two things immediately come to mind after viewing this video on Rorate Caeli – 1. I’ll have to check this place out, I’ve never been to St. Mary’s, and 2., St. Mary’s is way, way bigger than Mater Dei.  6 Masses a day with one in a gymnasium seating what looks like close to 600 people, the video sort of vaguely mentions 4000 people attending St. Mary’s.  I don’t know if that means every Sunday, but with Mater Dei averaging about 1500 on a Sunday St. Mary’s is much larger.  And, I am not surprised, it is in a sense SSPX-town USA, and has been around 13 or 31  years longer than the FSSP parish in the Dallas Diocese.  I had long suspected that if there was a TLM parish with higher attendance on Sunday than Mater Dei, it would be St. Mary’s.

Well, God bless them, and may He bless this work. Whatever one thinks of the SSPX – and I for one am very grateful for Archbishop Lefebvre and the priestly society he started and maintained, since without it the TLM and the entire traditional practice of the Faith would probably have been expunged from the Church – this is a huge step forward for the entire traditional movement. This is a cathedral-class building being built for the sole use of the Traditional Latin Mass and the traditional practice of the Faith.  It’s a huge undertaking and requires at least $30 million (construction budgets have a tendency to go up as construction advances, but this crew looks like they are really focused on keeping a lid on expenses).  And, I must say, it looks like this new church when built will be architecturally and artistically significant.  I do pray it has outstanding stained glass and other aspects of liturgical art – there is a great deal available on the market these days, with so many ancient and beautiful churches being razed in Europe and parts of the US.

It looks less and less likely that we will have anything similar (certainly not on such a scale) locally.  The funding just isn’t there.  Well, a new church will happen in God’s good time.  If you feel inspired to help bring a substantial new traditional Catholic parish to fruition, you can donate here.

Solemn Vespers of the Dead for the Centenary of the Conclusion of WWI at UD Nov 6 November 5, 2018

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I hope I can attend this tomorrow night.  Solemn Vespers for the Dead in the traditional Rite will be offered Nov 6 on the campus of the University of Dallas at 7:30 pm at the Church of the Incarnation.  All details below:

Check out the generous confession times at the Church of the Incarnation, too – 45 minutes a day or more Mon, Wed, Fri, and Sat.

I heard the Catholic Action for Faith and Family Conference was a big success.  My daughter was there yesterday to sing in the schola for the solemn pontifical low Mass Cardinal Burke offered on Sunday morning.  Many other events over the weekend were sparsely attended because so many other folks were off at the big conference at the Irving convention center.  Bishop Burns was there.  I’ve heard some other good things about Bishop Burns in the last several days on other fronts.  Even though he is closely associated with the sad triad of Wuerl/McCarrick/Farrell he seems cut from a bit different cloth.

But the opening of the diocesan records on priest boy rape is a nothingburger.  It’s all been carefully checked over in advance but there may be a few belated revelations.

All that aside, I have a small but growing pious hope that in Bishop Burns Dallas has finally gotten someone a bit virtuous as bishop.

Flightline Friday: The Awesome A-7 April 13, 2018

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For nearly 40 years, my current house would have been very nearly directly under the flight path for Naval Air Station Dallas and the co-located Vought/LTV plant.  Thus, from 1955 to the early 90s, Vought F-8s and later A-7s would have been in the air most every day, flying over my home (OK, the home didn’t exist for most of that time, but you get the point).  Of course, by the time we moved into that house Navy Dallas was closed and Vought was out of the prime contractor business, no longer building whole airplanes, but that’s how it goes.

At any rate the A-7 was the result of a quickie project to build a replacement for the excellent Douglas A-4 Skyhawk, intending to greatly increase the range/payload capability of US Navy light attack assets.  The project was a hallmark of the US aerospace industry at that time, roughly showcasing an industry at its historic peak, resulting in a program that went from conception to flying hardware in just about 4 years.  Heck, they can’t even get half the specs for a bomb written in 4 years today, let alone those for a whole airplane.  Vought responded to the Navy’s request for a new Light Attack aircraft – the VAL competition – with a modified version of its epochal F-8 Crusader fighter, basically a shortened F-8 with a wing modified to carry heavy payloads.  Vought won that competition, and between December 1964 and early 1967 crafted the A-7A.  This aircraft represented a quantum leap not in speed, because it wasn’t very fast, but in accuracy.  The A-7 was the most accurate tactical bombing platform in US service until the introduction of the F-16 in 1978.  Especially in its Air Force A-7D variant and subsequent US Navy E model copy of the D, the A-7 set radically improved standards in terms of bombing accuracy and range/payload capability, being able to carry the same payload as the A-4 twice as far, or twice the payload the same distance.

