Matthew VIII and ecumenism with Jews March 7, 2014Posted by tantamergo in abdication of duty, Basics, Bible, catachesis, Ecumenism, episcopate, error, foolishness, General Catholic, Papa, sadness, scandals, secularism, self-serving, sickness, Society.
The Gospel for the Thursday after Ash Wednesday in the 1962 Missal (actually, mine is 1945, but the reading is the same) is from Chapter VIII of St. Matthew’s Gospel (verses 5-13). Towards the end, Our Blessed Lord says some things that would appear, to me, to contradict much of the modern “ecumenical” attitude in the Church, especially with regard to the Jews:
At that time, when Jesus had entered into Capharnaum, there came to Him a centurion, beseeching Him, and saying: Lord, my servant lieth at home sick of the palsy and is grievously tormented. And Jesus saith to him: I will come and heal him. And the centurion making answer, said: Lord, I am not worthy that Thou shouldst enter under my roof: but only say the word and my servant shall be healed. For I also am a man subject to authority, having under me soldiers, and I say to this: Go, and he goeth; and to another: Come, and he cometh; and to my servant: Do this, and he doeth it.
And Jesus hearing this, marveled, and said to them that followed Him: Amen I say to you, I have not found so great faith in Israel. And I say to you that many shall come from the east and the west, and shall sit down with Abraham and Isaac and Jacob in the kingdom of Heaven: but the children of the kingdom shall be cast out into the exterior darkness: there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth. And Jesus said to the centurion: Go and as thou hast believed, so be it done to thee. And the servant was healed at the same hour.
While this Gospel is normally taken as a glorious exegesis on faith, which it is of course is, this second half is also most significant. In it, Christ refers to the Gentiles being the prime recipients of the New Covenant, and prophesies the Jewish rejection of the same. There were certainly many Jewish converts to the early faith, and the Apostles were entirely Jewish in origin, but we also know from 2000 years of history that many Jews, and especially the Jewish religious establishment, rejected Christ’s Sacrifice, the life of Grace, and the entire New Covenant.
And, Our Blessed Lord seems to make clear that this rejection will result in their damnation. He refers specifically to the children of the present kingdom – the Old Covenant, the Jewish religious state, then under Roman domination, but formerly with their own kings – as being cast out for their refusal to accept Christ.
Unfortunately, the post-conciliar ecumenical movement, extending even to the very highest level of the Church in the form of the past several popes, routinely not just implies, but directly states, that the Old Covenant is somehow still operative and that Jews have their own “path to salvation” even while deliberately rejecting Christ – which many modern-day Jews make it a point to do. It is not true charity to leave people in error, to tell them their religious heritage, which they certainly hold dear, is somehow salvific. It reeks of universal salvation and indifferentism of a kind that would have shocked Catholics just a few decades ago.
Beyond this one quite, there are of course numerous portions of Sacred Scripture which would seem to directly contradict the underlying rationale for the entire ecumenical movement, especially that portion of the movement directed at non-Christians. This is just one small reference point. There are dozens of others.
But as we see abroad in the Church today, more and more, there are efforts to undermine if not obliterate Dogmas founded on an incredibly sure foundations of direct references from Scripture as well as 2000 years of Tradition. The Church in Germanic speaking countries is just about totally run amok, with bishops claiming fornication is no longer a sin, that contraception use is morally acceptable (in spite of direct statements claiming this use is mortally sinful going back to the very, very earliest Church – and before), and of course that maybe bigamy is OK, and go ahead and present for the Blessed Sacrament while you remain married to two people, at least in God’s eyes.
To the extent that the Holy Father seems to be at least toying with some of these notions, as well, it is certainly scandalous and profoundly unnerving to faithful Catholics. I don’t have a big point with this post, other than to relate that I was struck by this seeming condemnation in advance of the modern ecumenical movement by Our Blessed Lord Jesus Christ. Christ was always very direct and plain with regard to salvation: either you accept Him as Son of God, observe the commandments, and practice virtue in cooperation with Grace, or you will not be saved. You will suffer eternal torments in hell.
It is amazing that there are people in the Church – uneducated or educated to the point of imbecility, I know not – that appear to have utterly forgotten their Scripture. Or, they are simply so overwhelmingly influenced by the world and its errors that they have grown cold in the Faith.
Difficult times, to be certain. I can only advise more prayer and penance, for ourselves and our Holy Mother Church.
Divine Mercy Conference this week in Dallas March 7, 2014Posted by tantamergo in Basics, catachesis, Dallas Diocese, episcopate, fun, General Catholic, Interior Life, North Deanery, sanctity, Virtue.
Sorry for the late notice, the conference actually opens tonight. I’m a little unsure on Saturday attendance, I get the impression that while Friday and Sunday events are open to all, those on Saturday are only open to those who have made a donation to some organization. Anyway, here are the details via MJD:
Father Mitch Pacwa from EWTN will be giving talks. Mass, Confession, Holy Hour, Procession, Benediction, Veneration of First Class relic of St. Faustina.
