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Dear Lord, Life Site News posted yesterday an exchange between Archbishop Sanchez Sorondo, Chancellor of the Pontifical Academies of Science, and the large pro-family group C-FAM. C-FAM queried him, in very polite terms, about the scandal of having major pro-abort activists being given a platform to spread their diabolical errors at the recent Vatican conference on so-called climate change. His responses were incredibly hostile and dismissive. I mean, he doesn’t even try to hide his enormous bias or the fact that he’s very much on the progressive side of things, he simply chided and rebuked C-FAM for every mild criticism they raised. Get a load of this (questions from C-Fam in bold, I add comments):
Q. Were you aware before your collaboration with Sachs at the Vatican of his public position on abortion in the book “Commonwealth”, where he says abortion is a “low-cost” and “low-risk” intervention to reduce fertility in the event that contraceptives fail?
Sánchez Sorondo (S.S.) I’ve just come back from Argentina, where I attended a conference to combat new forms of slavery, like human trafficking, forced labor, prostitution, and organ trafficking, which I consider, together with Pope Francis and Pope Benedict, to be a crime against humanity. Unfortunately, there is not only the drama of abortion, but there are also all these other dramas, in which you should also be interested, because they are closely related. The climate crisis leads to poverty and poverty leads to new forms of slavery and forced migration, and drugs, and all this can also lead to abortion. [Note, he didn’t even remotely answer the question, he simply changed the subject. Certainly human trafficking is a huge concern and is most rampant in muslim nations (why don’t the Archbishop use his voice to chide muslims on that?!?) but it has no relation to “climate change.” But it gets worse…..]
Q. Several Catholic intellectuals and media sources criticized your decision to collaborate with Ban Ki-moon and Jeffrey Sachs on climate change, because of their positions on abortion and population control. Do you have any reply to these concerns?
S.S. The Tea Party and all those whose income derives from oil have criticized us, but not my superiors, who instead authorized me, and several of them participated. [Oh come on! My income doesn’t derive from oil, you petulant snot, and I’ve just been one of thousands, if not millions, scandalized by this biased watermelon festival. Give me a break!]
Q. Undoubtedly, you discussed Ban Ki-moon’s and Jeffrey Sachs’ position on abortion and population control in the lead up to the conference. How were any questions resolved?
S.S. Yes. We had these discussions, and as you can see, the draft SDGs (Sustainable Development Goals) don’t even mention abortion or population control. They speak of access to family planning and sexual and reproductive health and reproductive rights. The interpretation and application of these depends on governments. Some may even interpret it as Paul VI, in terms of responsible paternity and maternity. Instead of attacking us, why not enter into dialogue with these “demons” to maybe make the formulation better, like we did on the issues of social inclusion and new forms of slavery? [Now just wait a minute. This is diabolical. In every Western country including all of Latin America, “family planning and sexual and reproductive health and reproductive rights” are synonymous with contraception and abortion. This is diabolical in the use of code language to communicate to what I have to assume was the intended audience – the radical sexular pagan enviro-left – that the Vatican, or at least this conference, is on board with their agenda, while leaving some wiggle room to say “oh, we didn’t endorse abortion,” even while they had huge pro-aborts speaking for this conference all over the place. Don’t you like how they’re trying to drag Humanae Vitae back into this, as well? “Responsible parenthood” means, according to Pope Francis, “3 kids is about right,” and contraception is back on the table. I also like how he tries to chide C-Fam for being critical, asking why they didn’t join in the process? The reason they didn’t is because they couldn’t, they weren’t invited, and even more, any noted pro-life pro-family “conservative” groups were blocked from entering the conference!]
Q. Critics of this collaboration lament how Catholics and non-Catholics alike may be confused about participating, even remotely, in the grave moral errors that Ban Ki-moon and Jeffrey Sachs promote. At the same time, Ban Ki-moon and Jeffrey Sachs have derived great benefit from their participation, confirmed in the enthusiastic media coverage of the conference, which may in turn also raise a lot of interest for Pope Francis’ new encyclical on the environment.
S.S. We are happy that Ban Ki-moon and Jeffrey Sachs have accepted the theory on climate that the Academy has maintained for thirty years, namely, that human activity based on fossil fuels determines climate. [Based on what?!? Global temperatures have not increased in 20 years even as carbon emissions have greatly increased! This is a conclusion looking for evidence, and a perversion of science.] The members of the Academy have defined this “anthropic climate” or “anthropocene,” chief among them being Nobel Prize winners Paul Crutzen and Mario Molina. You should also be happy, because the consequences of climate change fall especially on the poor, and this also puts them in situations where they then accept abortion. [He is here directly reiterating Sachs’ claim at the conference, and simply espousing left wing talking points with essentially no basis. If you make fossil fuels vastly more expensive, that’s going to put great pressure on the poorest to abort, not “climate change.”] Moreover, we are happy that Ban Ki-moon and Jeffrey Sachs have accepted to modify the proposals on social inclusion by adding new forms of slavery such as human trafficking, forced labor, prostitution, and organ trafficking, which were not even present in the last drafts. You should be happy about this too, because if there is anything that threatens the family, of which you call your self a supporter, it is prostitution, which Pope Benedict called an absolute evil precisely because it destroys the cell of social order. [His words drip with venomous derision. This man is a snake]
Q. The Declaration on climate change that was released after the conference unequivocally assigns responsibility for climate change to human activity. Is this a position that is shared by pope Francis?