Prior to the A-7s arrival in Southeast Asia, virtually every Air Force tactical mission “up north,” whether launched from Thailand or South Vietnam, required air-to-air refueling.  Even the long-legged F-105 required refueling after taking off with a heavy bomb load.  As the first video below indicates, however, the A-7 was able to fly almost all missions over North Vietnam, with a heavy payload of about 9000 pounds of ordinance, pylons, and ammo, without air-to-air refueling.  Now refueling was still pretty frequently done, but more to give the A-7 ridiculous loiter time up North – often over 2 hours – than because of basic necessity.  Navy A-7s, operating much closer to their targets, virtually never required refueling.

The A-7 got its impressive accuracy through a combination of some of the first digital computers, embedded and computerized navigation systems (INS, Doppler, and a very accurate attack radar), and newly developed software algorithms that determined, electronically, a continuously computed impact point (CCIP) means of bombing that was a radical advance for its time.  Later perfected to a much greater degree in the F-16 and F-18, the A-7’s CCIP system improved basic bomb-dropping accuracy by more than a factor of ten, from hundreds of yards down to about 20-30 yards, average mean miss distance.  The second video, an absolute gift of an upload of a film from the old British firm of Elliot, which built some of the very first Heads Up Displays ever made, subsequently installed in the A-7D and E.  Man how some like minded enthusiasts and I would have practically wept for joy to have seen truly excellent footage like this, showing exactly how complex, innovative systems were used tactically, 20 or 30 years ago.  Great stuff.

I’m out for the weekend.  Sorry for lack of posts, it was one of those weeks.  Long live the memory of the great Vought Aircraft and its many excellent products!  Built just about 5 miles from my home, they were in every respect Great Planes:

Now that the “multirole” is cheaper experiment has been tried and quite possibly proven a bad concept – especially when the roles are far too numerous and diverse – perhaps it’s time to return to some lower cost single mission types, for the vital roles like CAS and BAI?  That is to say, Air Force and Navy jocks, just because it doesn’t have an “F” in front of its name doesn’t mean it’s second rate!  Bomber pilots may make history, fighter pilots may make movies, but attack pilots make the boots on the ground very, very happy.

So How Would You Like This For a Pope? April 6, 2018

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The HBO one season uncompleted series “The New Pope” ran a little over a year ago.  It’s got an interesting premise – an ultra-conservative, highly traditional young American gets elected pope (choosing the name Pius XIII) by a confab of corrupt cardinals who think he will be a mere figurehead.  There is much Machiavellian drama in little bits of the series I’ve seen, including numerous attempts by the corruptocrats in the Curia to get some dirt on the new pope and thus compromise and control him.  This culminates in a young woman trying quite hard to seduce the pope, and failing.

At any rate, at some point in the series, the young pope who has held himself aloof not only from the world (refusing to perform public homilies or activities of any kind, or even to show his face) but even from the Curia, finally holds a little meeting with the cardinals, wherein he lays out his new program for the Church.  In this, you could say, he proposes to turn the post-conciliar ethos on its head and set the Church on a radical new, but in many ways a very old, course.

The new pope is very mysterious to all, even, perhaps, to himself.  He posits a return to Tradition and is loved by all the traditional priests, who form a sort of new coterie around the pope displacing parts of the existing bureaucracy.  Most of these priests are quite young and devout, and make a marked contrast to the many corrupt bureaucrats occupying positions of power.  Also dealt with are the infestation of sodomites deep into the heart of the Church.

The pope intends to use his aloofness, the mystery surrounding him, and his youth and physical attractiveness to the benefit of himself and the Church. There are intimations that he is saintly and can work miracles, and intimations that he might be insane.  Or, perhaps, his mental prowess and sanctity cause him to behave in ways that people cannot comprehend?

Note the return of the sede gestatoria, fanon, and a sort of papal tiara, though one not nearly so grand as the old photos indicate.