FRIDAY- March 7, 2014 OPENING LITURGY (OPEN TO ALL)
at Divine Mercy of Our Lord Catholic Church [Mesquite]
-7:00 PM- Opening Mass with Bishop Douglas Deshotel-
Auxiliary Bishop of Dallas (to be confirmed)
-8:00 PM- Exposition, Sung Chapel, Holy Hour, Benediction
and Procession (Fr. Zmudzinski, C.P.M.)
SATURDAY- March 8, 2013 CONFERENCE ON THE DIVINE MERCY
at Divine Mercy of Our Lord Catholic Church
(WITH DONATION RECEIPTS ONLY) $25
AM -8:00 Praise and Worship Songs [Ummm.......]
-8:40 Welcome and Orientation and Initial Prayers
-9:00 First Talk: The Love and Mercy of God in Human History
-9:50 (Fr. Mitch Pacwa, S.J.) (Meditation Song)
10:00 Second Talk: The Divine Mercy Message to St. Faustina
10:50 (Dr. Bryan Thatcher) (Meditation Song)
11:00 Third Talk: Healing of humanity through the power of the
(Fr. Chuck Zmudzinski, C.P.M.) the Love and Mercy of God
11:50 Songs of Praise and Thanksgiving
PM 12:00 LUNCH (available from Cafeteria at minimal cost)
12:45 Praise Songs
-1:00 Fourth Talk: Talk on the Holy Eucharist, source and
(Fr. Mitch Pacwa, S.J) summit of Love and Mercy
-1:50 Meditation Song
-2:00 Fifth Talk: Daily Living experience of the Gospel of Love
(Dr. Bryan Thatcher) and Mercy, through the Cenacle
Practical Living of Love and Mercy
-2:50 Exposition and Holy Hour:
-3:00 Sung Chaplet, Holy Hour (Talk), Benediction and
(Fr. Chuck Zmudzinski) Procession of the Blessed
-4:00 Confessions (in the Classrooms) and Veneration of
St. Faustina’s Relic
-5:00 Mass for the FIRST SUNDAY OF LENT-2014
Fr. Mitch Pacwa, S.J. (OPEN TO EVERYONE)
SUNDAY- March 9, 2014- CLOSING CEREMONIES OF THE CONFERENCE (Bilingual)
(OPEN TO ALL)
(at the Mesquite Arena, 1818 Rodeo Dr., Mesquite, Tx. 75149)
-2:00 PM- Divine Mercy Stations of the Cross
and Consecration Prayers
-2:50 PM- Exposition of the Blessed Sacrament (Deacon Bill Jasmin)
-3:00 PM- Sung Chaplet of Divine Mercy
-4:00 PM- Solemn High Mass and Closing Ritual with [This means a sung NO - I'd love to hear a report of how this Mass was offered. I won't be able to attend. Key details would be Ad Orientem, any Latin, male servers, incense, communion rail (heh - unlikely), etc]
Most Rev. Kevin Farrell, D.D. Bishop of
Dallas, Texas (to be confirmed)
After my conversion, I attended a number of Fullness of Truth conferences, and they certainly helped guide me in a better practice of the Faith. I wouldn’t say they played a role in my embracing the traditional practice of the Faith, and while I might at present take issue with the direction of some of the presentations at these conferences, I would say overall they actually helped guide me towards a more traditional practice of the Faith. They certainly helped reveal the dearth of catechesis available at most parishes.
Check it out if you have interest/time.
I wasn’t going to cover this kind of thing very much (if at all) over Lent, but it is absolutely exploding in the secular media (which is how I found it, I was browsing for some secular news, and this is what I see. I’m going to cry). Pope Francis gave another of his famous “wide-ranging” interviews, and hinted that the Church might be OK with civil unions for same-sex couples. So much for a sin that “cries out to Heaven for vengeance:”
Pope Francis suggested the Catholic Church could tolerate some types of nonmarital civil unions as a practical measure to guarantee property rights and health care. He also said the church would not change its teaching against artificial birth control but should take care to apply it with “much mercy.”
Pope Francis’ words appeared in an interview published March 5 in the Italian daily Corriere della Sera…..
……..”Matrimony is between a man and a woman,” the pope said, but moves to “regulate diverse situations of cohabitation (are) driven by the need to regulate economic aspects among persons, as for instance to assure medical care.” [It is almost a cliche' among Catholic progressives to suborn doctrine in favor of ostensibly more "pastoral" solutions, solutions that always tend towards materialist concerns. Is this what the Pope is doing?] Asked to what extent the church could understand this trend, he replied: “It is necessary to look at the diverse cases and evaluate them in their variety.” [Doctrine is clear. Christ spoke in terms of black and white. The devil loves shades of grey. In practice, "looking at diverse cases and evaluating them" has involved a whole lot of grey]
In the interview, Pope Francis praised Pope Paul VI’s 1968 encyclical “Humanae Vitae,” which prohibited the use of contraception.
In contradicting contemporary pressures for population control, Pope Paul’s “genius was prophetic, he had the courage to side against the majority, defend moral discipline, put a brake on the culture, oppose neo-Malthusianism, present and future,” Pope Francis said.