S.S. This I do not know. But I suppose yes, because he would not write an encyclical just to say that man is responsible for the Earth but that everything is fine! Perhaps, you believe, like those who live off oil, that everything is fine? [This is how a Vatican prelate speaks? With the baiting emotion-laden language of the left? “You’re not one of those evil oil profiteers, are you?” I’ve never read or heard anything about this guy before, but he comes across as a thug in cassock.] The Academy says otherwise, as do all the rest of scientific academies in the world. Only a few scientists paid by lobby groups opine differently. [This is a wicked and unsubstantiated calumny. This is utterly beneath the dignity of an archbishop. Note his entire argument is this: climate change is happening, because we say it is, and how dare you say anything different! Now just shut up!]
There is a bit more at Life Site News. I’m sorry for abusing fair use, but this is so incredibly revealing I felt it had to be shared.
This guy was promoted to his position 17 years ago by Pope JPII. He has written very extensively. It seems he started out perhaps a bit progressive with occasional orthodox positions thrown in. But he seems to have tacked hard left since……surprise!………March 2013. Gee……I wonder what happened then that could have precipitated a sudden shift?
Geez……..if this is any confirmation of the kinds of attitudes percolating at the Vatican over the past 2 years, things are going to get out of hand very quickly. Then again, many would argue they already have.
Here’s a question……how much money has the Vatican/Church been promised for their climate change advocacy? I don’t think that’s an unfair question, things like this don’t just “happen,” there is almost always money involved.
UPDATE: Sheesh, how blind do you have to be to leave a comment like this (I paraphrase):
I think I see the hand of the Holy Ghost here. These bad bishops have always been in the Church, but Pope Francis is really encouraging them to come into the open. I’m sure he’s just giving them enough rope to hang themselves, and that Pope Francis will squash them soon.
My mouth hangs agape. And yet such willful blindness is everywhere. This is not just withholding judgment. This is self-delusion.
Posted by Tantumblogo in abdication of duty, Christendom, disaster, Ecumenism, episcopate, error, foolishness, General Catholic, horror, Papa, priests, scandals, secularism, self-serving, Society, the return, the struggle for the Church.
A commenter in my previous post already noted this, but I thought this a sufficiently huge topic to break it out into another post. That article I linked to that examined more details of the Pew religious attitudes survey goes on to paint a really bleak picture of the future of the Church. Based on present trends, and assuming they arrive at some equilibrium point in the future (and discounting certain factors like immigration), the author estimates the Catholic Church will wind up with only 6% of the total population of the US at some indeterminate future point (I did not see the article declare when this would happen, but I would guess, based on present trends, within 50-80 years – i.e., within the lifetime of my children). This data shows the Church has already essentially reached a point of near-total collapse, and is only coasting on the 59% of her prior membership who hasn’t left the Church for a sect or complete religious apathy. Once this generation dies out, the Church will be smaller, percentage-wise, than it has been since the early 1800s in this country (you have to go to the link for the tabular data, since its embedded in their html code for the article):
If conversions went on as they do today and all other factors were held steady, America would wind up with the religious demographics of the stable distribution.
Unaffiliateds would wind up modestly gaining ground (from 23 percent at present to 29 percent). And Christian denominations would drop a little (from 69 percent at present to 62 percent at equilibrium).
But there would be substantial redistribution among Christian groups, with evangelical Protestants gaining (26 percent at present to 32 percent) and Catholics losing more than half their current share of the population (21 percent to 8 percent).
Why do evangelicals wind up ahead of other Christian sects in this model? They’re better at holding on to the people born into their tradition (65 percent retention compared to 59 percent for Catholics and 45 percent for Mainline Protestants), and they’re a stronger attractor for people leaving other faiths. According to Pew’s data on conversion rates, 10 percent of people raised Catholic wind up as evangelicals. Just 2 percent of people born as evangelicals wind up Catholic. The flow between mainline and evangelical Protestants is also tilted in evangelicals’ favor. Twelve percent of those raised evangelical wind up in mainline congregations, but 19 percent of mainline Protestants wind up becoming evangelical.
This data only confirms what most of us already know: a very large number of people leaving the Catholic Church in this country (as well as many others) do so because they are spiritually starved, tired of being fed baby food and pablum in the form of happy-clappy liturgies and never-offending, never-challenging “catechesis.” And in my personal experience, it is these people who have already made up their minds that the Church has nothing to offer them that are the most resistant to any propagandizing in the name of the Faith. They have tried Catholicism, found it grossly wanting, and will not be back. Former Catholics, in point of fact, make up over HALF the growth seen in the evangelical sects – and, again, data from other countries shows that the situation is even worse there.
This data also shows it not just cultural changes that have been responsible for the destruction of the Faith in the lives of millions of souls. Some groups are growing quite rapidly, as are traditional Catholic communities. It is the banal, heck, spiritually dead product of Novus Ordo land – with its worldly focus, left-wing political bent, and its grave fear that it never, ever, offend anyone (except true believers) – that is driving souls from the Church en masse.
Just a few caveats: like all projections, this one is based on a limited data set, ignores important factors like immigration (little wonder bishops stress it so much, they probably have access to a lot better data than this), and is predicated on things staying just as they have. In fact, with regard to whatever positive growth areas it sees, I tend to imagine those are going to be under heavy stress as the prevailing culture becomes increasingly pagan and anti-Christian. Once being visibly, publicly Christian (of any type) starts to carry a heavy cultural cost, the numbers could become much worse than they show above.
Nevertheless, the data above shows the Church in a uniquely bad position. The Church is being accursed by low rates of retention of those born into her, the highest rates of flight out, very low rate of conversion, and, finally and most momentously, a very low birth rate for those within. That is why, cumulatively, the Catholic Church, based on the data above, may suffer an even greater collapse than the mainline protestant sects. Given how much those have imploded, that is beyond depressing, but, then again, when you model your corporate institution on a bad copy of an already failing one (mainline protestantism), should one be surprised that it fares even worse than the original? Especially when moderately well-formed Catholics can simply look to the recent past and say: “These things are not the same?”