Not sure if anyone’s seen this series, but late on a Friday afternoon when I have almost no time to post, I thought I’d give at least a little bit of Hollywood’s version of what a hardcore trad pope might mean.  Let me know what you think from this little bit, and anything else  you’ve watched.

Should I say, this guy looks positively dreamy compared to the current occupant?  He sounds perhaps a bit severe and unyielding but after 50+ years of yielding to everyone and everything, perhaps that’s not such a bad thing? I can imagine such a pope as this might wind up like John Paul I.

I don’t think popes ever rode in the sede gestatoria standing like that.

Some Wonderful Bits of Catholic Culture April 4, 2018

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I’ve found a “new” channel on  Youtube called Holy Faith TV.  It’s not that new, it’s been around almost a  year, but it’s new to me.

They’ve got a lot of great traditional Catholic content and some really outstanding history.  How about this incredible color video of Venerable Pius XII:

And here is a video from what was then a mainstream educational film company on the jubilee year of 1950.  Can you imagine Scholastic doing a reverential and respectful video on the Church today?  How much, and how much for the worse, our society has changed since then.

“…….here lies a spiritual power that no godless philosophy may hope to vanquish.”  Take it to heart, leftists!

If an audience featuring Pius XII wasn’t good enough, how about Mass from 1948, offered in St. Peter’s. Sadly it is in black and white:

And here you go, marking the end of glory and the beginning of the auto-demolition of the Faith, a film on the death of Pius XII and coronation of John XXIII, before the fanon and sede gestatoria were scrapped by John’s successor:

 

It’s not all from the 50s.  There is content dating at least back to Saint Pius X. And some of it is more modern commentary, from a wide diversity of sources, from people known well to this blog like Fr. Michael Rodriguez and Bishop Athanasius Schneider, to more esoteric sources.  I can’t say I’ve watched much of the commentary, but as for the historical stuff, I love it.  So much more like that!

Apparently Youtube contains just part of the content, there is a website that ostensibly has more but I haven’t really had time to check it out.  Perhaps you will, and if you do, feel free to share anything of interest you may find!

As always, of course my happiness at finding this channel is not necessarily an endorsement of everything on it.  But I think there is quite a bit good to find there.

And it’s not all strictly Catholic.  There’s actually quite a bit from the Orthodox Church on the channel.  For an example, here is Patriarch Kirill, primate of the Russian Orthodox Church, taking on the cultural masters in a way the last six popes have generally failed to do, with occasional exceptions from John Paul II and Benedict.  In fact, he proclaims a truth that is readily apparent to most believing Christians of any Church, sect, or stripe: godless elites want to destroy Christianity:

Lady Lex and Planes in Remarkable Shape after 76 Years at the Cold, Dark Bottom of the Coral Sea March 6, 2018

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Billionaire Paul Allen, one of the founders of Microsoft, has spent some of his remarkable fortune on deep sea expeditions, finding old wrecks of historical value. Last year his crew found the USS Indianapolis, sunk after delivering the atomic bomb components to Tinian with most of her crew killed by sharks waiting for rescue.  He has also found the massive IJN battleship Musashi.

Just a few days ago, his research team found USS Lexington, CV-2, sunk during the Battle of Coral Sea by the US after she suffered catastrophic explosions from gasoline leaks after being hit by Japanese bombs.  The ship, and especially the aircraft, were in remarkably good shape.  Even the squadron emblems from “Fighting Three” (VF-3) were still plain as day, as were the dark grey/light grey finish, national markings (including the quickly dropped “meatball” in the star that it was feared would be confused with a similar meatball used on Japanese planes as their rising sun motif), kill markings, etc.  Structurally the planes don’t look as bad as one might think after three quarters of a century in the muck and gloom of the deep, deep ocean. In fact they look almost good enough to try to raise and refurbish for museum display.  What a historical coup that would be.

Lexington was part of the “first team” of pre-war, often career sailors and airmen who first held the line, and then very quickly turned the tables on the Japanese before massive American production of men and material made the War in the Pacific all but a foregone conclusion.