But he also noted that Pope Paul had instructed confessors to interpret his encyclical with “much mercy, attention to concrete situations.”
“The question is not whether to change the doctrine, but to go deeper and make sure that pastoral care takes account of situations and of what each person is able to do,” Pope Francis said. [To, in effect, absolutely neuter the doctrine by giving carte blanche in "pastoral" situations? Has this not been the practice in most of the Church since Humanae Vitae was released, and has that not led to mass apostasy from a formally defined doctrine? Contraception is an intrinsic evil. You either use it or you don't. What "pastoral situations" can there be that would permit the use of contraception?]
The pope said birth control, like the predicament of divorced and civilly remarried Catholics, [How is sin a "predicament" for the Church? The Church has been healing souls for two millenia. Sin only becomes a predicament when we don't want to call it sin anymore] would be a topic of discussion at the Vatican in October at an extraordinary Synod of Bishops on the family. [I dread this synod more and more.] He said the synod would approach all such problems “in the light of profound reflection,” rather than casuistry, which he described as a superficial, pharisaical theology focused exclusively on particular cases. [In other words, a theology hung up on "rules"......does Pope Francis consider St. Thomas, the Angelic Doctor, "pharasaical?" ]
The pope said he had welcomed the “intense discussion” at a February gathering of cardinals, where German Cardinal Walter Kasper gave a talk suggesting divorced and civilly remarried Catholics might sometimes be allowed to receive Communion even without an annulment of their first, sacramental marriages.
And Pope Francis heaped great lauds on Kasper both during and after this gathering.
Wow. I know people will say “nothing’s happened yet,” and “it’s just an interview,” but so much of what we’re seeing from this pope confirms time and time again that he plans on enacting – or is at least very favorable to – those items the progressives really wanted in Vatican II but could not get. It’s a veritable laundry list of progressive dreams for a notional “Vatican III.” I’m sure I’ll hear I need to calm down (and perhaps I do), but I’m actually feeling quite dispassionate at the moment. It’s not like this is the first time the Pope has made statements that cause Catholic hearts to palpitate. I’m just reviewing very public statements dating back nearly a year.
As if we needed more motivation for this Lent, but this Synod is shaping up as the most critical, pivotal event in the history of the Church since the Council. We must do penance for all those lost in sin. And for the good of our Church, and for our own sins and failings that have brought us this leadership in the Church we apparently deserve.
What’s going on in Syracuse? March 4, 2014Posted by tantamergo in abdication of duty, disaster, episcopate, error, foolishness, General Catholic, horror, persecution, scandals, secularism, sexual depravity, sickness, Society, Spiritual Warfare.
This is a bit far afield from Dallas, but being your intrepid reporter on all things Catholic (that happen to interest me), and knowing how wrecked virtually every upstate New York diocese has been by rampantly ideological progressive dominance over the past 40 odd years, I thought the following two items relevant.
First, two Catholic churches in Syracuse are bringing in a transgendered person to talk about their confused and destructive (not to mention, appalling to God) lifestyle:
Two Syracuse Catholic Churches are hosting a series of talks on what it’s like to be transgender.
The series of events highlighting what it’s like to be transgender is sponsored by All Saints Catholic Church and St. Lucy’s Catholic Church.
It was organized by the All Saints LGBT Task Force and volunteers from Family Allies for Trans Equality in New York State.
The next event is March 4. “Voices From The Journey: Hearing From Transgender Persons.” That will be from 10 to 11:30 a.m. and repeated the same day from 7 to 8:30 p.m.
This is only part of the list of talks. There are day long workshops, all intended to normalize a severe perversion/mental disorder and undermine Catholic Doctrine. These conferences are invariably heavy on emotion and short on reason, and try to win support from Catholics (or, it looks like, Katholycs) for both opposition to that Doctrine and in support of insupportable immorality.
Leaving aside Church Doctrine and the offense such folks give to God (see both Old and New Testament), the life outcomes for transgender types are horrific. Even in this unceasingly “tolerant” age, where virtually every kink is approved of and given cultural support on a wide scale, trans-types have nightmarish rates of suicide, substance abuse, self-mutilation, chronic depression, etc. This lifestyle is so fundamentally disordered that to be a trans is to shorten one’s lifespan, on average, by over 40 years. Some try to claim this is due to lingering cultural oppression, but please…..does this series of talks – during LENT, of all times – indicate repression?
What it does indicate is that the Diocese of Syracuse has serious, serious problems. I have to ask, where is the bishop? How can he tolerate not only these talks, but the presence of doctrine-rejecting, division-inducing groups like “ LGBT Task Force and volunteers from Family Allies for Trans Equality?” We have seen in this Diocese of Dallas that these alleged homosexual support groups almost invariably depart from Church Doctrine and become advocates for radical notions of sodom/gomorrah “rights,” undermining the sensus fidei of the faithful and harming the entire Body of Christ.
Reading any number of books, from Rite of Sodomy to Ungodly Rage to Goodbye, Good Men will reveal to any even remotely faithful Catholic that these pro-homosex groups are virtually unanimously irreconcilable with the Faith. And yet a group that is truly dedicated to the good of souls and aiding those with same-sex attraction to living a chaste, virtuous life are ignored and reviled, in spite of the enormous good they do.
