Yes, there is a monthly TLM at St. Elizabeth of Hungary parish in Dallas February 20, 2020
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I erred in the comments of the preceding post in claiming that the Latin Mass at St. Elizabeth of Hungary parish in Dallas was a Novus Ordo Latin, and not a TLM. I have spoken with the priest offering these monthly Masses, Father Emmett Hatch, and they are TLMs. I apologize for the error. Upcoming monthly TLMs at St. Elizabeth of Hungary are:
- March 19
- April 17
- May 11
All Masses are at 7pm. Father is eager for newcomers to check out his TLM and is hoping to see it grow. Please support another young priest attempting to reinvigorate the liturgical and theological basis of the Church, which is all founded upon the ancient Mass codified – but certainly not “invented” – at the Council of Trent.
I will try to gather more info on this Mass and provide it as it becomes available. I am hoping to check out the March Mass, since I have a particular devotion to St. Joseph.
At present, the Latin Mass situation in the Diocese of Dallas, then, includes:
- Daily TLMs at Mater Dei, the Dioceses’ “official” traditional parish
- Monthly TLMs at Saint Elizabeth of Hungary, noted above
- Weekly Novus Ordo Masses in the Dominican Rite at the University of Dallas Chapel (they were TLMs, but for some reason they were switched to NO Latin Mass)
- Periodic Novus Ordo Latin Masses at St. Joseph in Richardson? Can anyone confirm with Father Cargo’s health if these are still planned for Lent, like last year?
- There will be Latin propers and Gregorian Chant in some of the Sunday Masses at St. Mark in Plano during Lent and possibly Easter. I hope Father Rangel will confirm regarding the latter. There might be an opening for the TLM here, if there is enough interest <hint hint>.
Losses to the Latin Mass:
- Latin Mass is no longer offered in Greenville, but Father Weinberger is regularly offering Masses at his new parish, St. Monica. I do not believe these feature any Latin.
Nevertheless, from a strictly “Latin” perspective, the situation in the Diocese of Dallas is markedly improved from what it was 2 years ago, when there was only Mater Dei and NO Latin Masses at St. William in Greenville on Sunday mornings only. I love the fact that a diocesan priest is offering the TLM. Whether it becomes more frequent will depend upon the level of interest and the approval of the pastor at St. Elizabeth, so if you assist at this Mass a supportive, charitable note to the pastor would certainly be helpful. Overall, I think we in this diocese can be very thankful that we now have a bishop who is much more open to traditional, reverent liturgy than his predecessors. Whether that is a positive support in the form of active encouragement, or simply the support of allowing pastors and priests to make their own calls regarding the pastoral needs of their flocks, it has been a huge benefit irrespective. Thank you, Bishop Burns.
Finally, please pray for Father Jason Cargo, he is experiencing heart problems (though he is younger than me, but I have similar problems) and will undergo some kind of treatment that may keep him out of active ministry for some months. He is presently trying to decide his best course of action. Father Cargo is one of those good young priests upon whom so much of the future of this diocese will depend. He has greatly expanded Confession at St. Joseph, which I always appreciate, and has been covered on this blog many times for his unique and effective ways of witnessing to our glorious Faith.
Father Cargo
Wonderful Developments, Liturgical and Otherwise, at St. Mark Parish in Plano January 31, 2020
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He lives! Sorry for the long absence. I even missed the 10th anniversary of the blog by a month and a half.
But something important has come up.
I have known the young pastor of St. Mark parish in Plano, Texas, since he was a newly ordained priest. We were always gratified to see him wearing the occasional cassock and frequent Roman chasuble. He even wore black at funeral Masses. I figured we could expect great things from him.
This good priest, Fr. Marco Rangel, had some other assignments in the intervening 10 or so years, but last year he was assigned as the pastor of St. Mark in Plano. He has made a number of changes that I believe almost all devout Catholics will find most positive.