Totally non sequitur to this blog but ho boy I hope they post a lot more video and pics of this:

Wrecked Douglas TBD Devastator of Torpedo Three (VT-3)

That Felix the Cat symbol is famous and dates back to the 1920s in naval aviation.  It is still used today by VFA-31 “Tomcatters”

FSSP Given Indult to Offer Pre-“Reform” Easter Rites February 28, 2018

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I am happy about this permission given to the Priestly Fraternity of St. Peter, to offer the Holy Week and Easter rites according to the 1945 Missal, thus not including the revolutionary changes to the Mass introduced by Pius XII. Even though many traditional Catholics have relatively little problem with the changes Pius performed, it must be made clear that it was these “relatively innocuous” changes that established a precedent for what before had always been seen as out of bounds – making inorganic changes to the structure of the Mass.  Without the Holy Week, or “Easter Rite” changes, there would have been no Novus Ordo, no mutilation of the ancient canon, probably in use since apostolic times or shortly thereafter, and its replacement by modernist fabrications, to paraphrase Pope Benedict.

So Francis of Rome has given permission to go back to the old rite before the revolution against the Liturgy began, but not, it seems, to the SSPX.  Which is actually kind of revealing – the fact that they have not been given this permission argues that they are an organic part of the Church, and being governed similar to other organizations, while not being given this permission may have much to do with internal SSPX politics, where there has long existed some division over whether Archbishop Lefebvre made the right call in settling on the 1962 Missal as the standard for the Society, rather than an earlier, unadulterated version.  I have no real opinion on these matters, save that I very much prefer the 1945 Missal and personally use one.  I also like to hear the Good Friday prayer that calls the Jews, even the perfidious ones, to conversion.

More from Angel Queen, via reader TT:

The Priestly Fraternity of St Peter has been granted an indult by the Vatican Commission Ecclesia Dei to use the liturgical books for Holy Week as they were until the [failed] reform of Pius XII (+1958). The indult is granted ad experimentum for three years. [Isn’t it interesting how the revolutionary changes are always unleashed full force and forever, while any kind of return to tradition must always be furtive, experimental, and non-committal?]

The information was published in several of the Fraternity’s US-parish bulletins. Each church of the Fraternity has to request permission from the superiors before taking advantage of the indult. According to rumours, 25 parishes have been granted permission so far.

However, on Good Friday, the prayer for the Jews published by Pope Benedict XVI must be used.

So it’s not an entire return to the ancient order – Benedict’s highly unfortunate capitulation to worldly opinion will still be used.  So, I’ll just have to read the old style prayer myself again.

I do not know if the local FSSP parish has requested permission to use the pre-1958 Mass.

 

Dr. Christopher Dawson on the Fundamental Anti-Christian Religious Nature of the Left February 22, 2018

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Dr. Christopher Dawson was one of the greatest Catholic historians and sociologists of the modern era, a man capable of amassing voluminous knowledge and collating it down to a sensible, digestible whole that relatively educated masses could imbibe.  He wrote a number of books, mostly now held by Ignatius (which makes me wonder the degree to which they have been edited for content uncomfortable to the post-conciliar zeitgeist) but there are other titles available from other sources, and you can still find pre-conciliar copies of his works every now and then.

One of the most interesting of his works was The Gods of Revolution, which argued that the French Revolution – the progenitor of the modern Left and all subsequent revolutionary movements – was primarily motivated by the desire to promulgate a new religion and moral order for society, both of which were antithetical to the hated religion and moral order of Catholicism and the Ancien Regime.  Now this realization may be old hat to many readers, and Dawson was hardly the first to make this claim, but in an age where history and science are dealt with, especially in the academic sense, from an overwhelmingly materialist and rationalist perspective, Dawson’s analysis is both refreshing and helpful.  I think there some gems in the excerpts below that may help you in your exchanges with the forces of revolution/post-modernism you may encounter.