But it’s not just in the parishes. A Katholyc college within the Diocese of Syracuse is planning a “drag show,” again during Lent, on campus:
Unfortunately, the “smoke of Satan” is spreading on Catholic campuses. This time Catholic Le Moyne College in Syracuse, New York, is planning its second annual “drag show” on March 10 in the Grewen Auditorium.
The lewd event flatly undermines moral values and is being promoted on the college’s web site as a “fun event for everyone! Learn about drag culture ettiquet [sic], enter prize raffles, and dance!”
An advertisement for the event attacks human nature by displaying a human face that is a mixture of male and female. Here is the inappropriate tweet promoting the pro-homosexual show.
The “show” is promoted by a group on campus called “Creating Awareness & Reaching Equality.” The same group supports same-sex “marriage” and other sins that violate Catholic moral teaching.
Naturally, this is a college in the “Jesuit” tradition. What will they do when there are no more Jesuits to have a “tradition?”
So this college can get away with promoting decadent, sinful filth, and it’s scot free! But a traditional Catholic college may start to drift a bit in things traditional, and it’s crush, crush them! The hypocrisy is stultifying.
I’d say Bishop Robert Cunningham has some ‘splaining to do. But the entire Church in upstate New York has become diabolically disoriented under the influence of the almost certainly active homosexual, but now thankfully retired, Bishops Matthew Clark and Howard Hubbard. There were numerous instances of priest boy-rape in upstate New York. These things tend to go together: support for the homosexual agenda, and boy-rape scandals.
The Church is upstate New York, once a glorious pillar, is now a fallen down wreck. Vocations are pathetically low (by deliberate intent), parishes are closed, the percentage of Catholics in the population continues to plummet, the few remaining faithful souls are isolated and persecuted, and sin abounds.
But where sin abounds, Grace abounds the more, so let us pray for the conversion and reconstitution of the Church in upstate New York, and for the the conversion of Bishop Cunningham.
You can sign a petition opposing the drag horror show here.
More notes on Fisher-More and comments back on March 4, 2014Posted by tantamergo in Basics, Dallas Diocese, General Catholic, scandals, foolishness, Latin Mass, sadness, disaster, episcopate, Tradition, persecution, error, self-serving, the return.
I am truly sorry I had to disable comments on the two Fisher-More posts yesterday, but some tempers were getting hot and I simply cannot monitor comments in the evening/nighttime. I didn’t like to do it, but I did not think I could just leave comments wide open, because I had a fair number I had to delete or edit.
I had a long conversation with some people very familiar with Fisher-More last night. It was very helpful, and I thank the kind souls for their time.
Unfortunately, much of what they told me – as so much of what I’ve heard before – was in confidence, so I have to be deliberately vague. I can say that this conversation only reinforced in my mind the grave situation at Fisher-More and the moral/ethical problems of the college’s president. His behavior is inexplicable, a true “Doctor Jekyll and Mr. Hyde” situation.
There are some details I feel I can share. The first of these is that the present student body at Fisher-More College consists of 25 students, which correlates exactly with what I was saying yesterday. Due to sagging morale surrounding all the internal strife on campus (a campus which consists of one building where some of the administration/faculty actually live, creating almost a pressure-cooker type environment due to close and constant proximity), many students stopped assisting at Daily Mass some time ago. Some of the students don’t have a particular attraction to the TLM, anyway. The situation became so grave the administration actually compelled the students to assist at some of the daily devotions and Mass.
But given that there are only 25 students, and a good number of those either have the means of assisting at Mass elsewhere, or aren’t particularly interested in assisting at daily TLMs at present, the number of souls truly afflicted by this ban by Bishop Olsen is in the range of 8-12. There remains an enormous principle involved, about which more later, but I think it important to have an understanding of the scope of the matter. I think it is a tragedy and a sin against charity whenever a reasonably attended TLM is closed by a bishop/religious superior for ulterior motives, as seems to be the case here. But it needs to be recognized that the “community” affected here was truly small.
On a related note, and this is truly key, there has been no priest available to regularly offer the TLM at Fisher-More, anyways, since the Fathers of Mercy departed. There has not been a TLM for going on to near two weeks, at present. I do not know of any locally available priests who would be able/willing to offer the TLM at Fisher-More. I am unaware of any diocesan priests in Fort Worth that can offer the TLM. So, even without the ban, the TLM at Fisher-More was in a difficult situation.
But about Bishop Olson. I have received some input that suggests he might have some overall antipathy towards the TLM, based on his previous record at a local seminary. I really cannot say very much, here, and I hope you understand, but there is some evidence that his view of the TLM might be one of tolerance, at best, and certainly not one of support. We probably knew that already.
While the bishop’s options were quite limited, I do fear this action could be part of an emerging paradigm to crush traditional criticism of the Council by denying the TLM to groups that engage in such criticism. Since the TLM is the heart of traditional Catholic life, removing it from an organization may prove an effective way to kill both the offending organization and the criticism itself. But there are so many factors in play, it’s difficult for me to say definitively whether this particular action is part of a trend, or just a terribly unfortunate outlier.
As for the rest of what I had confirmed (for I had understood much of what was discussed already, but the conversations simply helped fill in many details) last night, it’s really difficult to go into in any detail. I can say that there was a rapid and pretty severe new orientation towards a very negative view of controversial aspects of Vatican II. These are views I may have some sympathy towards, but they were expressed in particularly harsh, condemnatory, and final ways. There was also the prospect of developing a relationship with canonically irregular groups as a sort of new direction for the college.
All in all, there are a great many broken hearts. It seemed as if Fisher-More were really about to take off a couple of years ago, but that dream seems pretty remote, now. About half the student body left at the fall-spring break this year. More plan to leave. Some of these who are leaving have no other collegiate options, but they cannot continue in the unhealthy, scandalous environment present at Fisher-More. Some very long time faculty/administration have left, as well. There is constant turnover in the board. There is a great deal of anger and upset, and the whole environment of the college seems almost irretrievably poisoned.
Oh, one more thing I can confirm, Fr. Gruner was at Fisher-More, he did offer Mass, but it was apparently a private Mass. So there you go.
Again, as I said in the first post yesterday, while I have been amazed at the passion this matter involving a tiny Catholic college has aroused, this is not a hill I’m going to die on. If you feel passionately that Bishop Olson took this action simply out of hatred for the TLM, be my guest. I’m not entirely convinced of that, but who knows? It could be true.
I do plan on this being my last post on the matter, and comments will be monitored closely. It is past time to shift gears towards Lent.
More on Fisher-More – UPDATED March 3, 2014Posted by tantamergo in Basics, Dallas Diocese, episcopate, error, foolishness, General Catholic, persecution, sadness, scandals, secularism, self-serving, shocking, the return.
Heh. Love that lede.
These tidbits include some comments from priests close to the situation, to which I will add comments:
A priest friend forwarded information from HIS priest friend in Dallas. Thus, I will edit a great deal and use bullet points. These things either happened or they didn’t and can be verified one way or another:
- In May a prof of FMC (Fisher More College) gave a talk and denied aspects of Vatican II [To my knowledge, this has occurred more than just once. And by denied,you could take that to mean repudiated or claimed as heretical various aspects.....]
- The FSSP priests withdrew their services at FMC some time ago. [True. Issues 1 and 2 are not unrelated]
- Taylor Marshall, married with several children, resigned his job at FMC without another job. [Ditto]
- At Thanksgiving, 2013, Fr. Nicholas Gruner, the suspended Fatima Priest, said Mass at FMC. [Not sure on this, would not be surprised, not that I have a huge problem with Fr. Gruner, but he is suspended at present]
- These things took place when the Diocese of Fort Worth was vacant.
- “This is NOT about hatred for the TLM.” [I think this is the key]
I think I can say with assurance that this last bit is their honest opinion. These priests saw the direction rhetoric regarding aspects of the recent Council was headed and had to terminate their relationship. I’m not sure who is offering Mass there, now, the Fathers of Mercy pulled out as well.
I had thought – but I could be wrong, because I cannot recall where I learned this – that TLMs were getting infrequent at Fisher-More due to lack of priests to offer them. Or at least that they were not as regular as before. Or maybe they got a retired priest to offer them? It would be great if a commenter could fill in on this.
The priests in question are ones you are accustomed to hearing on AudioSancto (or used to be, in one case). So, these are men who have sacrificed a great deal to bring the glorious TLM to others and who aren’t exactly apologists for the revolution against the Church.
I know it looks bad. Re-reading that letter from Bishop Olson a few times……..well, I pray its tone and even parts of the content are a factor of his being a new bishop, and not reflective of how he’s going to administer the Diocese of Fort Worth. It was very impolitic. It was wide-open to a very negative interpretation – which perhaps it intended to convey. It reeked of the kind of harshness progressives have loved to use against faithful Catholics.
So, it could be Olson is an “enemy” of Tradition and the Traditional Latin Mass, but I would just caution folks, again, to perhaps wait until more data becomes available before reaching that conclusion. All those – let me repeat, ALL those – I know who are truly close to the situation are saying this is not about hatred for the TLM, but about a traditional university that has gone too far into what one commenter termed “Toxic Tradition.”
In practical terms, this matter will probably be moot in a matter of months, anyways. The college has been mismanaged to a degree that is almost certainly irrevocable. And as I said in the comments, there aren’t more than a couple dozen on-campus students at present. Hundreds are not being affected here. That doesn’t lessen the impact on these souls, nor detract from the principle involved, but we should understand this is not like the ongoing FFI situation where a vibrant, growing order was viciously crushed. I say this as one who really wanted this to be a good local alternative for my children, but it just doesn’t seem possible under the present leadership.
UPDATE: I had an update, but it now appears questionable. There is a lot of confusing info out there. It is amazing how much passion there is about this college that doesn’t even have 25 students.
Thanks, I’d rather send my kids to UT.
How orthodox young priests are broken, part deux March 3, 2014Posted by tantamergo in Basics, catachesis, Dallas Diocese, disaster, episcopate, error, General Catholic, horror, persecution, priests, sadness, scandals, secularism, self-serving, sexual depravity, sickness, Society.
I related in a previous post how liturgical abuse and assignments with liberal pastor overseers are used to help break priests of their orthodoxy. But even more frighteningly, a subsequent chapter describes the use of psychological torture and even brainwashing to break the wills and intellects of orthodox young priest aspirants. Some very well known and orthodox priests even likened the seminary system in the United States – at least as it existed 10 or so years ago (it has improved, but not that much) – to the satanic Soviet system of GULAGs and general communist totalitarianism. That might seem an overstatement, but wait until you read below, and, also, consider that many of these seminary overlords are far, far leftwing. The Left has shown repeatedly that it views dissent from its religious orthodoxy as something akin to a mental disorder – we see that hear in this country, and the Soviets literally institutionalized those who opposed the nightmares of the “perfect” communist state.
From chapter 7 of Goodbye, Good men, Go see the Shrink!
Father Perry Amos [not his real name] of the Diocese of Austin put it this way: “One of the classic dynamics at the seminary was that the young, and hence in some ways immature, orthodox seminarian, hammered from all sides by a system inimical to his faith, his sexuality, and his sense of mature human behavior, would be worn down to the point of ‘striking back.’ If necessary, this pressure could also be increased by advisers, faculty evaluations, etc., especially when thy attempted to rearrange or force the manifestation of a candidate’s conscience. Once you ‘struck back’ you were dead. You were ‘insubordinate,’ ‘had problems with authority figures, or were ‘rigid.’ [Apparently, being "rigid" is the worst possible sin a seminarian can commit. It means being faithful to the Magisterium, and we can't have that! It will ruin our glorious proletarian revolution!] It was sobering at the time to realize how closely the dynamic paralleled the brain-washing strategies of the communist re-education camps. Even the connotations of the terms ‘rigid,’ ‘pre-conciliar,’ ‘anti-community,’ resonated with communist terms like ‘capitalist,’ bourgeois,’ and ‘anti-democratic.’” [I prefer the term 'running dog lackeys']
Father John Trigilio [A very orthodox priest and host of my favorite EWTN show, ever, "Web of Faith." It helped me a lot during my conversion] of the Harrisburg diocese made the same comparison: “The one book that helped me persevere through my twelve years of seminary,” he said, “was Alexsandr Solzhenitsyn’s Gulag Archipelago. [I have read this masterpiece. Everyone should. It reveals to its naked core the enormous, diabolical evil that is communism. That Trigilio, a priest I respect, should make this comparison to Catholic seminaries.....it is beyond disturbing. Heaven help us. But as he goes on in his description, it is plain he is not exaggerating] His imprisonment and constant surveillance was in many ways identical to my seminary life, in which cultural revolutionaries sought to ‘rehabilitate’ the orthodox into becoming full-fledged party members of the new dissidence. As in the former USSR, if you opposed the ‘party-line,’ which in the case of the seminary was their particular brand of heterodoxy, then you wre labeled as mentally u nfit and kept under close scrutiny ‘for your own safety.’ The mind games, spying, and hidden agendas as well as the vast bureaucracy of the KGB was cloned in seminaries across America.”
“Fellow seminarians spy on one another; blackmail, intimidation, slander, threats, and even violence are employed to protect the status quo. Quote the Pope and you are an archconservative, John Birch, KKK, neo-nazi, etc. Quote Gore Vidal and you are an intellectual Renaissance man.” [There seems to be a corollary between the methods of surveillance and repression reported here, and traits commonly associated with a certain, currently very en vogue sexual deviancy. But given that so many of that kind ruled so many seminaries, that would make sense.]
“I actually saw vocations tortured and killed by those who were supposedly there to promote and foster vocations.” What Trigilio witnessed, he said, can only be described as ” a real persecution and systematic extermination of orthodoxy and manly piety so as to artificially create a climate for married and women clergy.” [I tell you, I find the words chosen by Fr. Trigilio chilling. "Tortured," "killed," "systematic extermination." These are the kinds of words we normally see when reading about horrid evils like genocide or "ethnic cleansing." Instead, they are being applied to what has occurred to thousands, perhaps tens of thousands of hopeful, pious young Catholic men who only wanted to serve God in His Holy Church! It is unthinkable that such a state could exist! And yet I respect Fr. Trigilio a great deal, so I am inclined to accept his assessment at face value.]
Amazing. Diabolical. Two things pop to mind that I frequently come back to: one, that public heresy is invariably driven by private (or not so private) sin, and, two, that there are no limits to the depths of depravity to which one can sink when you cut God our of your life, or reject His Law and lead a life devoid of Grace. It appears both were dominant in most seminaries for decades.
Incredible stuff. What a day. More comments and views than ever, not sure how it happened! But I’m so glad to know you all love, me, you really, really love me!
I feel like Sally Field!