So, the new evangelization has either massively failed, or succeeded beyond a modernist’s greatest hopes and dreams, depending on how you look at it.
I’ll be blunt – the Church is being bled white by doctrinal indifference (and chaos), left-leaning politics, and managerial incompetence. The Church in this country as it exists today is likely to be a shadow of its former self in a few decades. Heck, it already is, but the process is only going to accelerate. And the thing is, many leaders in the Church, up to and including the past several Popes, are apparently fine with this. They are so taken in by the (I’ll say it) demonic lie of ecumenism that they probably see the collapse of the Catholic Faith as an OK thing, so long as it doesn’t happen too much in their diocese, and their finances remain OK. Which of the last several pontiffs has repeatedly presented a cogent explanation to the souls in their charge (that is, the entire world) why they must either remain, or become, Catholic? I seriously question whether our present Pope Francis would agree with the statement: “I undeniably did the right thing, and immeasurably increased my chances for salvation, in becoming Catholic).”
These men have been so taken in by their blind adherence to the ecumenical indifferentist modernist socialist materialist philosophy that they are allowing – no, encouraging, forcing – the Church to rapidly die on their watch. This is a tragedy of biblical proportions and almost forces me to conclude that we have to be well into the end times in order to comprehend their behavior and the death of faith in the hierarchy. As a local priest says, we are now deep into the passion of the Church, a passion prophesied by St. Paul, St. John, and others. Pope Saint Pius X, the last great Pontiff the Church has had (over 100 years ago), concerned over the perversion of so many priests and bishops he saw in HIS time (God was merciful to let him live and die when he did), wondered:
“whether such a perversion of minds is not the sign announcing, and the beginning of, the last times, and that the Son of Perdition spoken of by the Apostle (II Thess II:3) might already be living on this earth.”
And of course we know that Pope Leo XIII – who some consider to have been quite liberal compared to his predecessors – had a vision of satan being unleashed on the Church for 100 years in 1884. That doesn’t mean satan was unleashed then, it just means the vision happened then.
So sad……if this is not the end times, future historians will have to look on the Church from 1958 – ??? as the greatest mass suicide of an incredibly large, influential, and resilient cultural institution ever.
Yeah, I knew this post would get long with my ranting – there is so darned much to rant about – that’s why I did two posts on this subject. Do go to the link, there is more analysis and data there.
Posted by Tantumblogo in abdication of duty, Basics, disaster, episcopate, error, foolishness, General Catholic, horror, paganism, Papa, priests, scandals, secularism, self-serving, Society, the return, the struggle for the Church.
I found a post that digs a little deeper into the Pew religious attitudes survey I covered last week. The news, if anything, is even more bleak for Catholics. I reported last week that the percentage of self-identified Christians had fallen by about 15% – that 15% of the overall population, whereas a few years ago 85% of Americans self-identified as Christians, only 70% do today.
But now for the really bad news – it seems that of that 15% drop, nearly 3/4 of it has to do with Catholics falling away from the Church. Whereas nearly 1/3 of people surveyed responded they had been raised Catholic, only 21% now self-identify as Catholic (and what tiny fragment of those actually accept all the dogmatic beliefs of the Church? That in itself is a puny fraction).
O Glorious new evangelization, will your wonders every cease?!?
Look at those dismal, pathetic numbers! Which religious body has experienced the single largest hemorrhage of members? The Catholic Church. Which one has experienced the second smallest rate of conversion of new members into it? The Catholic Church, and the only one with a smaller influx are the historically black congregations, which are infinitesimal in comparison to the size of the Church, and yet, and YET – the difference is paltry. Relative to its overall size, the Catholic Church makes fewer converts than every other group identified above, and by a factor of at least 2-3, if not more.
And mind you, this is even with three decades of basically unconstrained (and morally dubious) illegal immigration from predominately Catholic countries! Without that influx the numbers would be even more pathetic, to the extent that it is quite possible that former Catholics would outnumber Catholics without it. No wonder the bishops are so irrefutably wedded to mass immigration no matter how many families are broken up, lives are ruined, how much economic damage it inflicts both here and in the countries suffering mass emigration, or how many Americans lose their jobs to low-paid illegal immigrants – it’s the prime, and quite possibly sole factor keeping their dioceses, by and large, somewhat afloat.
But here is the really important question – is this collapse simply the accidental result of the implementation of disastrously destructive post-conciliar novelties, or is it by design? Were those policies implemented in the sure and certain knowledge they would leave the Church prostrate?
We’ll likely never know the answer in this life, and I imagine it features a good deal of both, but either way, the entire “new evangelization” of soft liberalism, moral decadence, and catechetical chaos has resulted in the total implosion of the Faith in this country and many others around the world. If anything, this country remains a relative bastion of a stalwart faith in this hemisphere and in comparison to all of Europe, as surveys show an even greater collapse in the practice of the Faith in Latin America and virtually every European country. I am by no means a professional historian, but I’ve read far more than my share of Church history, and never in the history of the Church has their been such an across the board implosion of virtually every measure of the vitality of the Church as their has been in the past 50 years. Modernist ideologues, congratulations, I imagine you have succeeded beyond even your wildest dreams.
So….what next? The human leadership of the Church seems to have vehemently rejected even the mild restoration efforts of Pope Benedict in favor of the continued advance of the radical humanism and reflexive leftism of the immediate post-conciliar period. Hey, the political leaders demand it, the culture seems to be rushing headlong into the kind of barbaric paganism not seen in the West in a thousand years or more, and since the final collapse probably won’t happen on a particular bishop’s watch, why not just go along for the ride? Even more, a large majority of Church leaders remain so blinded by ideology that even if they cared about the fate of souls and the material state of the Church, they would be highly disinclined to do anything, anyways. For them, this is the realization of the vision of the left-wing anointed, and nothing will prevent them from seeing their ideological triumph set in stone, souls be damned (and they will).
Lord have mercy on us. We have surely failed in our prayers and penance to deserve prelates such as these. Have mercy on us and send us those we so desperately need, true shepherds of souls who know their sole duty is to save every soul they are given charge over, and who will make no compromises in that effort.
St. Augustine, St. Athanasius, St. Alphonsus Marie de Liguori, St. Robert Bellarmine, St. Charles Borromeo, St. Isidore of Seville, St. John Chrysostom, St. Peter Chrysologous, St. Hilary of Poitiers, St. John Fisher, St. Andrew Corsini, St. Anselm, St. Peter Damian, St. Cyprian of Carthage, St. Cyril of Jerusalem, St. Peter and all the Apostles……..pray for us and our bishops! May your prayers for them work miracles of conversion that will result in all of our bishops emulating your superior piety and virtue in every respect!
Posted by Tantumblogo in Abortion, contraception, disaster, episcopate, error, family, General Catholic, horror, scandals, secularism, self-serving, sexual depravity, sickness, Society.
Hmmm….what do you make of this video below, where young children (say, maybe, 4-11?) are asked about abortion? On the one hand, I think it is a pretty powerful piece against this unspeakable evil, but on the other hand, part of me recoils at seeing children 1) asked about abortion in this kind of setting, and 2) used, in a manner of speaking, to further this surely noble cause. I pray God those children really had been delicately introduced to this subject by their parents and formed into comprehending what abortion is. My wife and I have certainly done so, and I am absolutely not a parent who thinks children mustn’t know about such things. In fact, since we spend a good amount of times outside mills with our children, they got introduced to the subject at a pretty young age, but it was my wife and I doing the introducing, and we judged how far to go and what was an appropriate level of knowledge for each child.
From the video, I am far from certain that was the case here. It seems more like children were being introduced into this very uncomfortable and really ghastly subject for the first time. That could potentially cause some avoidable trauma. I don’t know anything about the organization that put this on, other than that it appears to be one of the many protestant abortion abolitionist groups that have sprouted up in the last several years, railing against the fact that the “church” (meaning the sects) hasn’t been speaking out against abortion. And that’s true, they haven’t, but, hello, even though our own Church hasn’t done enough to oppose abortion in this and many other nations in the wake of the most awesomest Council ever that you will never, ever question in any depth to avoid exposing its internal contradictions, Catholics have been the heart and soul of the pro-life movement since it started. So it always makes me get a sardonic smile when I see johnny-come-lately protestants say “goodness, where is the ‘church’ in this terrible evil we see?!?” We’ve been there, folks, welcome to the fight, stop acting like you invented opposition to abortion.
I’ll stop ranting incoherently and get to the video:
It is always heartening to see the innocence that lives in children. Their answers are so direct and honest. It is only when we get older that we begin to allow satan and our fallen natures to convince us that up is down, right is wrong, and killing defenseless children OK. It is amazing what lies and evil people can convince themselves of. I’ve been there, I speak from experience.
I have been accosted a few times by women – it is always women – in cars driving past our vigil outside mills with a child or two in their car. I’ve had them pull up next to us and shout how terrible and evil we are to try to stop mothers from killing their babies. Strange motivation, to be sure, to defend abortion with your child in the car with you.
I’ve been tempted at times to just look at the child and tell them……why don’t you ask your mommy what they do in this place and why she thinks it is so good? Of course, I never have. Even though I am completely, unalterably opposed to anyone who supports abortion even slightly, I don’t want to traumatize a child with the knowledge that mommy maybe killed her older sister, or thinks some kids, at least, are disposable objects to be thrown away when inconvenient. How would you handle that situation? Or maybe you already have……..let me know.
Posted by Tantumblogo in Abortion, Basics, contraception, demographics, disaster, error, Four Last Things, General Catholic, horror, paganism, scandals, secularism, self-serving, shocking, sickness, Society, Spiritual Warfare, unadulterated evil.
And more than that, a judge just overruled doctors in the case of a demented elderly woman whose family claimed she wanted to die, but whose doctors said she was incompetent to make such a decision. So now the precedent has been set for the state directly deciding who lives and who dies.
Life is sure cheap in a sexular pagan paradise, is it not?
A judge in Holland has ordered the euthanasia of an 80-year-old woman after doctors tried to prevent her family from having her killed. [I’m sorry, but I’m going to throw a bit of hardline skepticism in here. Evil laws permitting things like euthanasia always assume everyone is always virtuous and just carrying out someone’s (twisted) wishes, or easing someone’s suffering, but in how many cases are unscrupulous children offing their parents to get to the inheritance, or get rid of the old nag, or hospital admins from having to lose money on “someone who’s going to die anyway.” There are so many ways for people to use this as a means to commit murder for the most prurient reasons with state sanction and legality]
Doctors serving the Ter Reede dementia specialist care home in Flushing argued that she was not mentally capable of consenting to death by lethal injection.
But for the first time in 13 years of legal euthanasia in the Netherlands, a court over-ruled the doctors’ wishes and ordered that the euthanasia went ahead.
The woman’s family, who live in Middelburg, claimed that she harboured a ‘death wish’ and obtained a court order so she could die by euthanasia. [But this was apparently not documented well, or at all.
A judge sitting in an ‘emergency session’ in Utrecht then threw out an appeal from medical staff treating the woman.
A day later she was taken from the care home and killed by the Life End Clinic, which was set up with the aim of making euthanasia more easily accessible in the Netherlands….. [So that’s it, one appeal, and the next day you’re dead?!? What a robust system they have there!]
The woman’s GP, the management of the care home and its psychologist were all equally opposed to plans to kill her by euthanasia and they had asked for an independent report into her condition…….
……A woman in her 80s was killed last year simply because she did not want to live in a care home……
…….Overall, deaths by euthanasia, which officially account for three per cent of all deaths in the Netherlands, have increased by 151 per cent in just seven years.
The figures, however, do not include cases of so-called terminal sedation, where patients are given a cocktail of sedatives and narcotics before food and fluids are withdrawn. [The preferred method of putting patients down in US hospitals, with or without family or patient consent. It’s murder on the QT]
Studies suggest that if such deaths were added to the figure then euthanasia would account for one in eight – about 12.3 per cent – of all deaths in the Netherlands. [And would probably be one of the leading, if not the leading, causes of death in the Netherlands?]
Doctors in neighbouring Belgium, which last year legalised euthanasia for children, are now killing an average of five people every day by euthanasia, according to latest figures, with a 27 per cent surge in the number of euthanasia deaths in the last year alone.
In one of the most shocking cases, a Brussels man last week described how he arranged the double euthanasia of his octogenarian parents who wanted to die because they were afraid of loneliness.
I can’t advise people enough to get a lawyer and draw up very clearly what kind of treatment you expect if you are incapacitated in any way. Don’t rely on anyone else, even your own children, to follow your wishes without clear, legally-actionable guidance. Make sure you never, ever get a “living will” or any kind of advance directive from standard boilerplate, instead draw up a document saying you want all reasonable care, food and hydration, and even “heroic means” to keep you alive. Absolutely say no to organ transplantation, and remember, you have to positively opt out of that now, the state now assumes the default answer is “yes” (and how typical of all progressive causes – what was once optional now becomes default, and will soon be mandatory).
For over 100 years, discerning souls have predicted that wealthy, advanced, liberal nations in Europe and North America had become so amoral – it was apparent even then – that it would not be long before they had become so thoroughly imbued with satanic materialistic, utilitarian thinking that they would even start to kill their own children, disabled, and elderly persons. Anyone who didn’t “pull their weight” or who was a “drag on progress” would be killed. Mind, this isn’t the “bad guys,” the Hitlerites or commies……it’s us, who always tell ourselves we’re the “good guys.” Please. We have so offended God, any punishment at this point is easily conceivable.
Note it started with pre-born babies. Then it was the disabled and elderly. How long before it’s literally a Brave New World and everyone gets killed at 60 or some arbitrary number? How could anyone laugh at such a prediction, judging from what’s already been normalized and legalized?
Virtually no one believes in redemptive suffering or the difficulty of this life anymore. No one looks forward to Heaven as our true home where the good will go after a life of suffering and virtue. Everyone (more or less) thinks this life is the only one, and to the extent Heaven exists, it’s just a replay of this life on some cosmic scale, with the focus certainly NOT being on God.
This is the time when darkness reigns. Pray for these souls who murder others, and who ask to be murdered. It seems inescapable that they will have a most unpleasant experience at their particular judgment.
Posted by Tantumblogo in abdication of duty, asshatery, Basics, disaster, episcopate, error, foolishness, General Catholic, horror, paganism, pr stunts, scandals, secularism, self-serving, Society, the struggle for the Church.
Via The Remnant, yet another occasion of a prelate jumping on the bandwagon of perversion, perhaps with more than a little bit of self-interest mixed in, Bishop Juan Vicente Cordoba of Colombia has declared that “being homosexual is no sin,” and that it’s possible one of the Twelve Apostles or even Saint Mary Magdalene was so afflicted! This is nothing but the coarsest, most craven pandering to a gross perversion, and a grave scandal:
“A Colombian bishop, insisting that being homosexual is not a sin, said Thursday it’s possible that one of the twelve apostles of Jesus was gay or that Mary Magdalene, another key New Testament figure, was a lesbian. [This seems deliberately provocative.]
“Bishop Juan Vicente Córdoba of Fontibón, Colombia, also said the Catholic Church does not oppose same-sex couples making a life together, [Such a situation would be intrinsically disordered and a huge temptation to sin. I think any decent moral theologian would argue strongly against even a celibate arrangement due to the potential for scandal and the temptation to fall into sin, just as men and women should not live together as “friends,” due to the great temptation that could arise] but does not consider such arrangements to be a marriage or a family. ‘No one chooses to be gay or straight,’ Córdoba said. ‘One simply feels, loves, experiments, is attracted, and no attraction is bad.’ [There is absolutely zero, not one scintilla, of evidence that indicates those with same-sex attraction are “born that way.” In fact, the evidence is almost all in the other direction, that same-sex attraction arises from environment and upbringing]
“Córdoba was speaking at a conference about gay marriage and adoption hosted by the local University of Los Andes, at a time when Colombia is debating gay marriage and adoption rights
. [So this was a most political statement]
Although Córdoba reiterated Church teaching when it comes to marriage – that it’s a union between a man and a woman, permanent, and open to children – he said that homosexuality isn’t a sin. [Wrong. He has since walked back this particular statement, made in front of a crowd of those poor souls lost in these sins and their allies. See below, the retraction is equally craven and self-serving]“Sin is something else. It’s not respecting the dignity of others. Not loving God and our neighbors as we love ourselves, not feeding the hungry, not giving water to the thirsty,” Córdoba said. [Nothing but leftism. Things that leftist agitate for – more money for the “poor” (meaning government), failing in social virtues – those can still be sins. But since the left is 100% committed to sexual libertinism of the worst kind, those are no longer sins. Basically, whatever they say goes, as always. Gotcha.]
He added that he prefers “a thousand times over” for Colombians to have dignity, a proper health system and food for all, rather than talking about whether they’re gay or straight. [As I said. Sins are collective failures and opposition to leftism, not personal, private matters between a man and God]
According to local reports, Córdoba said that in the Bible there’s no explicit rejection of homosexuality, suggesting there’s no basis for making a condemnation of homosexuality a Church doctrine. [So the bishop is incredibly ignorant of Scripture in addition to being a left-wing ideologue. Swell, but hardly atypical.]
“We don’t know if one of Jesus’ disciples” had a same-sex orientation, he said. “We don’t know either if Mary Magdalene was a lesbian.”
OK, I said this spineless shepherd had walked back his comments before the pro-sodomy crowd, once others got wind of it. This man is sure not covering himself in glory, he comes across as a weasel:
Bishop Juan Vicente Córdoba of the Colombian diocese of Fontibón said Friday that he embraces the moral teachings of the Catholic Church when it comes to same-sex relationships.
“Even if homosexuality as an inclination doesn’t constitute a sin, it’s regarded as a disordered conduct,” he said.
Córdoba’s clarification, published by the Colombian Bishops Conference, came a day after he stated that homosexuality isn’t a sin and that “we don’t know if one of Jesus’ disciples” had a same-sex orientation…….[This is so weak. Maybe the Conference made him do it, not that I have any confidence in any bishop’s conference]
……..In the letter published Friday, Córdoba said that his words were not intended to modify the “solid and unchangeable moral position of the Church,” but to express respect in an auditorium which, according to the prelate, was mostly composed of leaders and members of the LGBT community. [No, you cravenly and in great cowardice failed to teach the Truth of Jesus Christ to a group of manifest grave sinners. You even justified and confirmed them in their sins, selling their souls to satan cheap as you preferred the applause of men to suffering for Jesus Christ. You are a failed shepherd, a wolf in sheep’s clothing who would rather send souls to hell than see himself inconvenienced. You are, quite frankly, the very model of the post-conciliar prelate]
The bishop also admitted that he didn’t know there were members of the press present at the event, and that he only used such colloquial expressions because of the academic and dialogic context of the encounter, adding that they had no theological or moral value. [Oh, please. What he means to say is, I didn’t know my heresy and scandal would be publicized! What a blessed flock the Church in Fontibon is to have a shepherd of this caliber, NOT]
“With a mother’s love, the Church welcomes every man and woman, whatever their condition, conscious that regardless of their sexual inclination – and even sexual behavior – every person has the same fundamental dignity,” Córdoba said.
Regardless of the controversy it may have generated, Córdoba said, Thursday’s encounter at the University of Los Andes was the first public encounter between a Colombian bishop and the LGBT community.
“It proves that it’s possible to establish an honest and frank dialogue that could allow us to bring down the walls and discover each other as brothers,” the bishop wrote in the letter.
THAT IS ABSOLUTE AND TOTAL BS! Bishop Cordoba didn’t “dialogue,” he cravenly said what his audience wanted to hear. He didn’t convey the Truth of Jesus Christ, he didn’t challenge them in their sins and command them to change as the shepherd responsible for their souls, no, he failed in his duty, gave a completely politicized speech full of what the audience wanted to hear, and he went on his merry way. Then he found out his talk was recorded and panicked. Now he’s trying to retrench and re-write history. What a poltroon.
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I posted yesterday some content on just a few of the problematic statements of Fr. Timothy Radcliffe, OP, just this past weekend (this Pope seems to have learned quite a bit from Obama – or Juan Peron – on how to manipulate the news cycle to one’s advantage) appointed to role of Consultor to the Pontifical Council for Peace and Justice, a long-time hot bed of dissent, abuse, and even open heresy. Radcliffe’s role of Consultor will get him a voting position at the upcoming Ordinary Synod on the family. Burke out, Radcliffe in. Means nothing, move along, nothing to see here, move along.
Via Vox Cantoris, some additional writings from Fr. Radcliffe, including his belief that sodomy is equivalent in “fertility” to natural relations between husband and wife (emphasis in original, I add comments):
Fr Radcliffe OP expands the meaning of fertility to include gay sex
But not every marriage is fertile in this way. We must avoid having a mechanistic or simplistic understanding of fertility. Jesus speaks a fertile word: This is my body, given for you. He is God’s fertile word. And surely it is in the kind and healing words that we offer each other that we all share in fertility of that most intimate moment. When Jesus met Peter on the shore after Easter, he offers him a word that renews their relationship. Three times he asks him; ‘Do you love me more than these others?’ He allows him to undo his threefold denial. Sexual fertility cannot be separated from the exchange of words that heal, that recreate and set free. [Just to be clear, Fr. Radcliffe is comparing Christ’s forgiveness of St. Peter with the words exchanged in the foul embrace of sodomites. I don’t think I have to comment on just how perverse that is]
How does all of this bear on the question of gay sexuality? We cannot begin with the question of whether it is permitted or forbidden! We must ask what it means, and how far it is Eucharistic. [Not even slightly, and no amount of modernist double-talk will make it so] Certainly it can be generous, vulnerable, tender, mutual and non-violent. [I point you again to this link, which discusses the sky-high rates of violence between same-sex partners. Sodomy, by its very nature, is an act of violence. It abuses the human body in ways that are unnatural and destructive. If you want to be grossed out, read about the incredibly disgusting after-products of sodomy – lube, blood, fecal matter, semen. Oh, yes, it’s so “vulnerable and tender.” That language, BTW, strikes me as being redolent of pederasty] So in many ways, I would think that it can be expressive of Christ’s self-gift. [The abomination of desolation, indeed. And this man was head of the Dominican order for 9 years.]
We can also see how it can be expressive of mutual fidelity, a covenantal relationship in which two people bind themselves to each other for ever. But the proposed legislation for ‘gay marriage’ imply that it is not understood to be inherently unitive, a becoming one flesh. […] [I’ll just repeat, even among so-called “married” individuals fallen into these perverted lusts, the idea of monogamy – especially for men – is almost completely foreign. Trysts with others are very common. This fact is kept as undercover as possible, because it (along with a thousand other things) obliterates the call for recognition of their “unions” as marriage.]
And what about fertility? I have suggested that one should not stick to a crude, mechanistic understanding of fertility. Biological fertility is inseparable from the fertility of our mutual tenderness and compassion. And so that might seem to remove one objection to gay marriage. I am not entirely convinced, since it seems to me that our tradition is incarnational, the word becoming bodily flesh. And some heterosexual relationships may be accidentally infertile in this sense, but homosexual ones are intrinsically so.
Sexual ethics is about what our acts say. And I have the impression that we are not very sure of what gay sexual acts signify. Maybe we need to ask gay Christians who have been living in committed relationships for years. I suspect that sex will turn out to be rather unimportant.’ [Which is why an overwhelming majority of those fallen into sodomy have over 100 lifetime partners, and only 4.5% report fidelity to their current partner?]
Fr Radcliffe on Holy Communion for Catholics who are divorced and re-married:
I would conclude with two profound hopes. That a way will be found to welcome divorced and remarried people back to communion. And, most important, that women will be given real authority and voice in the church. The pope expresses his desire that this may happen, but what concrete form can it take? He believes that the ordination of women to the ministerial priesthood is not possible, [Note the phrasing: “he believes……”…….but wait till we get a really radical Pope!] but decision-making in the church has become ever more closely linked to ordination in recent years. Can that bond be loosened? Let us hope that women may be ordained to the diaconate and so have a place in preaching at the Eucharist. What other ways can authority be shared?’ [Note also that the idea that women must be “given real authority in the Church” is just an assumed good, something “desirable.” On what basis? The entire college of disciples was male, this is something Christ Himself instituted, but, heck, if we can admit adulterers and attempted bigamists to Communion in spite of Christ’s command, why not just scrap all His other inconvenient (to leftists) commands?]
So, as time goes by, the reality of this pontificate and its nature becomes more and more clear.
Regarding this Radcliffe character, it’s been said that modernism was an attempt by liberal “Christians” to incorporate evolutionary theory (Darwinism) into their faith – but with the evolution always predominate. The real (main) religion of the modernists was scientific socialism and Darwinism. The neo-modernists of today are simply leftists who hold positions in the Church requiring a patina of Catholicism of them due to the nature of their position. Their primary religion is leftism.
I think if you will look at matters through that lens you will find that virtually all these “inexplicable” acts suddenly make a great deal of sense.
Dismas and others have been quite right: different religion.
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9 bikers reported dead, and 18 injured, after a biker gang meeting went seriously wrong yesterday in Waco. This is not my usual fare (I’ll class it as non sequitur), but it’s so violent and random – and potentially indicative of societal breakdown a la the late 60s – that I thought I’d post it.
Apparently, two heated rivals among the “1%er” outlaw motorcycle gangs – the Bandidos and the Cossacks – had been experiencing increasing tensions and violence over the past few months. The Bandidos, based in Texas and apparently Texas’ largest outlaw motorcycle gang, felt the Cossacks were invading their turf and refusing to pay dues to the older, established Bandidos. Whatever that means. So what is apparently a regular bi-monthly meeting of motorcycle gangs to…….discuss whatever it is they discuss…….turned into a free-for-all brawl with over 170 arrested and potentially facing murder charges. Over 170 have been charged with involvement in organized crime (seems difficult to prove?), while some will apparently face capital murder charges:
About 170 suspects arrested after a shootout between rival biker gangs and police Sunday at Waco’s Twin Peaks restaurant that left nine dead and 18 injured were ordered held in lieu of $1 million bonds Monday while investigators continued the painstaking process of gathering evidence at the crime scene.
By early afternoon about a third of the suspects had been booked into the McLennan County Jail.
All 170 will be processed into the jail, Sheriff Parnell McNamara said Monday, although some may later be transferred to other facilities.
Affidavits and arrest warrants totaled more than 500 pages, an official said.
At least some and technically all of those in custody could be charged with capital murder because of the number of victims, Waco police Sgt. W. Patrick Swanton said.
All of those killed and injured were bikers, police say
No officers or bystanders were hurt.
I saw a news clip that said there were dozens of bikers – along with regular patrons – in the restaurant when the fight broke out. It quickly degenerated from fists to knives and then guns, and subsequently spilled outside. Non-biker patrons and employees fled to the freezer to escape the gun fire. Once the fight spilled outside, Waco police, pre-positioned due to past problems and intelligence that this meeting could go bad, began to approach the brawl. The bikers then allegedly opened fire on police, leaving several vehicles bullet-ridden but striking no officers. The police then opened fire and apparently re-established order quickly. No idea how many of the killed and injured died as a result of biker violence, and how many were due to the police.
Twin Peaks is a seedy, Hooter-esque place In fact, though I’ve never been, the female staff at these restaurants apparently wear even less than the Hooter’s girls. Thus it is quite possible the derangement of faculties driven by exposure to scantily clad young women could have helped precipitate this brawl. I’m sure alcohol and meth played their role, too. Because nothing honors the Lord on the Sabbath like burning some crank and then setting out for an R-rated skin joint with violence in mind. So wrong, on so many levels.
Silly me, I knew there were real, criminal type motorcycle clubs still around, but I had no idea their membership numbered in the thousands in this state alone. And here I thought all the rather rotund dudes with silver ponytails I see driving around on Harley’s were just mid-life crisis types trying to re-live their glory years.
Such a sad scene. By some miracle, all the victims were apparently members of the gangs themselves. No police and no passersby were even injured, let alone killed. That speaks to at least some level of fire discipline, and it seems a high percentage of the members of these gangs are former military. The woman in the video below makes clear, however, that patrons had experienced intimidation from the Bandidos at this restaurant before (0:45 – 1:00):
The Twin Peaks chain has pulled the franchise for the restaurant that had been hosting regular biker days and other events for bikers in spite of increasing concerns from law enforcement. I would imagine the franchise holder is in for a mass of legal problems.
I pray for the souls of the deceased Eternal rest grant to them O’ Lord. May those who remain be converted. May this kind of madness cease. It seems a good number of those present were from the DFW area.
And, yes, Waco is a strange place. It’s been the center of a disproportionate number of bizarre acts of violence. I could tell a story or two of interaction with some Wacoites from my bad old days but I’ll skip for now.
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A well-known British Dominican apologist for perverse lifestyles has been promoted to a highly influential Vatican post as Consultor to the Pontifical Council for Justice and Peace. Fr. Timothy Radcliffe has formerly offered Mass for the out n’ proud group in the Soho district of London on numerous occasions. But he has gone far beyond that in his advocacy for this atrocious lifestyle. While this news may be old to many, it is of such great significance it bears repeating:
The Vatican Bollettino for today reports that Fr. Timothy Radcliffe OP, has been appointed by Pope Francis [this was a deliberate papal act] as Consultor to the Pontifical Council for Justice and Peace. The former Master General of the Dominican Order is a prominent supporter of the Kasperite proposal in favor of communion for the “divorced and remarried”. He has also spoken out in favor of the ordination of women, if not to the priesthood, then at least to the diaconate (see this.) However he is more famous for his frequent public interventions pushing for greater acceptance of homosexuality, having been a frequent celebrant of the infamous “gay Masses” in Soho, London…….
…….It is true that Radcliffe has “opposed” “gay marriage”, but his farcical “opposition” rests on grounds entirely contrary to those of the Church: Radcliffe opposes it because, in his words: “‘gay marriage’ ultimately, we believe, demeans gay people by forcing them to conform to the straight world.“[Right, they should be out there abusing themselves and others with abandon! Get back to the “glory days” of 10, 20, even more partners in a night like the San Fran bath houses of old] His support for civil “same sex unions” and his lavish praise of homosexual “love” are a matter of public record, and led to repeated attempts last year by good and devout Catholics to prevent him from talking at the Divine Mercy Conference in Ireland (see this and this) and in San Diego, California (see this report on the Wanderer), as well as in the Flame 2 Youth Conference this year in London (read this). All these attempts failed — and Radcliffe’s acceptability has just received a major upgrade with this latest appointment. A tremendous slap to the face of so many good Catholics who had opposed him out of fidelity to the faith…
A few choice quotes from Radcliffe, demonstrating his heterodoxy, via Church Militant news:
And in 2012, in the liberal U.K. paper The Tablet, he praised same-sex civil unions:
This is not to denigrate committed love of people of the same sex. This too should be cherished and supported, which is why church leaders are slowly coming to support same-sex civil unions. The God of love can be present in every true love.
In 2006, Radcliffe delivered a keynote speech in Los Angeles titled “The Church as Sign of Hope and Freedom,” and challenged Catholics to “stand with” homosexuals.
We must accompany them as they discern what this means, letting our images be stretched open. This means watching “Brokeback Mountain,” reading gay novels, living with our gay friends and listening with them as they listen to the Lord. … We are not a sign of God’s freedom until we can dare to belong to each other across every theological boundary. [It’s not only a question of theology, it’s a question of morality. Certainly we should reach out to them…… in order to convert them from their lives of sin! This man and his ilk, so wanting to be loved by the world, leave people mired in sins that will merit damnation. I have to wonder whether Fr. Radcliffe does not have a personal interest in this matter? Like so many other priests, he apparently refuses the concept of judgment or damnation……save for those who adhere to the Faith of the Father! This appointment is so emblematic of this papacy]
And in a 2005 Tablet article, Radcliffe strongly advocated for thepossibility of homosexual priests, in contradiction to Church practice forbidding homosexuals entry to the priesthood:
I have no doubt that God does call homosexuals to the priesthood, and they are among the most dedicated and impressive priests I have met. … And we may presume that God will continue to call both homosexuals and heterosexuals to the priesthood because the Church needs the gifts of both.
I would conclude with two profound hopes. That a way will be found to welcome divorced and remarried people back to communion. And, most important, that women will be given real authority and voice in the church. [The Pope] believes that the ordination of women to the ministerial priesthood is not possible, but decision-making in the church has become ever more closely linked to ordination in recent years. Can that bond be loosened? Let us hope that women may be ordained to the diaconate and so have a place in preaching at the Eucharist. [Because that has helped the Anglicans so much, right? I mean, there was a mass exodus going on but when the Anglicans started pretend-ordaining women, that just stopped it cold! Remember when that happened?! Remember how Anglicanism in England was hemorrhaging membership, then they started “ordaining” women, and the sect burst into full flower? Yeah…….neither do I]
So, another ancient leftist ideologue rehabilitated and given a high Vatican position. And liberation theology was “never condemned.” The entire career and papacy of Joseph Ratzinger is going down the memory hole. It just never happened! Reset back to 1978.
Because everyone remembers how awesome the 70s were!