Or, it was at least interesting to me, and interesting enough to post, so I shall make you suffer through it, if you read to the end.  The excerpts below come from pages 65-66 and 84-85 of this short book (the excerpt starts rather abruptly, discussing the Jacobin Clubs, the focal point of French revolutionary ferment, as being also the religious center of that movement):

The clubs were in fact the churches of the new religion.  “How was the Christian religion  established?” asks a Jacobin writer.  “By the preaching of the apostles of the Gospel.  How can we firmly establish the [new French] Constitution? By the mission of the apostles of liberty and equality. Each [Jacobin club] should take charge of the neighboring country districts. It is enough to send an enlightened and zealous patriot with instructions which he will adapt to the locality; he should also provide himself with a copy of the Declaration of the Rights [of Man]  , the Constitution, the Almanack du Pere Gerard [a scurrilous source of anti-Church calumnies], and a good tract against fanaticism, and a good model of a pike. [I’m sure you can imagine what that is for.  But it might be helpful to ponder who the cult of liberty was spread in our own nation, and who the apostles were of that new religion, whether its founders intended it to be one or not, it has taken on many overtones of religion nonetheless.]

In many respects the clubs had inherited and absorbed the traditions of eighteenth century Freemasonry………[The clubs] possessed the same ideal of optimistic deism and claimed in the same way as the Freemasons to represent the fulfillment of the Christian ideals of fraternity, charity, and morality……….But the religion of the Jacobins was a far more definite and dogmatic theory than that of the Masons had ever been.  From the first it possessed its creed in the Declaration of Rights and its scriptures on the Social Contract and it gradually developed a regular cultus and ritual centering round the Altar of the Fatherland, the Tree of Liberty, the Book of the Constitution, and addressed to deified abstractions like Reason, Liberty, Nature, and the Fatherland [Which were precisely the objects antichrist directed the false religion of satanic-dominated humankind in Robert Hugh Benson’s Lord of the World]…….[[this new revolutionary religion] was a religion of human salvation, the salvation of the world by the power of man set free by Reason.  The Cross has been replaced by the Tree of Liberty, the Grace of God by the Reason of Man, and Redemption by Revolution. [And here I think Dawson gives as good a description of the totality of the opposition of the new religion of sexular pagan leftism to Christianity as I’ve read.  Benson does an excellent job of prognosticating how this new secular religion will move as it seeks to replace Christianity, and forecasts a sad and infinitely trying future for the Church and faithful souls.  What Benson did not predict was that virtually the entire institutional Church might join the false cult of man.]

This creed was by no means peculiar to the Jacobins; it as common to all the liberal idealists from the Illuminati to Blake, and from Shelley to Victor Hugo.  But with the Jacobin Society it acquired the external organization of a sect, with a strict discipline, a rigid standard of orthodoxy, and a fanatical intolerance to other creeds.   From the first the Jacobins had thrown themselves into the persecution of the Church with the Civil Constitution of the Clergy, and the resultant conflict with the nonjuring Catholics was largely responsible for the sectarian bitterness and persecuting spirit of the Jacobin Society. [today, that spirit has been taken up by the more leftward segments of the democrat party in this country and numerous other parties in the West in the various parliamentary democracies, with the same persecuting spirit and the same fanatical adherence to leftist orthodoxy.  In fact, Leftism has continued a steady process of metastasizing, growing ever more extreme in belief and in the amoral society they wish to achieve.]

…………[Thus] the Revolution was no longer satisfied with the liberal Catholicism of the Constitutional Church [the false, heretical, Gallican state “church” set up with the help of apostate bishops and priests who feared men more than God, just as Francis seeks to support in China today], it had come to regard Christianity itself as a counter-revolutionary force which must be destroyed in order to make way for the new religion of humanity.  As early as 26 September 1792 Fouche’ had announced at Nevers that he thought it was his mission “to substitute teh wroship of the Republic and natural morality for the superstitious cults to which the people still unfortunately adhere,” and in the following month at Lyons he staged an elaborate anti-Christian demonstration in which a donkey wearing a cope and mitre dragged a missal and the Gospels through the streets.  During the autumn all the churches in Paris were closed, Notre Dame became the Temple of Reason, and the Constitutional “bishop” of Paris, Gobel, with his leading clergy, made a public renunciation of their ministry at the bar of the Convention………..

——–End Quote——

There is much more that is great in the book, but Dawson writes compactly and densely, making it difficult to pull out excerpts that make much sense on their own.  I’ve read three books by Dawson now and  have enjoyed them a great deal, but I am looking forward to something a bit more polemical in Coulombe.  But that will be some months off, I have some other history to go through first, including a study of the man who set the entire rationalist/materialist/leftist train in motion, Luther.