How orthodox young priests are broken, pt. 1 March 3, 2014Posted by tantamergo in Basics, catachesis, Dallas Diocese, episcopate, General Catholic, persecution, priests, scandals, secularism, self-serving, sickness, Society.
I was reading some more in Goodbye, Good Men over the weekend, and I read some accounts of persecution of orthodox young men in seminaries that correlated closely to some of my own experience. In particular, it seems common to assign orthodox young priests to parishes that have more liberal pastors. According to Goodbye, Good Men, this process is widespread and starts at the beginning of seminary formation:
One priest says of his seminary days: “It seems like they wanted to break us of any ‘romantic notions’ we may have had of how Mass ought to be offered.” And, he observed, this continues after ordination when, it seems, young orthodox priests are placed in parishes with liberal pastors who still fancy 1970s-style liturgical experimentation. [I've certainly seen that here locally. More than one - several, in fact - orthodox young priests seem to invariably wind up being assigned to the same parishes with well-earned reputations for liberalism, sometimes extreme. They rarely seem to be assigned to those parishes with reputations for orthodoxy, although it does happen occasionally. Coincidence?]
“Another sad part of the formation staff,” said a former student of Mundelein seminary in Chicago, “is their constant scrutiny over how we pray. If a student bows before Communion, it is filed against him as ‘an obsession with the Real Presence.’ Since we don’t kneel at the Consecration, [another former seminarian related that at Mundelein in the 90s, faculty prohibited the seminarians from kneeling during the Consecration or receiving the Blessed Sacrament on the tongue. That is some sick repression] anyone who chooses to kneel after Communion is observed and remembered. Outward acts of piety are usually challenged. Often, the formation faculty equates piety with rigidity, always followed by an analysis of repressed sexual problems.” [Problems which in reality do not exist. But as I will show in the following post, psychological "counseling," or, in reality, mind-bending brainwashing and mental persecution, is a common form of punishment for the orthodox in seminaries, or at least used to be. I think it's still extant, just more low key now]
[Another man who was ordained for the Diocese of Pittsburgh noted]: “There are always ways to break the orthodox young man,” he explained: “for instance, if he has a spiritual year or a pastoral year serving in a parish, he may well be assigned to a pastor who is very liberal and consequently abuses the Liturgy. Even if he gets ordained the process continues; he may continue to be assigned only to serve liberal pastors until he has forgotten any liturgical ideals, i.e., legitimate practices, he may have had about the Liturgy he may have originally wanted to follow.”
I had actually wondered to myself for quite some time whether this phenomenon was just in my head or if it was real. I would see that various young priests seemed to wind up in very similar places, almost invariably. I tended to doubt assigning young priests was done scientifically, but I didn’t know if maybe I was reading something into the situation due to my own biases. It seems that I was right all along.
This was written over 10 years ago, and I keep hearing, apocryphally, that things are “better.” I pray they truly are.
Fisher-More denied ability to offer TLM March 3, 2014Posted by tantamergo in Admin, Basics, Dallas Diocese, disaster, episcopate, error, General Catholic, Latin Mass, persecution, sadness, scandals, self-serving, SSPX.
Some commenters already brought this up in another post, but Rorate has a screaming headline concerning Fisher-More College in Ft. Worth, and some decision by the Diocese of Fort Worth to deny Fisher-More the ability to have the Traditional Latin Mass on campus.
You guys know how much I respect Rorate. But I think in this case their zeal for the TLM, and perhaps a less than full understanding of the situation, may have skewed their coverage a bit.
As commenter Skeinster noted, there are problems at Fisher-More. Problems so severe, I privately regretted having supported their fundraising drive last fall (I had heard inklings at the time I gave that support, but came to know much, much more shortly thereafter).
A lot of people who live outside Texas, and even many within the state who reside outside the Metroplex, do not know how close together Dallas and Fort Worth are. It’s only about a half hour drive from downtown Dallas to downtown Fort Worth. As such, our local Traditional Latin Mass community shares a lot of people between the two cities. And, the priests of our FSSP parish provide a TLM in the Fort Worth Diocese on Sundays. Some priests from our parish have taught classes at Fisher-More.
But they have stopped doing so. In fact, many long-time faculty have left Fisher-More. This is not solely related to their financial woes. In fact, it has to do with really severe problems with the college’s administration, and in particular, the college president Michael King referenced.
I know many exceedingly good traditional Catholic families who have (or, I should stress, had) children at Fisher-More. I know some folks who have taught there. I know some who are still employed there. All are unfailingly stalwart supporters of the great Tradition of our Faith and all recognize the hideous crisis now afflicting the Church. But many – most – have increasingly grave concerns regarding Fisher-More and especially the direction Michael King is taking the college. Well-known traditional Catholic academic Taylor Marshall left Fisher-More last summer over these same concerns.
These concerns center on Mr. King taking an increasingly severe stand regarding the Council and the changes that have occurred in the Church in the past 50 years. I am not privy to all the details – perhaps some of those who are could chime in – but the level of excoriation for the Church and Her leaders has reached a state that even many good, traditional Catholics are scandalized by the rhetoric. And, from what I have been told by many, no dissent from Mr. King’s “direction” is tolerated. Those that voice doubts or express concerns are dismissed, virtually on the spot. This applies to both faculty and staff. As such, the college has lost many longtime faculty and administrators and even the college’s founder has been sidelined. Again, I have had all this confirmed to me by numerous sources. Many students – very solid, traditional Catholic students – have left the university as it seems to be heading towards such extremism the students fear scandal if they continue their studies.
In addition, many parents feel that they are being told one story by the administration (Mr. King), but that the reality is something quite different. Many parents feel misled.
I’m not saying Bishop Olson’s solution is fully appropriate or justifiable. It seems severe. And naturally, it was aimed at the TLM. If this was absolutely necessary and the ONLY way Bishop Olson thought he could solve the problems at Fisher-More, he should have explained why his action in that regard was uniquely necessary. He should also explained under what authority he, as a bishop, managed to undo a papal act liberalizing the availability of the TLM. Bishop Olson has now caused some degree of scandal among the faithful, who feel their rights trampled upon.
After Bishop Vann departed, the vicar general of Fort Worth had already restricted the TLM at Fisher-More. It could be Bishop Olson followed the recommendations of his staff, some of which probably aren’t too fond of having a traditional Catholic college in their diocese. And even if this act is intended to be some charitable attempt to recall a wayward sheep, it does seem harsh and uncharitable towards students and others at Fisher-More who have come to depend upon the TLM. Fisher-More was an attempt to build a traditional Catholic college, but without the TLM either on campus or immediately available on a daily basis, it would seem one of the prime reasons for the college’s existence was just wiped out. Close as Dallas and Fort Worth are, asking college students to drive 60 miles round trip every day to assist at the TLM in Irving is a bit much.
I also think it was an unfortunately clumsy statement – a truly foolhardy statement – to associate removal of the TLM with “the good of your own soul.” I think folks are reading a connection there that may not be intended, but it’s too easily made by this very brief, very unspecific document.
Nevertheless, there has been growing concern locally both over King’s draconian style of administration and his seeming desire to make Fisher-More an informal (or formal, who knows?) appendage of the Society of St. Pius X. That may not be King’s intent, but it is the impression many have. In addition, I am told that even though they managed to stay open this spring, Fisher-More’s finances are a wreck and the college is living on borrowed time. These issues may seem unrelated, but they are not. In fact, they are tightly intertwined. That’s all I’ll say about that.
So, make up your own mind. Hopefully we’ll get some more details in the comments from those close to Fisher-More.
UPDATE: I’m shutting down comments since I cannot monitor overnight. I think this has been talked about enough.
Now is a time for serious prayers………. March 1, 2014Posted by tantamergo in Basics, disaster, episcopate, error, foolishness, General Catholic, persecution, sickness, Society.
………….I know I say that a lot, but this thing in the Ukraine/Crimea has all the makings of something really ugly. I don’t mean just for the poor Ukrainians, I mean something far, far broader.
Does the US/Britain have a treaty with the Ukraine to intervene militarily if Russia invades them? Apparently, such a promise was made under Clinton in 1994 in order to get Ukraine to get rid of their nukes, but it is unclear if it is a true, ratified treaty.
If it is……..yikes. Russia cannot let Ukraine go NATO, which the Ukrainians want very badly, and understandably so. With Ukraine in NATO, Russia would have an enemy on both flanks of the only part of Russia that matters – European
Russia. They would have no strategic depth, a prime Russian imperative going back 300 years. They would feel exceedingly vulnerable. A key factor that won the war for Stalin back in WWII was the Soviet Union’s enormous expanse and inverse funnel effect (look at a map, entering Russia from the West, you’re on an 800 mile front, by the time you get to a line from Arkangelsk to Arakan you’re on a front twice as long). With the Baltics and Ukraine in NATO, Russia – one of the most paranoid countries on earth – would feel vulnerable to north-south pincers meeting at some point about 100 miles east of Nizhny Novgorod. It would almost completely eliminate Russia’s geographic advantage. Even more, some of Russia’s most important gas pipelines – their largest source of external revenue -pass through the Ukraine, and the Ukraine sits immediately adjacent to one of Russia’s most oil-rich area, the Caucasus.
Not that I think Obama would honor any treaty that he didn’t feel benefited him and his leftist cohort directly, let alone one that could bring a fight with Russia. But this guy, and his entire crew (especially frankenface Lurch Kerry) of foreign policy boneheads, could just blunder into some disaster.
That’s what I worry about. Putin will probably play Obama like a violin and the poor Ukrainians made to suffer horribly yet again, but who knows what may happen with this neophyte dilettante ackjass.
This might be a real good intention for your Holy Face devotions.
God bless you!
PS – This is why I used to advocate until I was blue in the face that the US build up our current national missile defense system to at least 500 interceptors (instead, we have about 50), because Russia probably doesn’t even have 500 working, deliverable nuclear warheads. Or didn’t, until the last few years, Putin has managed to reconstitute the Russian strategic nuclear arsenal pretty well. Instead of fighting pointless wars overseas, we could have been building a defense at home capable of saving tens of millions of lives. Uff da……