First, St. Mark, god bless it and whatever its merits, I don’t think has ever been anyone’s idea of a brilliant architectural and artistic achievement. A sunken sanctuary with stadium seating and bare concrete and stucco walls, it at least did have one very large stained glass window, and a nice, traditional crucifix (which the former pastor, Fr. Cliff Smith, is to be thanked for fighting for. He caught surprising flak for replacing the touchdown Jesus, Christ rising on the cross “crucifix” with a far more tasteful,a nd I would say, accurate and Catholic one). However, Fr. Rangel has made a number of changes, which you can see below. Most photos were taken during Christmas, which of course includes additional decorations, but most all the paintings and statuary are new. The angels kneeling in adoration next to the tabernacle are definitely new, and so welcome, as is the Benedictine arrangement on the altar.
The before:
Some initial changes: Small but noticeable:
The full monte:
Changes to the Eucharistic adoration chapel:
I’m amazed at the improvements these changes have made. Some – like the addition of the statue of Our Lady of Guadalupe – were made under Father Smith, but most have been made under Father Rangel.
Next, there are major liturgical improvements underway. Father Rangel offered Mass partially in Latin during Advent and on Christmas, and will do so again during Lenten Sunday Masses. This included the propers and Gloria in Latin as appropriate, as well as organ music and Gregorian chant. Father Rangel intends to continue adding more and more reverent aspects to the Liturgy and is open to even becoming bi-ritual, should interest warrant such a move.
And that’s one of the purposes of this post, not only to apprise of these positive developments, and prove I am still alive, but also to ask readers here in the Diocese of Dallas to send a letter of support to Bishop Burns for authentic, orthodox liturgical improvements, the Traditional Latin Mass, and Father Rangel in particular. Whether you attend St. Mark or not, if you desire to see liturgy more in keeping with the constant belief and practice of the Church, this is a great opportunity to show both your interest and your support for a local priest who is taking large steps in that direction. Of course, Father Rangel has encountered a great deal of resistance, so he could use all the support he can get. This kind of support can be vital in determining how a bishop may respond to these kinds of initiatives made on the part of pastors. I thus implore all local readers, and even interested non-local ones (you should indicate whether or not you reside in the Diocese), to contact both Bishop Burns and Father Rangel. I provide some form letters below, which you are free to use. It is quite a risk for a priest to make changes like this, and at this pace. Father Rangel has not been pastor at St. Mark for even a year, yet, I do not believe.
This also ties in with changes in catechesis and sacramental preparation at St. Mark, which is my final point. Father Rangel is working to revamp the materials used in these vital areas, to be in accord with timeless, unchanging Church teaching which goes back to the Apostolic Deposit of Faith, and not just the current theological experimentations presently in vogue.
Letters should be sent to:
Bishop Edward Burns
Catholic Diocese of Dallas
3725 Blackburn St.
Dallas, TX, 75219
A sample letter is included below, just as an idea. Feel free to compose your own:
Dear Bishop Burns –
Greetings in Christ! I have been apprised of the very positive liturgical, architectural, and catechetical improvements made by Father Marco Rangel of St. Mark parish in Plano, Texas, and I am writing to indicate my wholehearted support for these efforts. Father Rangel is moving the liturgy at St. Mark to be very reverent and to offer great glory and honor to God. His artistic and liturgical changes are in keeping with the great patrimony of our Holy Mother Church, and unite our worship with that of millions of Catholics through years past. His changes incorporating more Latin, Gregorian chant, and great reverence for the Most Blessed Sacrament are all very edifying and are bringing great benefit to many souls. We implore your eminence to support Father Rangel in this new direction for St. Mark.
I would also like to include in this letter a request for regular Traditional Latin Masses (TLM) in the north deanery of the Diocese of Dallas, most particularly in the Plano/Richardson area. At this point, St. Mark and Father Marco Rangel would appear to be the most suited for offering this ancient and beautiful form of the Mass, but St. Joseph in Richardson may also be a strong candidate.
We thank you for your continued leadership of this diocese, and for the many blessings and benefits this leadership has brought. We pray your leadership, and that of good priests like Father Rangel, will continue to bring glory to God and aid in the sanctification of all the souls in the Diocese of Dallas.
God bless and keep you,
Name
In all likelihood it will be Bishop Kelly that reads these and responds, but the message will hopefully get through to Bishop Burns.
I also implore you to send letters of support and thanks to Father Rangel at St. Mark. He can be reached at:
(Pastor) Father Marco Rangel
St. Mark the Evangelist Catholic Church
1105 West 15th Street
Plano, TX 75075
Another sample:
Dear Father Rangel –
Greetings in Christ! I have learned of late that you are in the process of making numerous liturgical, artistic, and catechetical improvements to St. Mark. May God reward you! This is such a happy and blessed development, and will surely bring enormous fruit to souls. I support you in your efforts to bring more reverence to the Mass and to bring St. Mark’s liturgical, artistic, and catechetical practice more in union with the great patrimony of our Holy Mother Church. I am so grateful that some of the fruit of the “reform of the reform” is beginning to blossom in Plano.
I would also like to indicate my interest in having a regular Traditional Latin Mass (TLM) at St. Mark. I reside in the Diocese of Dallas/North Dallas/Collin County area and would be overjoyed to have a TLM closer to my home and/or place of business, particularly at St. Mark. If you are assessing the level of interest in this form of the Mass in the Plano area, please be assured of mine, and that of my family.
May God continue to bless and support your apostolate in every way,
Name
Father Rangel can also be reached at pastor@stmarkplano.org.
If at least 12 of you do not contact Father Rangel with support, I’ll never post again. Like that’ll be any different!
Diocese News: Good Father Paul Weinberger Reassigned from St. William in Greenville to St. Monica in Dallas [UPDATED] September 6, 2019
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[UPDATE: COMMENTS CLOSED. You people know I have your e-mails and IPs, right? It’s kind of obvious when you all use the same one. This campaign of character assassination will not be permitted to continue.]
This is one of those sad/happy, good news-bad news kinda things. Good local priest Father Paul Weinberger (as to the good, you can find several instances of this by searching his name on this blog) has been reassigned from his role as pastor of St. William parish in Greenville, on the periphery of the Diocese, to St. Monica parish in north Dallas. I just spoke with Father Weinberger, and he advises that he will be priest in residence at Saint Monica, and will serve publicly there offering Mass and Confession, but only after a period of personal time in which he takes care of some long-delayed matters related to the estates of his deceased parents.
I say this is good news/bad news because it is bittersweet anytime a priest is reassigned, especially one that had been so long at one parish as Father Weinberger had. He had been at St. William about 18 years and had expressed hopes of serving there for the rest of his priestly ministry. In that time, many families had moved to the Greenville area to enjoy both a more rural manner of living and to take advantage of Father Weinberger’s very solid catechesis, reverent liturgy, and abundant Confession. Obviously many of those people are very sad to see Father Weinberger go. Father Weinberger is being replaced by one of the Diocese’s younger priests, Father Edwin Leonard.
But now, Father Weinberger is moving on to St. Monica, a centrally located and well known parish, where many more souls may take advantage of his gifts. I’m certain he will be well received. Whether Father Weinberger will be offering Latin Mass at St. Monica or publicly performing other devotions such as the nightly Rosary processions and frequent confessions is not known at this time (uh, because I forgot to ask).
Our family attended St. William for several years before eventually, and not without some sadness, moving on to Mater Dei and the full time Traditional Latin Mass. We have missed Father Weinberger over the years and look forward to being able to see him again, now that he is much closer to Irving. It was a nearly hour to drive out to Greenville, now he’ll only be about 15 minutes away.
Please pray for Father Weinberger and the parishioners of St. William. Losing a long time beloved priest can be very painful. I understand that at least some of the families will be traveling to Mater Dei on Sundays, so you Mater Dei readers be on the lookout for new faces (I know……..which ones?)! I will provide updates on Father Weinberger and his service at St. Monica as they become available.
SSPX to Build Huge New Parish in St. Mary’s, Kansas July 14, 2019
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Two things immediately come to mind after viewing this video on Rorate Caeli – 1. I’ll have to check this place out, I’ve never been to St. Mary’s, and 2., St. Mary’s is way, way bigger than Mater Dei. 6 Masses a day with one in a gymnasium seating what looks like close to 600 people, the video sort of vaguely mentions 4000 people attending St. Mary’s. I don’t know if that means every Sunday, but with Mater Dei averaging about 1500 on a Sunday St. Mary’s is much larger. And, I am not surprised, it is in a sense SSPX-town USA, and has been around 13 or 31 years longer than the FSSP parish in the Dallas Diocese. I had long suspected that if there was a TLM parish with higher attendance on Sunday than Mater Dei, it would be St. Mary’s.
Well, God bless them, and may He bless this work. Whatever one thinks of the SSPX – and I for one am very grateful for Archbishop Lefebvre and the priestly society he started and maintained, since without it the TLM and the entire traditional practice of the Faith would probably have been expunged from the Church – this is a huge step forward for the entire traditional movement. This is a cathedral-class building being built for the sole use of the Traditional Latin Mass and the traditional practice of the Faith. It’s a huge undertaking and requires at least $30 million (construction budgets have a tendency to go up as construction advances, but this crew looks like they are really focused on keeping a lid on expenses). And, I must say, it looks like this new church when built will be architecturally and artistically significant. I do pray it has outstanding stained glass and other aspects of liturgical art – there is a great deal available on the market these days, with so many ancient and beautiful churches being razed in Europe and parts of the US.
It looks less and less likely that we will have anything similar (certainly not on such a scale) locally. The funding just isn’t there. Well, a new church will happen in God’s good time. If you feel inspired to help bring a substantial new traditional Catholic parish to fruition, you can donate here.
Father Michael Rodriguez – Is It Acceptable for Catholics to Assist at the Novus Ordo……..? April 8, 2019
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………and is it acceptable to assist at the SSPX if that is their only alternative? Interestingly,, Dr. Peter Kwasniewski of Wyoming Catholic College, among many others, agrees with the latter conclusion regarding the SSPX, that yes it is acceptable/licit (the question of validity having long ago been settled) to assist at the SSPX, particularly when one is faced with a liturgical desert in a particular locale.. I agree with both good men, and I’m very grateful that the SSPX is around in this current climate.
Now, I personally feel increasingly strongly that one should assist at the TLM if one is reasonably available. Of course, the definition of reasonable availability will vary from person to person. But I would also add that not all Novus Ordo Masses are the same. While they are exceedingly rare, rarer, in many cases, than the TLM, very reverently offered Novus Ordo Masses with priests who are solidly catechized and who promote the solemn Doctrine of the Faith to the utmost of their ability are to me an exception to this general guideline. I do have a personal bias, however, in that just such a Mass and priest played a pivotal role in my family finding its way to the TLM. That priest continues to serve and do very much good. Other viable options are reverent Eastern Rite Masses and the like. There is a quite worthy option in the Irving area in St. Basil’s.
Finally, I’m sure SSPX partisans may take exception to framing of Kwasniewski’s post, making an argument that the SSPX is okay in certain conditions. I know many folks fully believe that the situation is quite the opposite, with the SSPX being entirely justified and association with it being really the default option. I get where you’re coming from. But rather than taking exception for Kwasniewski failing to evaluate the SSPX’s status as you might prefer, consider how far the situation has come in just the past few years, where now mainstream conservative Catholic sites are proclaiming it just fine to assist at an SSPX Mass for the Sacraments in the vast majority of cases (because a liturgical and doctrinal wasteland full of abuse and outright evil is exactly what most people face in this tragic time in Church history).
Anyway, Father Michael Rodriguez below, along with Father Isaac Mary Relyea, answering a number of questions at a recent Catholic conference. You’ll take this short post, and you’ll like it!
Glorious Liturgical Developments in Dallas – UPDATED March 1, 2019
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[UPDATE] A quick update, I had the location for the new Dominican Rite traditional Mass wrong in the original version of this post. That has been corrected below.]
I know this blog has been on a long hiatus, but it’s not quite dead, yet. I’ve changed jobs and am able to work from home at least somewhat now, but all this has happened in the past few weeks and I haven’t had time to get back to blogging. However some wonderful news regarding drastically improved and/or authentic liturgy has developed of late that I had to share in spite of any difficulties on my end. The news is this – the Dallas Diocese will be getting its second Traditional Latin Mass location within the next three weeks. In addition, there
Father Cargo
will be another Novus Ordo Latin Mass offered in the Diocese at least through Lent.
Regarding the latter first, the excellent young priest Fr. Jason Cargo, pastor of St. Joseph parish in Richardson, will be offering Novus Ordo Masses in Latin starting on Thursday March 7 at 6pm. These Masses will be held every Thursday of Lent – not sure about Holy Thursday – at the same time. The Masses will be offered Ad Orientem. This is a wonderful development and will hopefully lead to more such Masses in future.
Even closer to home for this writer, Fr. Thomas More Barba of the Dominican Priory of St. Albert the Great adjacent to the campus of the University of Dallas (where my daughter is matriculating as a freshman while living at home) will begin offering the Extraordinary Form of the Dominican Rite – that is the Traditional Latin Mass according to the Dominican Rite – on Tuesday March 19th (the feast of St. Joseph!) and on subsequent Tuesdays at 5pm (at the chapel of the University of Dallas/Church of the Incarnation, contrary to what I indicated in a previous edition of this post). According to Father Barba:
This is the “extraordinary form of the Mass,” or the Mass as it was celebrated by the Dominican Order prior to the Novus Ordo, or “ordinary form of the Mass.” While this is not the extraordinary form of the Roman Rite, the celebration of the Dominican Rite is a gift from the treasury of my Order that I am honored to offer to you all as a friar preacher……..
……..It is my hope that these additions to our liturgical life at UD – and every decision I make – may help all of us to strengthen our bonds of communion with Our Lord and with each other in joyful charity.
I have never assisted at a Dominican Rite Mass. It would be wonderful if readers could help elucidate the differences between the Mass of St. Pius V, or what is broadly known as the Traditional Latin Mass, and the
Father Barba
traditional Dominican Rite. Are both common and proper prayers different? Are the changes slight, or rather substantive, in your opinion? Are there missals available for the traditional Dominican Rite?
These are both extremely welcome developments and, I pray, indicate a substantial change in the approach taken by the ordinary of the Diocese of Dallas with regard to legitimate use of the Church’s great liturgical tradition. The previous bishop of Dallas maintained, contra Summorum Pontificum, that he alone had the right to assess the need for any Masses in Latin, and only in Latin. Pastors could add new Masses in Spanish, Vietnamese, Korean, or any other language as they saw fit, but Latin Mass in any form was, quite unjustifiably, his sole purview. Well now that Kevin Farrell has gone onto bigger and “better” things, perhaps the attitude towards Latin Mass is changing, and a most welcome change it will be. I believe Fr. Weinberger at St. William’s in Greenville is still offering his Novus Ordo Latin Mass Ad Orientem, the Ad Orientem being something he was forbidden to do under Bishop Farrell. Thus, there are some quite positive signs all around, and Bishop Burns should be thanked and, even more, prayed for still more (though I am not certain whether bishops have authority over Masses offered in religious houses within their jurisdiction – certainly pray for the prior of St. Albert’s and the superior of the order, as well).
I bring up this apparent change not to carp about the previous bishop, per se’, but simply to point out the apparent difference and to provide hope for those many thousands of souls who have been pining for a much broader appreciation and offering of more traditional, more reverent liturgy. Or, at least, many souls feel Mass offered in Latin, or especially according to the Church’s ancient pre-conciliar tradition, is much more reverent and efficacious of their communing with God at the great Supper of the Lord than what is offered in the vast majority of parishes the vast majority of the time. I pray this is only the beginning of a great liturgical renewal through return to Tradition in the Diocese of Dallas, and that I have many more occasions to make posts such as this in the near future.
A final note, there is no end date for the EF Dominican Rite Masses at the Church of the Incarnation on the campus of the University of Dallas, that I am aware of. This is a change that will continue beyond Lent.
So get off early from work on Tuesdays and come experience something new but also very old! Thank you to all the good priests who made these developments possible!
Some images of traditional Dominican Rite Masses below. What glory! Thank you, Lord! We do not deserve this, but thank you so very much!
Solemn Vespers of the Dead for the Centenary of the Conclusion of WWI at UD Nov 6 November 5, 2018
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I hope I can attend this tomorrow night. Solemn Vespers for the Dead in the traditional Rite will be offered Nov 6 on the campus of the University of Dallas at 7:30 pm at the Church of the Incarnation. All details below:
Check out the generous confession times at the Church of the Incarnation, too – 45 minutes a day or more Mon, Wed, Fri, and Sat.
I heard the Catholic Action for Faith and Family Conference was a big success. My daughter was there yesterday to sing in the schola for the solemn pontifical low Mass Cardinal Burke offered on Sunday morning. Many other events over the weekend were sparsely attended because so many other folks were off at the big conference at the Irving convention center. Bishop Burns was there. I’ve heard some other good things about Bishop Burns in the last several days on other fronts. Even though he is closely associated with the sad triad of Wuerl/McCarrick/Farrell he seems cut from a bit different cloth.
But the opening of the diocesan records on priest boy rape is a nothingburger. It’s all been carefully checked over in advance but there may be a few belated revelations.
All that aside, I have a small but growing pious hope that in Bishop Burns Dallas has finally gotten someone a bit virtuous as bishop.
Archbishop Sample’s Sermon Praising TLM, Criticizing Novus Ordo May 7, 2018
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Everyone else has done a post on this, I guess I may as well, too.
Actually, given the superlatives I’ve seen lauded on this sermon, I was a trifle disappointed. It was very good, especially from a prelate in this age of the Church, and something that is very much appreciated, but I guess my expectations had been built up to the point that I thought I was going to get a Wolfe-ian or Rodriguezesque full throated takedown of the Novus Ordo, but that’s not quite what this was. Still, it was very good. We’ve known Archbishop Sample has been a strong supporter of the TLM for years, but he makes clear here that he sees the liturgical revolution – or the revolution against the authentic Liturgy – as a serious mistake and something from which the Church must pull back and, in essence, recover. He also vociferously argues that the TLM is not the domain of an aging, nostalgic remnant but is strongly, one might even say overwhelmingly, the province of the young. Which, good to note, the revolutionaries love their pat responses and easy misrepresentations, so the truth has to be repeated over and over to counter those.
Nevertheless, I still get a bit nervous when I hear talk of “mutual enrichment” – to me, the only enriching is the slow replacement of the Novus Ordo by the Mass of the Ages (which term I was very glad to see Archbishop Sample use). +Sample did not indicate much at all how he felt the Novus Ordo might enrich the TLM, but I still feel the concept itself is flawed. The liturgical reform to me was a mistake, a mistake in conception and, at best, horribly botched in execution (though I would also argue that the preponderance of the evidence makes clear that the revolutionaries got just about exactly what they wanted in the Novus Ordo, and that what they wanted was to protestantize the Mass as a first, giant step towards humanizing the Church – that is to say, turning the Church into a humanist construct, a religion more of man, than of God). Yes there was some pushback and modification at the 11th hour, but later developments removed even much of that, at least in the form of some truly deplorable products such as Bugnini’s “children’s Mass.”
I also see basically no ways in which the Novus Ordo might enrich the TLM – I know this might be a harsh or extreme view, but having read a fair amount about how the propers have been butchered and even corrupted and the 3 year cycle of readings almost totally divorced from the ancient (and one might say, inspired) flow of the liturgical year, I don’t think it an unsupportable assertion. That’s not to say that the Novus Ordo is always a disaster or a danger to one’s faith – there are Greenville’s and Hanceville’s and other locales where the Novus Ordo is offered in ways vastly superior to the standard offering in 99% of parishes, but those are all cases where the Novus Ordo was “enriched” by the traditional Mass, rather confirming the fact that “mutual enrichment” is a dead letter, a red herring, and quite likely a grave danger to be avoided. The enrichment must run in one direction only.
It’s still a nice sermon in a lovely setting with a properly vested prelate, which is still far too rare a sight. I am very glad Archbishop Sample offered this Mass and I pray he will continue drawing nearer and nearer to the traditional practice of the Faith and its authentic presentation in the Liturgy:
Coulombe Critiques the Novus Ordo and a Few Pics from Fatima Conference May 3, 2018
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A great excerpt from the weekly Tumblar House series of video Q&As with Charles Coulombe wherein Mr. Coulombe discusses the Novus Ordo and the problems with it. He gives a fair and accurate assessment, though not as harsh and thoroughly critical as perhaps I might be. He does note, quite rightly, that some “presentations” of the Novus Ordo are much better than others. Indeed, the Novus Ordo in Latin, Ad Orientem, offered with great reverence with the Asperges and a solid priest giving good catechesis in the sermon with all the bells and smells, is what the Novus Ordo perhaps should have been, though I would argue that no change to the Mass was necessary and that humans are always on perilous ground in playing around with divine creations, which I would say the Mass largely is. My family and I derived great fruit from just such a Mass for several years in the mid-2000s, and that experience paved the way for our eventual “transition” to the TLM. Having said that, I strongly believe the TLM is the once and future Mass for the entire Church, but getting back there will likely take a very long time.
But what is generally offered in most parishes is a far, far cry from that relatively benign Novus Ordo experience. In fact, what is offered in most parishes is a positive danger to the faith of many souls, especially those badly formed in the Faith (or formed well but in some false simulacrum of Catholicism).
What I really like in the analysis below, however, one thing Mr. Coulombe says: the Council did not address the problem truly affecting the Church, that the Mass did not need a radical makeover but that the penetration of Leftism into the minds and heart so most priests did, but this was ignored, as was the original driving force behind the Council, at least in the minds of the large majority of bishops polled before it took place – formally condemning communism as a philosophy and condemning those who embraced it.
I also very much appreciate the fact that many of the liturgical innovations that came as a result of the Council, though very few were called for in Sacraosanctum Concilium, already stood condemned before the Council took place! These were condemned by Pius XII in his encyclicals Humanii Generis and Mediator Dei (which reminds me, I really need to re-read those). Anyway, it’s a really good video and I hope you find watching it edifying:
Are those five Eucharistic miracles, or miracles associated with the Eucharist, he mentions above approved or clearly demonstrated? I’m only familiar with one or two.
The pics below came from the March conference of Our Lady’s Army of Advocates at the DFW airport. It was a wonderful experience, not only for the talks, but for meeting so many good friends and readers of this blog. The wonderful Rodriguez family of El Paso was there, and I got to take some pictures with members of their family, along with others. The pics are a bit on the blurry side, but you takes what you gets. Thank you to the kind Beatrice Rodriguez for sending these to me, and sorry it took so long to get them posted!
David Rodriguez, myself, Beatrice Rodriguez, and Father Michael Rodriguez
Michael Matt, Beatrice Rodriguez, me
Coulombe: Attendance at SSPX not Grave Disobedience……. February 28, 2018
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……….or necessarily sinful, because even if one grants that the SSPX “rejects” certain parts of Vatican II, according to Benedict XVI, any novel declarations made at Vatican II were not dogmatic and thus not binding on conscience. Thus, the SSPX has been and remains free to disagree with Guadium Et Spes, Dignitatis Humanae, and Nostra Aetate to their heart’s content, in so far as those parts they disagree with present novel but non-dogmatic explanations.
Now, of course, many partisans of the revolution in the Church will argue that every single last jot and tittle of Vatican II represent THE most dogmatic things ever produced by the Church, especially the most novel or revolutionary parts. But I think Benedict is correct here, and has the support of both Paul VI and John XXIII in these respects – both of them declared the intent of the Council was not to define any new dogmas, but simply to explicate Church “teaching in a modern light.” The revolutionaries must make every utterance of Vatican II dogmatic in order to try to compel souls to adhere to the revolutionary program.
Now there are other matters surrounding the SSPX, as to whether they somehow disobeyed papal directives under Paul VI or John Paul II, but those matters really dealt with specific individuals and the individual excommunications have either been lifted, or the individuals in question have long since passed to their reward. I read some claim that all SSPX priests were suspended a divinis in 1976 and that those suspensions remain in effect and this serves as the basis for SSPX Masses being “valid but not licit,” according to many.
As to the actual question, however – whether attendance at an SSPX Mass constitutes “grave disobedience” or not – I think it very much depends on the spirit of the person who attends the Mass, does it not? One can attend a Novus Ordo offered by their bishop in a spirit of grave disobedience. I can think of a variety of reasons why one might feel compelled to attend SSPX Masses regularly without doing so from a standpoint of disobedience or bad faith. Perhaps all local Novus Ordos are so filled with abuse, error, and heresy that they represent a positive danger to one’s faith (and that of their children), perhaps one is just blown away with the beauty, reverence, and majesty of the TLM and no other option is available, perhaps the SSPX just happens to be close by, the Mass is beautiful and the soul in question isn’t hung up on which side in this debate might be right or wrong (IOW oblivious to the political situation), etc., etc.
Anyway Mr. Coulombe:
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