 

 

 

UPDATED: Reader Has Questions about The Fatima Center and Upcoming Dallas Conference – Are There Problems with Speakers? February 20, 2018

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UPDATE: I added the video I promised in the original post. There’s not much to it, it’s just a brief 1 minute advert for the conference.

A longtime reader of this blog asked some questions I’m really not the best person to answer.  I did have some knowledge of his concerns, so I include my response to him below, but I offered to open up the matter to the readership in the knowledge that many of you have much deeper familiarity with The Fatima Center, Fr. Gruner, and their history than I do.  First, the questions:

This looks to be a fantastic conference, however, I do have some concerns I was hoping you could address before I commit my wife and I to attending.   Although, it’s be wonderful to listen to and perhaps even chat with Chris Ferrara, who often guests on the Mike Church show, I’ve been concerned with Fr. Gruner’s Fatima Center for several years.  Wasn’t Fr. Gruner disobedient to the Church and was suspended?  I have also found that a majority of those associated with and/or sympathetic with Gruner tend to think that the NO Mass is invalid, and many of those are also perhaps sedevecantists.

Not looking to be combative here at all, just cautious and seeking knowledge and perhaps a correction in what may simply be my misunderstanding.

And here is my brief response:

Like the SSPX, there are many arguments on both sides of the Father Gruner situation, but for the most part I think the accusations that he was disciplined are unfounded.  I haven’t really delved into the subject in that much depth, since the man has been dead for a year or two now.

I don’t believe I’ve personally seen or heard any of the speakers I know who are supposed to be at the conference say the Novus Ordo is invalid.  The claim they are sede vacantist is completely false.

To add a little bit more, I have listened to many talks, and read much material, by several of the conference speakers – Chris Ferrara, Michael Matt, Fr. Michael Rodriguez, and Father Paul MacDonald, and I could not recall any of them declaring the Novus Ordo to be invalid.  I feel very confident reinforcing the statement that there are no sede vacantist views in any of these gentlemen that I have ever seen, read, or heard.  Now many have severe problems with the Novus Ordo, especially as it is commonly offered in most parishes, but I don’t think any have declared it to be invalid in toto or from some fundamental basis.  Many also raise very appropriate and vociferous concerns regarding the current pontificate and the overall pontifical leadership of the Church since the late 50s, but that is quite a different thing from declaring that there have been no valid popes since whatever date.

I know some readers are very familiar with Father Nicholas Gruner and John Vennari (may they rest in peace), Michael Matt, Father Rodriguez, and others, and I ask now for additional information that clarifies their views on the topics in question.  I know the reader in question is well intentioned so I ask that replies be made in a spirit of kindness and generosity, and not take these questions as a personal attack on your own beliefs.  I also think specific evidence is the best kind of reply that directly answers the matters in question.

It should be added, however, that many of the speakers on the conference program have run afoul of the institutional Church at various times and have suffered from campaigns of misinformation and misrepresentation.  I think Fr. Gruner in particular suffered from this.  So I would personally very much appreciate any detailed replies that provide light on any particular beliefs held by these men, as well as specific instances of misrepresentation or falsification that may exist.  I bring this up, because I have a vague memory of seeing some really nasty calumnies against not only Fr. Gruner, but also Fr. Rodriguez and, I think, Matt and Ferrara, on Catholic Answers, things that were really quite disprovable.  There have been similar attacks on Church Militant websites.  But it was years ago that I read these things and I have forgotten the details.

Anyway, if one reader has such questions, it is likely that others do as well, so your response may be benefiting a number of souls, and it is always helpful to put these kinds of questions to rest.  I appreciate the time you spend in your response, and again please be charitable.

Find below a video on the upcoming conference by Fr. Paul MacDonald.  I am looking forward to it with enthusiasm.

I should also make very clear, I personally have no questions about the speakers and trust especially Father Rodriguez explicitly in every regard on matters of faith and morals.  I know his brother David, too, and am completely comfortable there, as well, as I am with Michael Matt and Chris Ferrara.  This post was for the benefit of a reader with questions I am not presently in a position to answer directly with hard data confirming the status of the speaker’s belief.  I used to have some of that info to hand, but that was 4 or 5 years ago and I’ve forgotten or misplaced it.  Thus my request to you, but I want to assure all that I cannot wait to attend this conference and am very much looking to it with no reservations of any kind.

Sorry here is the video I promised: